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Engineer Ground DPS Build (as of Feb 2015)
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My skills and Doff are at my gal r build:
http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=galrdpstankpreplasmafix_0
Must have traits: Vicious, Soldier, Orbital Devastation, Adrenal Release, Berserker, Aggressive, Bombadier, penetrating rounds.
Interchangeable traits(traits that I use interchangeably): Acute Senses, Covert or Ironsides and Overcharging.
Ground must have traits : Lethality, Deadly Aim, Mental Acuity.
Interchangeable : Omega Weapon Proficiency, Armor Penetration.
Active Reputation, Concussive tachyon Emission, Defiance, Medical nanite Cloud.
Current Items:
UR Advanced Fleet Recoil Compensating Armor[crtd][hp][resall]x2 mk 14 or UR Shattering Harmonics Enviromental Suit [Ene]
UR Refractive Nanofiber Shield Mk 14
Kit :[Demo][Turret][CrtH]
Transphasic Bomb mk 12
Chroniton Mine barrier(spire)
Neutronic mortar mk 12 (reputation)
Beam Turret Mk 12 (romulan flamethrower turret)
Seeker Dron mk 13 rare
Devices: Gambling Device, Power Cell, Large Hypo, Shard of Possiblities
Weapon:
Secondary: mk 14 Hyper-compressed Cryo launcher mk 14
Primary(interchangeable) : VR Omega force autocarbine weapon mk 14, VR Counter command disruptor rifle mk 14, VR TR-116b rifle.
Felisean's Eng Build is here:
http://dps.shivtr.com/forum_threads/2036427
http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=galrdpstankpreplasmafix_0
Must have traits: Vicious, Soldier, Orbital Devastation, Adrenal Release, Berserker, Aggressive, Bombadier, penetrating rounds.
Interchangeable traits(traits that I use interchangeably): Acute Senses, Covert or Ironsides and Overcharging.
Ground must have traits : Lethality, Deadly Aim, Mental Acuity.
Interchangeable : Omega Weapon Proficiency, Armor Penetration.
Active Reputation, Concussive tachyon Emission, Defiance, Medical nanite Cloud.
Current Items:
UR Advanced Fleet Recoil Compensating Armor[crtd][hp][resall]x2 mk 14 or UR Shattering Harmonics Enviromental Suit [Ene]
UR Refractive Nanofiber Shield Mk 14
Kit :[Demo][Turret][CrtH]
Transphasic Bomb mk 12
Chroniton Mine barrier(spire)
Neutronic mortar mk 12 (reputation)
Beam Turret Mk 12 (romulan flamethrower turret)
Seeker Dron mk 13 rare
Devices: Gambling Device, Power Cell, Large Hypo, Shard of Possiblities
Weapon:
Secondary: mk 14 Hyper-compressed Cryo launcher mk 14
Primary(interchangeable) : VR Omega force autocarbine weapon mk 14, VR Counter command disruptor rifle mk 14, VR TR-116b rifle.
Felisean's Eng Build is here:
http://dps.shivtr.com/forum_threads/2036427
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DPS league ranking:
#2 at BHE 871 DPS
#6 at NTTE 1,298.9 DPS
No change in build nor upgrade.
You descibe my build almost to a T, although I have some minor changes that might boost you even more. Hit me up in-game so we can chat.
AS far as DPS league nonsense, it doesn't track every player all the time, so who knows.
Well, I am min maxer. All the parse of this toon is PuGged so technically I can go higher if I play with other min maxers due to speed of the run.
The toon is also current holder of NTTE speed run with 4 other players.
The point of the build is to share and help anyone is using Engineers. The point of the DPS post is so they know the potential of the build.
I have seen players in this forum claim they are better in stuff in DPS than the DPS league just like how they claim T6 is better than fleet patrol or scimitars in DPS.
If you claim that you have a better build in DPS using an Engineer toon, be sure you can prove you can back it up with a parse that can be confirmed by a third party like the DPS league.
One probhlem tho...
Got a any advice on Traiting a Ferengi?
LOL easy there, "DPS-guy"! I was only open to chatting in game in a friendly way - if the DPS thing is your deal then, congrats!
I have no problem in chatting or helping in game. But your first post in the thread is to boost me even more. The title of this thread is about DPS. So yeah by posting in this thread you should know this is about a DPS Eng ground build not RP Eng ground build.
I believe you dont have access to aggressive, soldier but have access to covert, Lucky
Vicious, Orbital Devastation, Adrenal Release, Berserker, Bombadier, Ironsides and Overcharging all can be bought at the exchange while penetrating rounds is a level 15 ground skill trait.
Looks brutal. I'll start working on something like this on my engi's as well. Is the reason that Engi's are winning BHE and Tac's are winning NTTE just a question of how much the individual queues favor AOE and distance in your opinion, or is there something else?
SCM - Hive (S) - [02:31] DMG(DPS) - @jarvisandalfred: 30.62M(204.66K) - Fed Sci
Tacs are overrated.
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Agressive
Accurate
Astrophysicist
Bombardier
Covert
Creative
Elusive
Lucky
Mental Discipline
Nanomolecular Architect
Peak Health
Resilient
Shield Harmonic Resonance
Stubborn
Sturdy
Sure Footed
Techie
Warp Theorist
Grace Under Fire
Map and circumstance. BHE is bomb and mine friendly. Bugs spawn in groups while tholians spawn less packed which would be more favorable to tacs ambush. I also parsed those numbers in a PuG. To test if eng is really weaker than tac in NTTE, we need Ryan or Felisean in an optimized eng build parse NTTE in a premade or a good group since I don't have frequent access to the same quality ground group as ryan and Felisean have.
Although theoretically in NTTE eng can reach 2k Dps, my pets have proc 800, mines 400, bomb 250, t5 delta 200, weapons 200, orbital beam 200 although in separate occasions.
What you have : aggressive, bombardier,
What you need to buy : adrenal release, berserker, orbital devastation, vicious, Ironsides(not necessary if you are In a good group but I recommended if you pug), overcharging
Fillers on the remaining: lucky, covert, penetrating rounds, shield harmonic resonance(if you don't have the ground r&d level 15 trait:penetrating rounds), sniper
LOL RP? Dude, don't be a tool, why would you assume RP?
Calm down, don't be so serious. Your build that you posted is kinda old news, to be honest - anyone that hits hard as an Engi has been running a build like yours since those fleet armors came out.
There is only one player that can out dps my eng build in BHE and my build is currently the top ENG at NTTE. So saying that everyone hits as hard as my eng is a fallacy.
All these claims that anyone can hit as hard as me reminds me of someone a month ago saying that he/she can outdps my 102k dps ISA parse. It turns out, that player only parses 10k dps. Claim is different from reality.
Like I said on my first response to you, be sure to back up with your claims with a third party like the DPS league.
"My imaginary Sci-Fi armor and weapons is better than YOUURRRSS!!!! Nanny nanny boo-boo."
Lol you're so defensive over that. No one tracks ground DPS because no one gives a sh|t. I'm glad you found a way to be "Lord of the Flies" but it's kinda like getting first in the Special Olympics, tbh.
Actually, in a sense, your min-maxing is a sort of RP...because few to no one else cares, except other min-maxers! Ha!
Great build, though.
Unfortunately, after Delta Grinding, I've been focusing almost only on my ground tac , who's made me proud anyway and been tampering a little with my engie one, while I sadly had to park away for now my sci one, because unfortunately I don't have time for him.
As soon as the trait bombardier came out, I did a couple of pvp tests with an engie who often runs ground stfs, La'da'dal@jeantiberiuskirk to check this new trait.
They were a couple of quick sessions, shot a few concussives, mortar hits and so on and I copied and checked the chat combat log.
From what I've seen , the trait bombardier didn't seem to boost kinetic damage by 10% bonus and by coincidence, that trait is quite cheap at the exchange ( quite cheaper than sniper for example).
However, as I said, I am more expert in tac stuff and it was a quick test so I might be wrong ... I just wanted to point this out to make sure whether this trait is WAI or not.
And, by the way, we might team up for a BHE sometime ;-)
Actually, on my TR, it did come out to about 10%. Sniper is one of those traits you might only use in certain maps. I keep it around as well.
Where Bombadier will shine is on the crits. So just keep that in mind.
We do track groud dps. there is a table for it just like ISA. Like I said anyone can claim, just like I can claim I can do 500k DPS on a NX01 just what you are like doing with your lousy excuses but is far from the truth. If there is someone imagining stuff it is you. Because all my parses is confirmed and you are just full of hot air.
So if you got nothing concrete to share as proven your several posts, please stop trolling this thread. This aint General discussion.
Bombadier does add to kinetic damage.
I'm not overly familiar with parsing ground, so what exactly is tracked as 'pets'? Is that the mortar, turret, and drones?
And given the aoe nature of most of that, I'm not positive that you can realize that theory (I'd love to be wrong on this, and my reasoning might be dead off). There's only so much dps to dps, and I'd assume that at some point your various room of doom mechanics are stealing each other's dps, at which point runspeed and time to setup the room of doom might make a pretty significant difference. I mean, this is just pure speculation, and what you've done is highly impressive, so what's your thought on that as the ground expert here?
SCM - Hive (S) - [02:31] DMG(DPS) - @jarvisandalfred: 30.62M(204.66K) - Fed Sci
Tacs are overrated.
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Build questions? Look here!
Pets are all your turrets, mortar, drones, shard shadows and Lt Van NPC. At the higher DPS level the NPC pet DPS isnt that large but is large for lower DPS. In my 871 run, Lt Van parse 60 DPS. 60 DPS is large if you are parsing only 100 DPS or lower.
Yes, if everyone is doing optimal DPS one will steal DPS from another. however, if you look at the BHE table, You see a difference in combat time. Beefys and Feliseans are 400 and 300 Secs respectively. and im around 800ish but at 500 secs+.
I would like to congratulate beefydegree for overtaking both me and Felisean just today in BHE.
So the current table stands as of today are all Eng Top 3.
1) beefydegree - 956
2) felisean - 912
3) paxdawn - 871
It's kind of frustrating when we clear up all of the mobs in the blink of an eye and then we have to wait for him like 20 secs or something.
Is there some kind of gekli mechanism going on there ?
gg, beefydegree.
I'll try and see how far I can push a tac in there :cool: ;-)
I studied couple threads here (sto forums) and there (reddit) and came up with this:
Nukara Shattering Harmonics Shield
Dyson Armor
TR-116B Sniper rifle and perhaps AMACO pulsewave
Undine kit with mines, plasma flamethrower, transphasic bomb, not sure with the others.
Can you suggest a good away team composition? Of course all constructive criticism on the whole build is appreciated.
P.S.: If this is off topic to this thread, than I'm sorry, just tell me and I'll move it to another thread.
2pc bonus of Shattering harmonics doesnt do that much for DPs to justify using the 2pc for my build. The Nukara Armor is used in NTTE. Absent of a need for Enviro suit I dont use any Shattering harmonics item.
The refractive 2pc bonus adds all to damage when damage by environmental which happens in BHE and NNTE. All damage means it adds to all your damage not just weapons, means pets, bombs, orbital beam, etc. You can use that or the the Undine 2pc to get crth bonus if you dont like the refractive 2pc.
I do not use AMACO pulsewave. I use TR sniper for DRSE. Tr Sniper if I am Puggin NTTE to avoid the Tachyon spamming trolls. If I am with a high performance ground group I use a different weapon for NTTE like the omega carbine or the Undine rep weapon if I am a support debuffer.
Team composition i use is usually 2 eng, 1 sci, 1 tac. I Give them lots of large hypos. Engs are mines, drones, mortar, turrets, the sci is a full healer and the tac is a team buffer. Regardless, you will be doing most of the DPS anyways so your away team would be more or less meatshields.