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medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
I could have sworn I saw a thread about this recently but couldn't find it in a search...

I was skimming the description on the Dominion Space Set tonight, and noticed something changed...

It is still a 2 piece set, but there is a description showing it to be a 3 piece set, describing a new piece called the Dominion Defense Screen!

New Jem'Hadar stuff incoming w00t!
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    So...thinking they might get around to this then: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Jem%27Hadar_Battleship :eh?

    Promo ship sort of thing? Like they did with the Sheshar to 3pc the Elachi, eh? Offering a Command Promo to go with the Intel Promo thing they did, yeah?

    Speculation runs...wild...heh.
  • lindalefflindaleff Member Posts: 3,734 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I would love to have it, either way.
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  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I'm one of the people who was asking for the Jem Hadar Battleship.

    I'm not 100% sure that I'll drop real money on it if it's some sort of horrible Command Ship hybrid monster.
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  • rsoblivionrsoblivion Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Oh fark me that's a Dominion ship I could get behind. I like the JHEC, but don't have it, unfortunately. A Battlecruiser fits their current ship releases too.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I could certainly see the [currently unavailable] Dominion Battlecruiser being the perfect option for a Dominion Command ship, but then by comparison, I feel for anyone who owns the Dominion Attack Ship, Dreadnought or Escort.

    +1 for the ship (if it's coming)
    -1 for implementation (TRIBBLE over other alien ships)
    /0 for the fact I wont be using it
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The Attack Ship doesn't have a console so Cryptic could be adding consoles to C-Store ships and Lockbox ships that don't have a console like the Atrox. Of course, a Jem'Hadar Command ship makes sense too.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    starkaos wrote: »
    The Attack Ship doesn't have a console so Cryptic could be adding consoles to C-Store ships and Lockbox ships that don't have a console like the Atrox. Of course, a Jem'Hadar Command ship makes sense too.
    Once released, it is extremely rare that Cryptic even touch ships that have been released; evidence of this can be seen all around with the many mesh and texture errors, axis errors and the like. They already have your money. :P

    It's quite likely this is a new ship; a command-focused Battlecruiser for the Dominion. It makes sense considering all of their latest releases have been T6 focused.
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  • rgzarcherrgzarcher Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Wait, didn't they say that they were looking to revamp the Dominion arc? Would it be possible that they could add a Dominion Warp Core as a mission reward?

    That would make a very unique and one of a kind set I think, two consoles and a warp core. We DID just get the Breen Warp Core for the Winter Event a month ago after all.

    I've been saying for awhile that they need to go back to the older sets and update them, give them new parts.

    Jem'Hadar, Assimilated, MACO, KHG, Adapted, Omega, Nukara, Romulan, Reman, these sets all need to have Warp Cores.

    Of course I think all the Rep sets also need secondary deflectors. Assimilated set with Warp Core and Secondary Deflector should give players the Borg Shield Nullifyer ;)
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  • reynoldsxdreynoldsxd Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    well if the ship trait makes it worth it.. might pick it up just to buff my jcarrier....
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    rgzarcher wrote: »
    I've been saying for awhile that they need to go back to the older sets and update them, give them new parts.

    Jem'Hadar, Assimilated, MACO, KHG, Adapted, Omega, Nukara, Romulan, Reman, these sets all need to have Warp Cores.

    Of course I think all the Rep sets also need secondary deflectors. Assimilated set with Warp Core and Secondary Deflector should give players the Borg Shield Nullifyer
    I think they need to take a good look at all their sets, and to revamp the lot.

    Some Reputation Sets could be done without; the MACO and Adapted MACO for example (and the KDF counterparts), IIRC there's not a whole lot of difference between them. Same applies to the Romulan and Reman Sets. I'd rather they combine them (thus instead of four sets, we'd have two where they're concerned).

    All sets should have unique visuals (I'm looking at the Solane and Kobali sets here, and they can fix the Dyson Impulse traits whilst they're at it). To add both a warp core and secondary deflector though? I don't think that's needed, especially since it's only Science Ships that have a secondary deflector (thus all non-science ships wouldn't get the full set). I will agree on warp/sing cores, but not secondary deflectors.
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  • rgzarcherrgzarcher Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    flash525 wrote: »
    I think they need to take a good look at all their sets, and to revamp the lot.

    Some Reputation Sets could be done without; the MACO and Adapted MACO for example (and the KDF counterparts), IIRC there's not a whole lot of difference between them. Same applies to the Romulan and Reman Sets. I'd rather they combine them (thus instead of four sets, we'd have two where they're concerned).

    All sets should have unique visuals (I'm looking at the Solane and Kobali sets here, and they can fix the Dyson Impulse traits whilst they're at it). To add both a warp core and secondary deflector though? I don't think that's needed, especially since it's only Science Ships that have a secondary deflector (thus all non-science ships wouldn't get the full set). I will agree on warp/sing cores, but not secondary deflectors.

    MACO and Adapted KHG sets are actually important for those who cant (or wont) spend the outrageous price to get Plasmonic Leech as they offer a similar effect but defensively. Adapted MACO and KHG are both key sets for anyone running torp boat builds.

    So I don't know why you think they serve no purpose, and MACO/Adapted MACO are about as different as you can get for two sets. Same for the Klingon counterparts the KHG and AKHG sets. One is geared towards energy weapon builds while the other is projectile.

    Romulan and Reman sets are also very different. Reman set is geared more towards stealth and Romulan set more towards offense. I love how you can blend parts and pieces from the sets now to get a common set bonus, I think that was a very good move on cryptics part.

    The secondary Deflectors only being on Sci ships is the entire POINT of this idea though. It would give all Science ships a unique power and set bonus that Tac-scorts couldn't touch.

    Tac ships have overwhelming firepower. Cruisers have Cruiser commands. Science ships have a secondary deflector. This would take that secondary delector slot and actually make it worth wild, it would give people a reason to consider a sci ship with only six weapon slots over a Tac ship, providing them with unique abilities or skills that Escorts and Cruisers would NEVER have access to.
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited February 2015
    Guess I just figured out what I've been saving ZEN for...
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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    MACO is fed only. KHG is kdf only. The POINT of having adapted maco is to give that set and its unique capabilities to the KDF. This is a good thing.

    The point of adapted KHG is to give the unique kdf set to the feds. This is a good thing.

    The same goes for the ground sets.


    There was a long long time (many years) in this game when neither existed. They were much requested. These are good things. Don't complain that they're similar -- because that's the freaking POINT. Look at the factionality of them before you complain.


    EDIT: P.S. I disagree that all sets need warp cores. In fact, I'd much rather have more unique 1-off cores or cores that are part of a console set (like the Obelisk core). If you add cores to a 3pc set you make it a 4pc set and you lock the player into user larger sets to get the same bonuses, because more often than not they TRIBBLE over the set bonuses and move them up to 3pc or 4pc levels. The game needs MORE customizability, not less. 4pc sets are bad. 4pc console sets are awful (see the upcoming kobali console set, for example). Big "no" to retrofitting warp cores to existing 3pc sets.
  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,539 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I would like to see the Jem'Hadar Battleship added to the game! It will more than likely come in a lock box, which means I won't bother with it, but I do like the Jem'Hadar ships. :cool: I wish we had a Dominion faction to play. :(
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited February 2015
    There's an R&D weekend in March... I bet this new Jemmy Ship gets released inside that, as a super promo. One of those promos that lasts a few weeks, ending with the R&D weekend.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    rgzarcher wrote: »
    So I don't know why you think they serve no purpose, and MACO/Adapted MACO are about as different as you can get for two sets. Same for the Klingon counterparts the KHG and AKHG sets. One is geared towards energy weapon builds while the other is projectile.
    I confused myself when looking at them through the STOwiki, had the MACO and Honour Guard as one, and then the Adapted MACO and Adapted Honour Guard as the other, rather than the faction splits. My mistake.
    rgzarcher wrote: »
    The secondary Deflectors only being on Sci ships is the entire POINT of this idea though. It would give all Science ships a unique power and set bonus that Tac-scorts couldn't touch.
    The basis for argument above (with the MACO/Honour Guard sets) is so that everyone gets to play with all the toys. Now you're suggesting that Science should get more toys than TAC/ENG?
    rgzarcher wrote: »
    Tac ships have overwhelming firepower. Cruisers have Cruiser commands. Science ships have a secondary deflector.
    I can assure you, a good Cruiser should be able to do more damage than an Escort, thus the claim that TAC ships have firepower isn't completely true.

    In an ideal world, all three ship types would have a distinct bonus. Science Ships would have their Secondary Deflector (which would be a fixed SCI console slot), Cruisers could/should have a fixed ENG console slot/equivalent, and TAC ships would also have something suited to them. The trick would be having each of them uniquely suitable, all whilst not overshadowing each other. The obvious fear here is that TAC ships would become overpowered.
    MACO is fed only. KHG is kdf only. The POINT of having adapted maco is to give that set and its unique capabilities to the KDF. This is a good thing.

    The point of adapted KHG is to give the unique kdf set to the feds. This is a good thing.
    I'm in disagreement here simply because the sets are now generic. They should have been left as they were. One is offense (for KDF) the other is defense (for the FED). It's the same twisted logic you've got for the Avenger Class and the Mogh; FED players should have never been given a Battlecruiser. On this occasion, I'm going to be bias on behalf of the KDF, they had something unique, and then Cryptic came along and destroyed that.
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2015
    They have been sneaking text updates into this and other stuff. I guess they don't have to use [Redacted] anymore.
  • rgzarcherrgzarcher Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    lucho80 wrote: »
    They have been sneaking text updates into this and other stuff. I guess they don't have to use [Redacted] anymore.

    [Redacted] is for when people catch what they are doing and a gimic that's very effective for drawing attention to something coming out.

    Sort of like Dead Space 2 with their 'Your mother doesn't want you playing this video game' commercial campaign. Telling people something is bad, secret or a mystery makes them think about it more and want it more than they would otherwise.

    I believe the phrase is 'Don't think about the pink elephant' lol
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  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    A Domionion Battle Cruiser does make a lot of sense. They are revamping the Cardassaian Arc next. And the will probably being putting out a new Dominion Lockbox then as well.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    A Domionion Battle Cruiser does make a lot of sense. They are revamping the Cardassaian Arc next. And the will probably being putting out a new Dominion Lockbox then as well.
    I doubt they'll release a new Dominion Lock Box, it'll likely fall under a different title. Maybe Dominion War Command Lock Box? That way they can put the Battlecruiser as the Lock Box reward, and the Keldon as the Lobi reward.
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  • rgzarcherrgzarcher Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    flash525 wrote: »
    I doubt they'll release a new Dominion Lock Box, it'll likely fall under a different title. Maybe Dominion War Command Lock Box? That way they can put the Battlecruiser as the Lock Box reward, and the Keldon as the Lobi reward.

    'Gamma Alliance Lock Box'?
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    And a merry freaking Christmas to you too, Ebenezer.
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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    How about a Pah-wraith lock box? We hard the Quantum Shard, they had a Galor Class, but the Alpha Quadrant is so neglected...
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    R&D or Duty Officer Promo sounds more likely.
    DOFF Promo most likely I think, since the Gamma Quadrant DOFFs also contains Gamma Quadrant Commodities.
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  • captiancoppscaptiancopps Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I wonder if anyone was able to grab a description on the ability if it was listed.
  • khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    is this on tribble
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    jem'hadar Ships. :cool: I Wish We Had A Dominion Faction To Play. :(

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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    wildweasal wrote: »
    Soon My Young Apprentice ......you Will Be Getting Cardassian Or A Dominion Faction... Patience Young One Patience
    You're optimistic..
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  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    There is no description for this new ability yet because the piece itself is not that I am aware of publicly available.

    I found this description on Holodeck when I was hovering over the set pieces of the Dominion Space Set one night
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited February 2015
    Given that we're likely heading into a Krenim-centric story in March/April...

    I don't buy this ship coming in a second Dominion-themed lock box. It'll likely be in a DOFF pack or R&D pack promo.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,884 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    mhall85 wrote: »
    Given that we're likely heading into a Krenim-centric story in March/April...

    I don't buy this ship coming in a second Dominion-themed lock box. It'll likely be in a DOFF pack or R&D pack promo.

    I gotta agree, I doubt they'll release a second Dominion Lock Box...probably going to be another promo ship.

    There was that teaser a while back about the Borg using the Wormhole...I imagine it my coincide with that.
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