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Any Testing done with Embassy Consoles and the Plasma Disruptor Hybrid weapons?

lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
Title says it..I am curious as to how effective Embassy Consoles are with the mission reward. Does the chance to add a dot stack with the proc the weapon has because it is technically a Disruptor weapon?
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  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,676 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Last I played with that combo, each [Pla]/Plasma-generating console added an additional chance for a Plasma DoT to Hybrid-Plasma Disruptors.
  • farseeridranelfarseeridranel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    So does that mean I could have 6 times the chance for a plasma proc (on a sci vessel with 5 sci consoles) ? Meaning a 26% of a plasma proc? (I hope I calculated the right). Does the DOT stack or the chance that a DOT is applied?
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    So does that mean I could have 6 times the chance for a plasma proc (on a sci vessel with 5 sci consoles) ? Meaning a 26% of a plasma proc? (I hope I calculated the right). Does the DOT stack or the chance that a DOT is applied?

    proc chance stays the same... 2.5%

    however from what I understand... if one of the embassy consoles proc... all the embassy consoles proc.

    it does not trigger the default proc on the weapon itself.

    if your using 4 forward weapons with a proc... just cause one of them procs does not mean all the weapons proc.
  • farseeridranelfarseeridranel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    tigeraries wrote: »
    proc chance stays the same... 2.5%

    however from what I understand... if one of the embassy consoles proc... all the embassy consoles proc.

    it does not trigger the default proc on the weapon itself.

    if your using 4 forward weapons with a proc... just cause one of them procs does not mean all the weapons proc.

    Are you sure? Say I shoot 1 time. Chance for 1st proc to fail is 97.5%, then chance for the next proc to fail is 97.5 % and so on. Overall chance that one plasma proc will proc should be 1-(1-0.025)^6 = 14.1 % (Ok, the 26% was wrong calculated). Now, how does that work? Let's say 1st proc is triggered, is the next independent of that one?
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Are you sure? Say I shoot 1 time. Chance for 1st proc to fail is 97.5%, then chance for the next proc to fail is 97.5 % and so on. Overall chance that one plasma proc will proc should be 1-(1-0.025)^6 = 14.1 % (Ok, the 26% was wrong calculated). Now, how does that work? Let's say 1st proc is triggered, is the next independent of that one?

    all procs have a 2.5% of going off... odds stay at 2.5% each roll it makes.

    you could say that cause your weapon now has 5 procs so it has 5 chances... that your odds have gone up. but in actuality your odds are still 2.5 per roll. but yes you now have more chances of it going off.

    which is why faw is so good for the procs... cause your spamming so many targets and that currently the embassy consoles all trigger if even one of them procs.
  • farseeridranelfarseeridranel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    tigeraries wrote: »

    you could say that cause your weapon now has 5 procs so it has 5 chances... that your odds have gone up. but in actuality your odds are still 2.5 per roll. but yes you now have more chances of it going off.

    Well they should still add up to 1-(1-0.025)^6 = 14.1 % per weapon (?). I found this thread here: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=543051

    With 6 beam arrays (1 Proc) I should get the same chance (14.1 %). Now we could even have the proc 6 times per weapon (1 from the hybrid weapon and 5 from the consoles). How does that add up (regradless of the console proc activating other console procs)? In the same way (cumulative probability)?.
  • lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    So the Hybrid Plasma then should have a 5% chance over the 2.5%?
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  • farseeridranelfarseeridranel Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    lowy1 wrote: »
    So the Hybrid Plasma then should have a 5% chance over the 2.5%?

    No, it is not additive like this. It should be 1-(1-0.025)^2=0,049....Ok 5 % :)

    That is 1 beam, 1 console, one shot I assume.
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,676 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    lowy1 wrote: »
    So the Hybrid Plasma then should have a 5% chance over the 2.5%?

    Disruptor and Plasma procs are separated on the Hybrid Plasma-Disruptor, if one procs, the other might or might not, based entirely on its own roll.

    Though, last I heard and played around with, Romulan Plasma is proc-linked, so if one goes the other does too, giving it 2x rolls at 2.5%.
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