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lordoffiling
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Nimbus III was the desert planet from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
... So, we're embracing Star Trek V as canon, are we? 0.0;
... So, we're embracing Star Trek V as canon, are we? 0.0;
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How can you say otherwise..
JJ WELL. . . . . . that ones still open lol
You can selectively recognize bits and pieces of a story as canon without the rest. It's basically what Roddenberry did when he pruned down TOS and TAS to cover what was and wasn't accepted for TNG. He removed events and storylines from his accepted canon usually without removing the characters* or places involved.
*-He did remove a few characters, though, like Sybok and Gary Seven, and copyright complications removed a couple others like the Kzinti. But for the most part everyone and everyplace remained canon while some of the things that happened to people in those places did not.
Not really. JJ Trek is just as canon as all the other films. But they had the decency to even put the disclaimer into the movie that all of it happens in a parallel universe and as such has no bearing on established canon. So JJ is only relevant to itself and othe films following this particular set of events.
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Actually there's a book that covers who that was. One of the Q books, maybe Q Squared.
I did take issue with Sybok as Spock's half-brother. That isn't so much an error as it is just really dumb, though. I'll swallow that if you tell me I have to.
My only real problem with ST:V was, how in the *hell* did they get from the outer rim of the galaxy to the center in, like, an hour and a half? That doesn't compute.
You dont even need a book, the film itself made quite clear that the being in ST V was not meant to be "god", it just claimed to be. If people still reason their disapproval of STV with it being the film featuring "god" they clearly just repeating stuff they heard
Now, STV has many points one can rightfully attack, don't get me wrong.
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Your statement made me curious so I went and looked this up on Memory Alpha. Talk about a convoluted backstory:
"According to the non-canon Q Continuum series of novels by Greg Cox, the Sha Ka Ree entity was known as "The One," and was exiled to the center of the galaxy for causing a civil war centered around the premature destruction of the legendary Tkon Empire millennia before being rediscovered by Sybok and the crew of the Enterprise-A. He was an associate and contemporary of 0 (pronounced "Nil", as in nothing), the Beta XII-A entity, or (*) as 0 referred to it (used in type because its real name was apparently unpronounceable, or even incomprehensible, by Humans), and Gorgan in this endeavor.
The One was referred to by 0 as the entity "who invented Monotheism." He was not originally of this plane and was summoned to this universe via the Guardian of Forever. After causing chaos among the Tkon Empire, he was subsequently defeated and his body destroyed by the combined efforts of Q2, the female Q, and the Q who became known as Quinn; only his head remained, and that was subsequently sealed away by the Q Continuum at the center of the galaxy until his repentance or the heat death of the universe whichever came first while 0 was sealed outside the galaxy by the galactic barrier for all eternity."
By injected pure Handwavium into the warp core.
Pardon the expression, but that sounds like puke in written form. But then, I could never get into the Q books. The writing was full of... Well, nevermind, the point is I thank the heavens on a daily basis they're not canon.
Agreed. That bit is worse than STV, Spock's Brain and Threshold combined XD
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This is a great example of certain "creative streams" nowadays ruining franchises. People always demand connections between completely unrelated things and demand explanations of things that y their very nature would not require such and ultimately you ruined perfectly good stories forever. Luckily in case of novels you cans avely ignore them, not a single Trek novel is considered "in continuity" with anything on-screen. But if stuff like this happens on-screen in later installments of the franchise (see: Borg completely rewritten and ruined forever with FC/VOY) you can just curse and start to "fanon" it away for you.
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That's pretty much how I feel about all Star Trek EU novels, which IMHO are just bad fan-fiction in printed form.
Unsurprisingly, the best ones tend to be written by those who are already established as SF writers. And the perceived need for more novels results in a lot of bad fanfic being published as "serious" Trek novels (Marshak and Culbreath, I'm looking at you).
I didn't think ST5 was that bad. My biggest problem with the movie was the retcon of Sybok being Spock's brother. I think it was an unnecessary complication that didn't really add anything to the story.
We also got Donatra, the Mogai/Valdore and the Remans from Nemesis, so that movie definitely had some redeeming qualities despite being mostly unwatchable.
This is basically the same redeeming quality as most disaster movies - no matter how unwatchable the two hour version is, the 15 minute version on Youtube is pretty awesome.
All movies and TV episodes are considered cannon. I suppose this includes the animated series as well, but I have not seen any of those episodes.
Anything published in printed format is considered "soft cannon". That includes novels, short stories and technical manuals.
In what way are any of those things "redeeming qualities"? XD Matter of taste, I know, but the Remans are one of the most pointless and stupid things ever concieved in all Trekverse ("we need some ugly orcs for picard to shoot")
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Correction: anything printed is not cannon.
Soft cannon is a b.s. word made up by fans that want the things they like to sound more important than the things they don't like. It's someone saying " nil is bigger than zero but still smaller than .00000000000000000001".
The animated series was removed from canon for a while and then put back, then CBS removed their page on what is and isn't canon. Nothing has changed since then.
Redeeming qualities because -
Donatra - Because now we get to fight her in Vortex!
Mogai/Valdore - This is self-explanatory. One of the coolest ship designs in STO.
Remans - Hey, HEY! Obisek would like a word with you regarding your feelings about the proud Reman people. I actually have a Reman female character because the females look like space vampires and that is awesome.
If you'd like to discuss a Trek movie that has no redeeming qualities, we can talk about Insurrection.
Haha, that sums it up pretty nicely