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riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
edited January 2015 in PvP Gameplay
I was reading the dev blog.

While browsing through the space abilities I was like "well, they don't look so badly broken".

Then I read
Concentrate Firepower
Mark a targeted foe, to coordinate your allies’ weapon fire. All torpedo attacks made against the marked foe deal additional Kinetic damage that bypasses shields. Striking the marked target also has a chance of granting a free High Yield Torpedo I mode to the attacking ally.

I did 2+2. If we sum neutronic, violent detonation (commando tree shield bypassing exploit) and that.

Neutronic one shots already. Now you'll be dead before that TRIBBLE gets out the launcher.

In the graph we can see how "Balance" and "Cryptic" are not even tangents between each other.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    edit: Never mind...wow, I'm impressed. They actually fixed the precedence issue. Attaboy, Cryptic.
  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    since we can't test them we won't know for sure, but I have a feeling this will be cleared by TT. If that's the case then I'll like it because it will require timing and coordination.

    it's just neutronics...
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I'm concerned that it may affect preferred firing cycles by triggering a CD on other Torp abilities because you randomly got the HY1. Folks have said they've chained BOs from the Over mod, but I've never seen that happen. What I have seen happen with that though is that the innate Subsystem Targeting abilities grey out...suggesting that they are affected by the 5s triggered delay (not necessarily the 15s triggered CD, but the 5s delay).
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    What about HY Bio?
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    so every 3 months we get new specialization abilities, only a few tier 6 ships that can use them, wile everything else gets more and more obsolete?

    why would you even attempt to deal energy weapons damage if you didn't have intel skill access? or even try to use torps unless you had command skill access? your tier5U scow cant touch the potential these tier 6 have.


    how many weeks will it take for you to even unlock the command skills, on the ships you had to pay $30 for each, just so you could use them?

    exactly how many patrols will it take to get from 60, to a completed specialization grind now? it was already over 1000 gerran runs.

    who is the dark lord that now guides cryptic in a literally evil way of doing things? to turn the STO dev team into the living breathing satire of worst case scenario F2P model? who are these devs and what did they do to the people that made an actually enjoyable game for a solid 4 years?
  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I'm beginning to see something here, on the bet you by December of this year pretty much all the popular T5 ships will have T6 version, with something be it Intel or whatever new thing they come up with mean after all people are screaming for T6 versions of the famous ships and I think you're gonna get it, but the elders have to pay for it all over again just like they did with the intrepid by way did anybody notice reroute power from life support is pretty much a direct counter to all the drain builds out there that got to do something about that kind of weird actually I you think they don't listen to people complain about that kind of stuff but then by a couple months later they roll around with a direct counter to something someone was complaining about now if we could just get them to fix new Tronic torpedo surgical strikes oh and they said that that is confirmed blog about being able to fire from cloak but they said it was on the list and noted whatever that list is and whenever they're gonna fix it we have no idea because now you can go and bring it up again because if you do you'll probably get banned for spamming
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    so every 3 months we get new specialization abilities, only a few tier 6 ships that can use them, wile everything else gets more and more obsolete?

    why would you even attempt to deal energy weapons damage if you didn't have intel skill access? or even try to use torps unless you had command skill access? your tier5U scow cant touch the potential these tier 6 have.

    It should be clear to everyone know what there plan is.

    People where not buying ships fast enough... the fleet ships didn't keep selling after people got one they liked. People haven't been buying the zen store re re re rerelease versions of everything.

    So the new plan is simple.

    Release a New Spec tree every 4-6 months. Release a new Spec bridge seat to go with that is obviously going to have options that clearly replace anything you where flying previously.

    This way they keep you grinding until the next ship... and forced to buy a new ship every time they start a new cycle.

    At the pace of leveling... right about the time you complete one spec tree grind and have your shiny ship all set up with Bridge officers with that spec. Its now time for cryptic to restart the cycle.

    I hope most people wise up and get off there silly grind. Its the most blatant cash grab scheme I have ever seen in an online game. Even the average Korean style grinder isn't so bold. lol
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    It should be clear to everyone know what there plan is.

    People where not buying ships fast enough... the fleet ships didn't keep selling after people got one they liked. People haven't been buying the zen store re re re rerelease versions of everything.

    So the new plan is simple.

    Release a New Spec tree every 4-6 months. Release a new Spec bridge seat to go with that is obviously going to have options that clearly replace anything you where flying previously.

    This way they keep you grinding until the next ship... and forced to buy a new ship every time they start a new cycle.

    At the pace of leveling... right about the time you complete one spec tree grind and have your shiny ship all set up with Bridge officers with that spec. Its now time for cryptic to restart the cycle.

    I hope most people wise up and get off there silly grind. Its the most blatant cash grab scheme I have ever seen in an online game. Even the average Korean style grinder isn't so bold. lol

    and they totally could have pulled it off, if they didn't change so many global modifiers and stick a 1000 patrol grind in the way of just playing the game.

    we are witnessing an act of sabotage, no one sane would have signed off on this grind they have perpetrated on us. we have been tolerating a steady level of grind for 4 years, in year 5, so one with any self respect would put up with the grind being squared, the pay wall squared, and the P2W and imbalance cubed.
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    and they totally could have pulled it off, if they didn't change so many global modifiers and stick a 1000 patrol grind in the way of just playing the game.

    we are witnessing an act of sabotage, no one sane would have signed off on this grind they have perpetrated on us. we have been tolerating a steady level of grind for 4 years, in year 5, so one with any self respect would put up with the grind being squared, the pay wall squared, and the P2W and imbalance cubed.

    No doubt. I could totally live with being forced to pick up a new ship a few times a year if I wanted to use the latest thing. (with fleet models later that added a more limited version of the same stuffs to all the ship. Like T6 Store ships having a cmd seat of the spec of the week, and the {Insert Spec} Version fleets 3 months later having a lt cmd but being open to all our old favorites.)
    If they had done that in a way where I could play for a few hours in the evening and earn 3-5 spec points... it wouldn't be just plain annoying. Playing for 5 hours a night and not quite getting that one spec point done is stupid.

    Yep its sad that all the super grind has done is wake people up.

    A sane grind with the same mechanics and we would all be talking about how it would be "shaking" up pvp for a bit then going back to normal. Cryptic plain Fd this thing up. Even if they dial the grind back now 500% the dmg is done. lol
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  • playhard88playhard88 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    do you guys still play this TRIBBLE? really...is a lost battle.
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2015
    edit: Never mind...wow, I'm impressed. They actually fixed the precedence issue. Attaboy, Cryptic.

    Woah, when?
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Woah, when?

    I don't know, I went hunting for my old bug report to write a new bug report with the concern about the HY1 and it was closed with RESOLVED in the title. So I slotted HY1/TS1 to do some testing...previously it didn't matter if you HY/TS or TS/HY it would be HY/TS...but when I did TS/HY it actually did TS/HY. Could be fun then with the TS Neuts and HY E-Bio or TS Grav and HY E-Bio. Heh, even the Disrupting Photons and a HY E-Bio.
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    It should be clear to everyone know what there plan is.

    People where not buying ships fast enough... the fleet ships didn't keep selling after people got one they liked. People haven't been buying the zen store re re re rerelease versions of everything.

    So the new plan is simple.

    Release a New Spec tree every 4-6 months. Release a new Spec bridge seat to go with that is obviously going to have options that clearly replace anything you where flying previously.

    This way they keep you grinding until the next ship... and forced to buy a new ship every time they start a new cycle.

    At the pace of leveling... right about the time you complete one spec tree grind and have your shiny ship all set up with Bridge officers with that spec. Its now time for cryptic to restart the cycle.

    I hope most people wise up and get off there silly grind. Its the most blatant cash grab scheme I have ever seen in an online game. Even the average Korean style grinder isn't so bold. lol

    Its funny.. today I saw the Dev blog and was curious by it.. At first I was like.. "Ok cool sounding powers.. What's the catch?"
    You need a NEW ship of course!

    And my desire to log into STO died as soon as I saw that part. Fool me once Cryptic shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.. :rolleyes:
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  • cptndata1cptndata1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    webdeath wrote: »
    Its funny.. today I saw the Dev blog and was curious by it.. At first I was like.. "Ok cool sounding powers.. What's the catch?"
    You need a NEW ship of course!

    And my desire to log into STO died as soon as I saw that part. Fool me once Cryptic shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.. :rolleyes:
    Amen to that, I'm going to be on GTA 5 PC or LOTRO. Ciao. Cryptic is doomed.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    playhard88 wrote: »
    do you guys still play this TRIBBLE? really...is a lost battle.

    agreed... they broke it all the way through
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    cptndata1 wrote: »
    Amen to that, I'm going to be on GTA 5 PC or LOTRO. Ciao. Cryptic is doomed.

    Haven't played LOTRO in years. I should download it and see what has changed.
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    cptndata1 wrote: »
    Amen to that, I'm going to be on GTA 5 PC or LOTRO. Ciao. Cryptic is doomed.

    They pushed back GTA 5 for PC til March! :(
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    Think about this:
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  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    playhard88 wrote: »
    do you guys still play this TRIBBLE? really...is a lost battle.

    of course not. we would like to, thats why we still patrol the forums, giveing feedback in no uncertain terms that whats acceptable is multiple football field lengths away from what exists.
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