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Suppression Barrage III: gives 100% accuracy bonus to your opponent

riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
edited February 2015 in PvP Gameplay
Instead of debuffing -100% accuracy, it gives your opponent uber accuracy. If you suppress someone using surgical, guaranteed overflow that's likely going to crit more than ever.

Check "bonus accuracy".

when hit: http://i.imgur.com/jZMJuLh.jpg

when not hit: http://i.imgur.com/xaAxtSw.jpg


what the hell seriously. Who made this?
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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited February 2015
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  • dave18193dave18193 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I dont know what shocks me more. That a mistake like this could go live, or that you were able to find enough people to start a pvp match. The queues are so barren these days.

    Hope they fix this soon. Suppression barrage is about the only reason to even think of running a command boff power atm (maybe overwhelm emitters too, but it would be a lot nicer if buffed by flow caps).

    I was thinking of getting a presidio for its awesome excelsior/prometheus offspring look but I reckon I'll hold off till this is fixed and the power tuning (read: nerfing of intel, buff to command) is done.

    I just wish command boff stuff sucked a little less for pvp. Even if supression barrage 3 worked right, I just dont see it beating out the intel stuff, especially OSS, SS and Ionic Turb.

    Thanks for the warning and info though riccardo.
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    dave18193 wrote: »
    I dont know what shocks me more. That a mistake like this could go live, or that you were able to find enough people to start a pvp match. The queues are so barren these days.

    Hope they fix this soon. Suppression barrage is about the only reason to even think of running a command boff power atm (maybe overwhelm emitters too, but it would be a lot nicer if buffed by flow caps).

    I was thinking of getting a presidio for its awesome excelsior/prometheus offspring look but I reckon I'll hold off till this is fixed and the power tuning (read: nerfing of intel, buff to command) is done.

    I just wish command boff stuff sucked a little less for pvp. Even if supression barrage 3 worked right, I just dont see it beating out the intel stuff, especially OSS, SS and Ionic Turb.

    Thanks for the warning and info though riccardo.

    dunno what to say... except that you summarized exactly my thoughts. GG on that.
  • gabrielinwestmingabrielinwestmin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I noticed that exact same thing myself.. was quite annoyed with that myself
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  • fonz71fonz71 Member Posts: 346 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    to be sure it's not just a tool tip error, could you try and have somebody fire back with a dps log to track misses?

    i'm not surprised this is bugged, but i wouldn't be surprised if it's just a tool tip error either.
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    fonz71 wrote: »
    to be sure it's not just a tool tip error, could you try and have somebody fire back with a dps log to track misses?

    i'm not surprised this is bugged, but i wouldn't be surprised if it's just a tool tip error either.

    I'd love to do that, so if you or someone else wants to do that, I'd be up for it.

    It may even be a tooltip error, as a friend of mine told me he actually missed a lot of times while hit by suppression, but I can't ignore the tooltip indeed.
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Did the test with a parser. Shocking result.

    Turns out the tooltip on my ship about Suppression says -100% accuracy.

    the accuracy tooltip on my enemy raises by the same amount.

    Parsing shows that there is nor buff, nor debuff of accuracy for the enemy. My testing partner did 62% acc without buffs, and 64% acc while under suppression. :|

    updated bug thread accordingly to include pics of it.
  • sharxtremesharxtreme Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    riccardo171 wrote: »
    Did the test with a parser. Shocking result.

    Turns out the tooltip on my ship about Suppression says -100% accuracy.

    the accuracy tooltip on my enemy raises by the same amount.

    Parsing shows that there is nor buff, nor debuff of accuracy for the enemy. My testing partner did 62% acc without buffs, and 64% acc while under suppression. :|

    updated bug thread accordingly to include pics of it.

    that is a small difference and doesn't show anything.
    ACC effect is tied to opponents defense value(in this case yours) and attackers Weapon mods as well.
    Your defense should be low while standing(were you standing still?) and he shouldn't miss a shot(depending on the weapon) only thing that would suppression barrage show in this case is lowering of ACC overflow(higher crit hits) and only if he doesn't use FAW or Torp spread which dont benefit from it anyway since they have 100% acc.

    From 2 hrs of shooting people for armor pen trait i had only 3 misses, all 3 with Bio HY.

    That said, that ability is broken by many reports i hear in game.
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    sharxtreme wrote: »
    that is a small difference and doesn't show anything.
    ACC effect is tied to opponents defense value(in this case yours) and attackers Weapon mods as well.
    Your defense should be low while standing(were you standing still?) and he shouldn't miss a shot(depending on the weapon) only thing that would suppression barrage show in this case is lowering of ACC overflow(higher crit hits) and only if he doesn't use FAW or Torp spread which dont benefit from it anyway since they have 100% acc.

    From 2 hrs of shooting people for armor pen trait i had only 3 misses, all 3 with Bio HY.

    That said, that ability is broken by many reports i hear in game.

    both tests were made under the same scenarios, I was costantly going at maximum impulse speed during combat.

    I did the suppression barrage test for five times, same result.
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    -100% Accuracy...

    Does that have diminishing returns? Or are you literally unable to hit anything (beyond autohit abilities like Torp Spread)?
  • nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    /summon borticus, pls look at this

    my god... lol, this looks like the armor pen problem, just a "whooops, dev error" :rolleyes:
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nandospc wrote: »
    /summon borticus, pls look at this

    my god... lol, this looks like the armor pen problem, just a "whooops, dev error" :rolleyes:

    ric posted this 3 times... but bort responded to one of the threads.
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    No need to get pushy. Most of us weren't awake when you posted this thread. ;)

    If it's as easy a fix as it seems, shouldn't take long to repair. But, we'll see. Never know what you might find once you start digging around under the hood.
  • nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    ric posted this 3 times... but bort responded to one of the threads.

    Ah ok, perfect, missed that thread :)
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    ric posted this 3 times... but bort responded to one of the threads.
    nandospc wrote: »
    Ah ok, perfect, missed that thread :)

    I know how to be the bug report cop when I want to. :D

    lol
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Ok gentlemen I just have to know did you post this in the bug forum? You know you don't come here theytreat they treat this part of the fourm as a radioactive site....put it the bug fourm so i can support the thread please if you have already put a link in here so i can go there
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  • sharxtremesharxtreme Member Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    wildweasal wrote: »
    Ok gentlemen I just have to know did you post this in the bug forum? You know you don't come here theytreat they treat this part of the fourm as a radioactive site....put it the bug fourm so i can support the thread please if you have already put a link in here so i can go there
    you are wrong there, Borticus posted here like 10 times in last week.
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  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    wildweasal wrote: »
    Ok gentlemen I just have to know did you post this in the bug forum? You know you don't come here theytreat they treat this part of the fourm as a radioactive site....put it the bug fourm so i can support the thread please if you have already put a link in here so i can go there

    Yes I did. http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1382101
  • discloneddiscloned Member Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    hilarious - yes, it certainly is
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    QA is overrated!!!
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    edited February 2015
    fonz71 wrote: »
    to be sure it's not just a tool tip error, could you try and have somebody fire back with a dps log to track misses?

    i'm not surprised this is bugged, but i wouldn't be surprised if it's just a tool tip error either.

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  • tfomegatfomega Member Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    dave18193 wrote: »
    I dont know what shocks me more. That a mistake like this could go live, or that you were able to find enough people to start a pvp match. The queues are so barren these days.

    What I really hope it means is that cryptic is feeling the pain of all the pvpers giving up on them and making their pockets feel very light from things no longer being tested, and evaluated. I wonder how many more bugs cryptic will introduce without the pvpers constantly testing. I bet this product is about to get much worse LOL
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