Seems like Im going to miss another event, grinding reward.
Cryptic, whats up with you, really? Why do you find the insane grinding model right? I already lost the Breen event ships, because Im a casual, I come back home late, tired and dont play everyday. When Im here I like to have fun. All your event grinding reputations are extremly boring and extremly time consuming!
I dont feel like doing it everytime I log and waste half my available time doing stupid missions on all my characters just then see my event project raise miserable 4%, do you the meaning of "discouragement"? You should learn it, after losing two events rewards in a row (which I really wanted) I dont even feel encouraged to play anymore. Good Job Cryptic, working as intended! Casuals go away, Hardcores, stay, this has been your game core model after all.
Apparently their metrics suggest that there are more people that care about the "prestige" of having something others don't, that they had to "work" to get, than not.
I love my Risian Corvette. I wouldn't care if they changed it to running just one mission to get it. (Which they almost did with the alt friendly discount.)
"This is my starship. There are many like it, but this one is mine."
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In some ways the scanning is better than party patrol.
You don't have to put up with the idiots who cant spot a runner so spam all the mini Q's for one thing.
Downside is it is still buggy. Game starting is 3, 2, you scored 0 points (I chuckled when the game was being demo'd on twitch and it did this glitch half way through) Some zones still don't work, defera is a prime example.
Upside is that if you have a character around level 30 then you can make use of transwarps and replays to jump about and avoid a lot of the travel time.
Cynical response is that it's aimed at getting people to buy keys to open boxes and use the lobi to buy the random token amount, this should be a fixed number not a random x-y. And at the same time get people used to buying keys for boxes and sucking them into the whole gamble box mentality.
Time-consuming ? The ice race took like 2 minutes..... And there are always more days than you need to get the ships.
Im with this guy.
The winter event took like 5 min total and that included being sent back to the guy once for fail to start bug and the zone loading screen. Boring, yes. Time eating? Not really. Doing it 3 times for all 3 ships means 15 min, yes, if you did that. You only really "need" the carrier and the pet for it, so 10 / day is more reasonable, the other ship being outdated and not worth grinding for.
The current event is more forgiving but more time eating. You just do the featured episode ONCE and you get 400 / 1000. 600 to go, 40/day. 15 days ... and the event is a long, long running one so I think you could do it every other day and STILL get it done. It does stink that you have to transwarp at least once, if not twice, to get it done, and it can take as long as 15 min if it gives you a "bad" set of places to visit. My best so far was ganalda, drozna, and rua penthe, took just a few min to do that set. Worst was like ds9, drozna, and somewhere else that I have forgotten. Remember that some quests can xwarp you for free.... for example the "test of mettle" quest will take you back to qonos at no cost.
then there is the "why bother" question.
The breen ship ... is a half decent science carrier, good for the odd player with a science heavy build, with a trait for carrier drivers. If you are not either a carrier driver or a science heavy player, you may not need or want the thing.
The 5 year ship is an engineer heavy tank. If you do not play that style .... you may not need or want it. And its hard to imagine a casual (casual players don't have a lot of alts...) that needs both of these ships for their character(s). I have zero use for the 5-year ship. I will earn it, but to be honest I am more excited about doing the daily mission to earn an upgrade item token than I am about the ship, and the main reason I do the thing daily is to get my upgrades, not for the ship...
In some ways the scanning is better than party patrol.
Upside is that if you have a character around level 30 then you can make use of transwarps and replays to jump about and avoid a lot of the travel time.
I don't even find travel to be an issue (unless your romulan)
bajor, ds9, k7, drozana, sol, vulcan, andoria, SB39, defera are all within 3 sectors of eachother and you get a free transwarp to esd/qonos anyway
Really? How long do you take to grind and refine 8000 dil a day on 3 characters? How long it takes to set duty officers and R&D assignments for all of them? Talk to your fleet friends and buy/sell things on the Exchange? Then off you go, flying around to do reputation grinding.. tought I was meant to have fun, queue for matches with friends, etc..
Belive me, 5 minutes is a considerable time when you only have a hour (when you can even log) to spare, if all I do is 'work' when I log I would rather not even bother anymore. I already have plenty of that IRL.
The games you have to play for these rewards...Winter Wonderland, Risa and now this one are monotonous, deciduous and just plain boring. I just open lock boxes with the EC I've earned and use that option...although I don't know why I bother, when ships haven't been good since four updates ago at least.
Seems like Im going to miss another event, grinding reward.
Cryptic, whats up with you, really? Why do you find the insane grinding model right? I already lost the Breen event ships, because Im a casual, I come back home late, tired and dont play everyday. When Im here I like to have fun. All your event grinding reputations are extremly boring and extremly time consuming!
I dont feel like doing it everytime I log and waste half my available time doing stupid missions on all my characters just then see my event project raise miserable 4%, do you the meaning of "discouragement"? You should learn it, after losing two events rewards in a row (which I really wanted) I dont even feel encouraged to play anymore. Good Job Cryptic, working as intended! Casuals go away, Hardcores, stay, this has been your game core model after all.
Just so you know, "grinding" is not the same for everyone in the game. If you don't want to do it, that's fine.
Also, you just need to do the daily events on one character (to get to 1000 Qmendations) and then do it once on all other characters (to get 40 Qmendations) for the ship. Also, taking 5 minutes (on average) out of your day to do something simple isn't exactly time consuming.
then there is the "why bother" question.
The breen ship ... is a half decent science carrier, good for the odd player with a science heavy build, with a trait for carrier drivers. If you are not either a carrier driver or a science heavy player, you may not need or want the thing.
I have my own reasons to want the Breen ship, one of my toons is a Science support carrier, built exclusively for group support on a 2 hangar bay ship, so yeah, the ship trait would have been amazing to me?
So if you don't want to 'work' don't. It sounds like you 'work' an awful lot at other things in the game. It's no one's fault but your own if decide that grinding dilithium is the most important thing in the world. Maybe you should take a break and come back when you think of it as playing again. I've done that a few times. Always come back and have a blast with all the new stuff added to the game, even the sucky stuff.
I play the daily, five minutes is about the most I spend on it. I spend longer updating my ignore list at ESD each morning. Queueing up R&D for 7 characters takes about the same amount of time. Running through the Exchange, maybe 10 minutes if I'm putting up some doffs for sale and looking for lowball stuff. Chatting with fleetmates (if they are on) can be done while doing other stuff. So if you 'only' have an hour I would say doing all you do and the daily probably would account for maybe 30 minutes. Really not seeing what your problem is.
Really? How long do you take to grind and refine 8000 dil a day on 3 characters? How long it takes to set duty officers and R&D assignments for all of them? Talk to your fleet friends and buy/sell things on the Exchange? Then off you go, flying around to do reputation grinding.. tought I was meant to have fun, queue for matches with friends, etc..
Belive me, 5 minutes is a considerable time when you only have a hour (when you can even log) to spare, if all I do is 'work' when I log I would rather not even bother anymore. I already have plenty of that IRL.
if you don't think the ship is worth it don't do it....if you think it is worth it and you really have that much of a time crunch you could always cut the "rep grind" for a few weeks....unlike these limited events the reputation stuff will still be there when your done
Some zones still don't work, defera is a prime example.
Deferra (ground) works just fine. Gotten multi toons credit doing scans there... Earth Space however is still borked. Got it last night and no credit for scanning in space.... had to use the work around and hunt for it at the Academy.
OK, I admit this is lightly off the OP topic, but in relation to the thread title: Why is there no accumulation of "Event Reputation" marks? It seems every seasonal event (Winter/Anniversary/Mirror Universe/Summer) that 100 marks/points are supposedly given, but there is no separate prize for these, they are not accumulated from one event to another, and vanish inexplicably after each event.
It makes no sense to even mention the marks if they have no function. But here's an idea: what if players could get a reward for completing a set number of events? The marks would accumulate, and some prize could be had (maybe a Lobi store item?) for a given number of points. This would be a longevity reward in a sense, for players who have stayed in the game for a longer period of time, and who are active. How about it, Cryptic??
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As grinds go, I like this one. I'm getting free upgrade tokens out of it. I'd be scanning the Omegas between doing other things even IF they weren't part of the daily. Better than just sitting and waiting for a queue to pop, staring at a wall.
This year's "grind" is more player friendly than last's by far. I agree they could just give us the ship for running the mission, but the Omegas (and the dilithium-free upgrade tokens that they make) is a player friendly move, imho.
Not flamming or trolling but if you dont have 10 minutes (MAX) to do ONE daily mission maybe mmos arent meant for your.
One day, when you get a schedule incompatible with the required gaming habit I hope you don't whine about it. You should have recognized that maybe MMOs aren't meant for you anymore.
This is my Risian Corvette. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
I have my own reasons to want the Breen ship, one of my toons is a Science support carrier, built exclusively for group support on a 2 hangar bay ship, so yeah, the ship trait would have been amazing to me?
And its a good ship with a good trait. But in that case, would you *also* want the 5-yr eng ship? The point was that doing every single grind may not be "necessary" or useful to most casual folks. At some point you have 4 useful ship traits and the ship does not fit your build, and can be ignored.
Not to be a jerk, but the time required IS small. It is not a lot to ask for a ship that is effectively the same as the $30 ships in the store. If 10 min every other day is too much for you, then you may not be in a good place to play an MMO style game right now, and you may have to settle for not earning every freebie that is offered until you can get more free time. This happens to most folks at some point in their life. I did not have time for the breen ships a year ago, and missed them until this most recent return event. Sometimes you miss things... real life stores have sales and buy something, get something free or the like specials. No one can make it to all of them, or have the money ready to spend when the event comes around. Sometimes you miss stuff.
If you really need to save some travel time, or your grinding a lower level alt, do the one in around the sirius sector or Qo'nos's sector, then go to the one that tends to be around k-7, go to your fleet starbase, and transwarp to the last sector so you can transwarp home. That works for most of then, or they're within 30-40 seconds and 1 click of 'home.'
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Really? How long do you take to grind and refine 8000 dil a day on 3 characters? How long it takes to set duty officers and R&D assignments for all of them? Talk to your fleet friends and buy/sell things on the Exchange? Then off you go, flying around to do reputation grinding.. tought I was meant to have fun, queue for matches with friends, etc..
Belive me, 5 minutes is a considerable time when you only have a hour (when you can even log) to spare, if all I do is 'work' when I log I would rather not even bother anymore. I already have plenty of that IRL.
Rofl. You have time to grind 3x 8000 dilithium, set R&D and doff missions on your characters, to socialize with your friends and all the other stuff but you can't find 5 min to do the event daily mission? If getting the event ship is really that far down on your priority list why are you nagging about not getting it in the first place? Is anybody forcing you to play this game? You surely sound like it.
Probably older than you and trust me reality has slapped me enough in my youth,but now i see things how they really are,maybe you are the one in need a healthy dose of reality...
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If its GIbbs from the show NCIS yes i do have to agree,he does slap quite a bit...well not slapping TRIBBLE more like a friendly bump on Tinoso's head.
I'm not the one that made the claim of *ANY* schedule.
Being wary of any claim of "it's just X minutes" is a good thing. The "just x minutes" usually leaves out the time it takes to get around to the point of be able to start doing it. Those left out minutes add up fast.
Is Tinoso the name for Tony's bromance with himself?
This is my Risian Corvette. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Time-consuming ? The ice race took like 2 minutes..... And there are always more days than you need to get the ships.
that's if you win. if not you run around back to the start. Ive never actually won because I get frustatrated and leave
But that's not the point.
The point is this pointless daily grind. These things are fun maybe once. Then its just a chore. That's why people AFK events like CE and Mirror. By day 5 its just torture. I wont ever go back to Risa.
They just need to stop these events you mindlessly repeat. Just make us do one hard mission or maybe make it a 4-5 day grind.
I don't even find travel to be an issue (unless your romulan)
bajor, ds9, k7, drozana, sol, vulcan, andoria, SB39, defera are all within 3 sectors of eachother and you get a free transwarp to esd/qonos anyway
It's also good to remember that you don't need to talk to Q in person. there's a button in the journal you can use to hail him, and you can turn in the mission the same way.
I think my favorite thing here is how this mission gives people a reason to scatter throughout the galaxy! no more giant lag hole as everyone goes to the same map at the same time. this is the busiest I've ever seen Andoria or Rura Penthe!
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I love my Risian Corvette. I wouldn't care if they changed it to running just one mission to get it. (Which they almost did with the alt friendly discount.)
"This is my starship. There are many like it, but this one is mine."
ohhh, but the q dailys can take a whole 5 minutes.....who has that kinda time?
You don't have to put up with the idiots who cant spot a runner so spam all the mini Q's for one thing.
Downside is it is still buggy. Game starting is 3, 2, you scored 0 points (I chuckled when the game was being demo'd on twitch and it did this glitch half way through) Some zones still don't work, defera is a prime example.
Upside is that if you have a character around level 30 then you can make use of transwarps and replays to jump about and avoid a lot of the travel time.
Cynical response is that it's aimed at getting people to buy keys to open boxes and use the lobi to buy the random token amount, this should be a fixed number not a random x-y. And at the same time get people used to buying keys for boxes and sucking them into the whole gamble box mentality.
Im with this guy.
The winter event took like 5 min total and that included being sent back to the guy once for fail to start bug and the zone loading screen. Boring, yes. Time eating? Not really. Doing it 3 times for all 3 ships means 15 min, yes, if you did that. You only really "need" the carrier and the pet for it, so 10 / day is more reasonable, the other ship being outdated and not worth grinding for.
The current event is more forgiving but more time eating. You just do the featured episode ONCE and you get 400 / 1000. 600 to go, 40/day. 15 days ... and the event is a long, long running one so I think you could do it every other day and STILL get it done. It does stink that you have to transwarp at least once, if not twice, to get it done, and it can take as long as 15 min if it gives you a "bad" set of places to visit. My best so far was ganalda, drozna, and rua penthe, took just a few min to do that set. Worst was like ds9, drozna, and somewhere else that I have forgotten. Remember that some quests can xwarp you for free.... for example the "test of mettle" quest will take you back to qonos at no cost.
then there is the "why bother" question.
The breen ship ... is a half decent science carrier, good for the odd player with a science heavy build, with a trait for carrier drivers. If you are not either a carrier driver or a science heavy player, you may not need or want the thing.
The 5 year ship is an engineer heavy tank. If you do not play that style .... you may not need or want it. And its hard to imagine a casual (casual players don't have a lot of alts...) that needs both of these ships for their character(s). I have zero use for the 5-year ship. I will earn it, but to be honest I am more excited about doing the daily mission to earn an upgrade item token than I am about the ship, and the main reason I do the thing daily is to get my upgrades, not for the ship...
I don't even find travel to be an issue (unless your romulan)
bajor, ds9, k7, drozana, sol, vulcan, andoria, SB39, defera are all within 3 sectors of eachother and you get a free transwarp to esd/qonos anyway
Belive me, 5 minutes is a considerable time when you only have a hour (when you can even log) to spare, if all I do is 'work' when I log I would rather not even bother anymore. I already have plenty of that IRL.
Also, you just need to do the daily events on one character (to get to 1000 Qmendations) and then do it once on all other characters (to get 40 Qmendations) for the ship. Also, taking 5 minutes (on average) out of your day to do something simple isn't exactly time consuming.
I have my own reasons to want the Breen ship, one of my toons is a Science support carrier, built exclusively for group support on a 2 hangar bay ship, so yeah, the ship trait would have been amazing to me?
7 minutes for you, who can probably play 10h a day, no RL obligations and on school vacation is definitely nothing.
Also, Reading the answer above Works for you too.
I play the daily, five minutes is about the most I spend on it. I spend longer updating my ignore list at ESD each morning. Queueing up R&D for 7 characters takes about the same amount of time. Running through the Exchange, maybe 10 minutes if I'm putting up some doffs for sale and looking for lowball stuff. Chatting with fleetmates (if they are on) can be done while doing other stuff. So if you 'only' have an hour I would say doing all you do and the daily probably would account for maybe 30 minutes. Really not seeing what your problem is.
if you don't think the ship is worth it don't do it....if you think it is worth it and you really have that much of a time crunch you could always cut the "rep grind" for a few weeks....unlike these limited events the reputation stuff will still be there when your done
Deferra (ground) works just fine. Gotten multi toons credit doing scans there... Earth Space however is still borked. Got it last night and no credit for scanning in space.... had to use the work around and hunt for it at the Academy.
It makes no sense to even mention the marks if they have no function. But here's an idea: what if players could get a reward for completing a set number of events? The marks would accumulate, and some prize could be had (maybe a Lobi store item?) for a given number of points. This would be a longevity reward in a sense, for players who have stayed in the game for a longer period of time, and who are active. How about it, Cryptic??
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That would be cool, even if the rep bonuses and gear were only even specific. +2 ice traction or something.
This year's "grind" is more player friendly than last's by far. I agree they could just give us the ship for running the mission, but the Omegas (and the dilithium-free upgrade tokens that they make) is a player friendly move, imho.
One day, when you get a schedule incompatible with the required gaming habit I hope you don't whine about it. You should have recognized that maybe MMOs aren't meant for you anymore.
And its a good ship with a good trait. But in that case, would you *also* want the 5-yr eng ship? The point was that doing every single grind may not be "necessary" or useful to most casual folks. At some point you have 4 useful ship traits and the ship does not fit your build, and can be ignored.
Not to be a jerk, but the time required IS small. It is not a lot to ask for a ship that is effectively the same as the $30 ships in the store. If 10 min every other day is too much for you, then you may not be in a good place to play an MMO style game right now, and you may have to settle for not earning every freebie that is offered until you can get more free time. This happens to most folks at some point in their life. I did not have time for the breen ships a year ago, and missed them until this most recent return event. Sometimes you miss things... real life stores have sales and buy something, get something free or the like specials. No one can make it to all of them, or have the money ready to spend when the event comes around. Sometimes you miss stuff.
Rofl. You have time to grind 3x 8000 dilithium, set R&D and doff missions on your characters, to socialize with your friends and all the other stuff but you can't find 5 min to do the event daily mission? If getting the event ship is really that far down on your priority list why are you nagging about not getting it in the first place? Is anybody forcing you to play this game? You surely sound like it.
I hope you're still posting when reality Gibbs slaps you.
I'm not the one that made the claim of *ANY* schedule.
Being wary of any claim of "it's just X minutes" is a good thing. The "just x minutes" usually leaves out the time it takes to get around to the point of be able to start doing it. Those left out minutes add up fast.
Is Tinoso the name for Tony's bromance with himself?
that's if you win. if not you run around back to the start. Ive never actually won because I get frustatrated and leave
But that's not the point.
The point is this pointless daily grind. These things are fun maybe once. Then its just a chore. That's why people AFK events like CE and Mirror. By day 5 its just torture. I wont ever go back to Risa.
They just need to stop these events you mindlessly repeat. Just make us do one hard mission or maybe make it a 4-5 day grind.
There's missions you can use for cheap transwarps too. What lies beneath takes you directly to drozana for 100ec.
I think my favorite thing here is how this mission gives people a reason to scatter throughout the galaxy! no more giant lag hole as everyone goes to the same map at the same time. this is the busiest I've ever seen Andoria or Rura Penthe!
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