All Hands On Deck SHIP TRAIT overperforming

illcadia

The newly released All Hands On Deck ship trait, from the command cruiser pack is affecting science captain abilities of all kinds per design, and so reduces cooldowns sufficiently that a science captain can reliably activate an ability like sensor scan at the global cooldown, which massively skews how much damage and disable output that player can bring to a mission. The result is *incredibly* overpowered, given how offensively valuable certain science captain abilities, like sensor scan, can be.

This really needs a balance pass.

primar13

Sounds Correct, in a way.

From the Dev Blog and tooltips, http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9066823-tier-6-command-ships-federation

All Hands on Deck

After achieving level 5 in the Presidio, Ty’Gokor or Vastam Class Command ship’s starship mastery, you will unlock the All Hands on Deck starship trait. While this trait is slotted, activating a Tactical or Command Bridge Officer ability will reduce the recharge time of Science Bridge Officer and Captain abilities. This may only occur once every few seconds.

jarvisandalfred

illcadia wrote: »

The newly released All Hands On Deck ship trait, from the command cruiser pack is affecting science captain abilities of all kinds per design, and so reduces cooldowns sufficiently that a science captain can reliably activate an ability like sensor scan at the global cooldown, which massively skews how much damage and disable output that player can bring to a mission. The result is *incredibly* overpowered, given how offensively valuable certain science captain abilities, like sensor scan, can be.

This really needs a balance pass.

It's affecting all captain abilities, which is as intended, according to the trait text. It's rather overpowered, especially since you can get a 63 second TI, which a good pilot can make effectively permanent, not to mention 45 second APA and the like.

darramouss1

How much of a reduction is it giving to the sci and captain abilities?

felisean

10% to sci BOFF abilities and
5% reduction to all CAPTAIN abilities (like apa, gdf, tf, sensor scan, rotate shield frequenzy) every 5 seconds when you use a tac boff or operation boff ability. lockout timer have a debuff icon

spaceeagle20

So, let me get this straight…
APA is 90 sec… 5% is 4,5 sec so if you activate at least 1 tac or operation ability every 5 sec in the following 45 sec, you have APA reduced by 40,5 sec , almost at global cooldown ?
What about the subnuke ?
10 % for sci abilities? Brace yourselves , sciscorts incoming :P

lebtron

Devs said once they are not happy about a2b. Now they introduced another a2b for tac captains, just without downsides and with additional a few buffs... Hopefully they wait nerfing the trait until enough players bought the ship...

reginamala78

Wait reduces captain abilities? Wow thats just ridiculous. APA at its global, oh thats EXACTLY what this game needs. :rolleyes:

internetonsetadd

AHOD seems like a fairly obvious honeypot for the Command pack. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets nerfed in a month or two.

somebob

They didn't nerf Reciprocity. They won't nerf this.

sarcasmdetector

reginamala78 wrote: »

Wait reduces captain abilities? Wow thats just ridiculous. APA at its global, oh thats EXACTLY what this game needs. :rolleyes:

captain abilities don't have a global.

baelogventure

Working as intended, take your witch hunt elsewhere.

lucho80

The cooldown stacking game.

Sci abilities:
1) Bio-Neural Gel = 7%
2) Fleet [SciCdr] = 10%
3) This trait = 10% per activation of tactical or command abilities.

Lol, I'm starting to think science cooldown reduction doffs might be a bit obsolete under certain circumstances.

Welcome to the 15 year olds wacky build ideas that Geko hates game.

Every time they add something to the game, the first thing I think is how to take it to extremes. The devs go backwards, add first, regret it later.

reginamala78

lucho80 wrote: »

Every time they add something to the game, the first thing I think is how to take it to extremes. The devs go backwards, add first, regret it later.

You're assuming they regret it. How many people are buying that ugly ship for that trait alone?

fatman592

It's working exactly as the description says, so I'm inclined to think no nerfs will be coming.

My Dauntless has been nicely improved by this trait. Very fun, bravo devs.

baelogventure

lucho80 wrote: »

The cooldown stacking game.

Sci abilities:
1) Bio-Neural Gel = 7%
2) Fleet [SciCdr] = 10%
3) This trait = 10% per activation of tactical or command abilities.

Lol, I'm starting to think science cooldown reduction doffs might be a bit obsolete under certain circumstances.

Welcome to the 15 year olds wacky build ideas that Geko hates game.

Every time they add something to the game, the first thing I think is how to take it to extremes. The devs go backwards, add first, regret it later.

Don't forget the 5% from using 2pc of the MACO set.

And the 10.5% (on BOff shield and hull heals) you can get from the Kobali Engines.

lucho80

baelogventure wrote: »

Don't forget the 5% from using 2pc of the MACO set.

And the 10.5% (on BOff shield and hull heals) you can get from the Kobali Engines.

Lol, HE and ST on global all the time.

chillee

lucho80 wrote: »

The cooldown stacking game.

Sci abilities:
1) Bio-Neural Gel = 7%
2) Fleet [SciCdr] = 10%
3) This trait = 10% per activation of tactical or command abilities.

Lol, I'm starting to think science cooldown reduction doffs might be a bit obsolete under certain circumstances.

Welcome to the 15 year olds wacky build ideas that Geko hates game.

Every time they add something to the game, the first thing I think is how to take it to extremes. The devs go backwards, add first, regret it later.

Eh? I plead ignorance... what is the Fleet [SciCdr] sci ability?

lucho80

chillee wrote: »

Eh? I plead ignorance... what is the Fleet [SciCdr] sci ability?

The elite fleet deflectors which I personally hate with a passion. A 10% science cooldown in exchange for the crappiest stats ever on a deflector. Complained a lot about them when released. They're still garbage IMO unless you care more about the cooldown reduction than the crappy stats.

jarvisandalfred

chillee wrote: »

Eh? I plead ignorance... what is the Fleet [SciCdr] sci ability?

[SciCdr] is a UR mod on some deflectors, including Fleet ones.

lucho80

jarvisandalfred wrote: »

[SciCdr] is a UR mod on some deflectors, including Fleet ones.

I don't know what the heck they did, and they probably screwed up the mod which is why some people say it doesn't work, but on the elite deflectors they used to cool down all science abilities. The new one just cools down a set of them for some reason. Again, they might have screwed up the mod when they messed with it for the R&D stuff.

jarvisandalfred

lucho80 wrote: »

I don't know what the heck they did, and they probably screwed up the mod which is why some people say it doesn't work, but on the elite deflectors they used to cool down all science abilities. The new one just cools down a set of them for some reason. Again, they might have screwed up the mod when they messed with it for the R&D stuff.

The one granted via RnD doesn't cooldown everything. It's not a full SciCdr, and it's name isn't the same. It's description even tells you 'offensive abilities' or some such. SciCdr, the full mod, to my knowledge only appears on the Delta Deflector at UR and Fleet Fermion and Axion Deflectors.

warmaker001b

We are in an era where we are A2B'ing without doing A2B and all the drawbacks/vulnerabilities of A2B.

The only thing left to actually seal this deal is a trait that reduces ENG BOFF ability CDs.

jellico1

lebtron wrote: »

Devs said once they are not happy about a2b. Now they introduced another a2b for tac captains, just without downsides and with additional a few buffs... Hopefully they wait nerfing the trait until enough players bought the ship...

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Bingo

That's how they roll

Expect no Fix for at least a few months..gotta get those sales first!

I see someone else has detected the pattern as well

blessedladyboy

This is its intention I doubt they will nerf the traits.

They have been trying to fix the need for a2b and all these recent traits are it.

If they had nerfed a2b in its heyday everyone would of gone crazy. They have left it as is and now there's a better alternative.

At least there's more diversity now, especially if you fly cruisers.

lasonio

I'm getting it to put it on an escort. more survivabilty with the once over of tactical skills, and it's passive. You can't beat it with a stick.

My phantom thanks you cryptic, from the bottom of it's oddly shaped flat heart.

And yeah, i don't expect a nerf. It is working as it is written without mixing, fast talking, tongue in cheek euphemism. As it says it will do, it is doing. Guess all that can be said is

"Don;t hate." :cool:

wazzagiow

isn't it only overpowered if you don't have access to it? so it's p2w and lets face it them command ships need a selling point, the mastery trait being all that has going for it