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horatiofenix
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Hello, I have recently decided to post up my Scimitar build onto Skill Planner to see what people think.
A few things to bare in mind though, I play for fun not for top-notch DPS which is why I use cannons and torps and not beams and BFAW but I still try to get as much out of my build as I can in both damage output and survivability.
This ship has a 28% crit chance thanks to all my BOFF's being superior operatives... Except for Tovan. I also use an A2B build simply as it works very well with cannons, I can keep up my Scatter Volley 90% of the time, usually only with a couple seconds of downtime also thanks to a DOFF that halfs it's cool down. Also I use a Warp Core Engineer DOFF.
All of this means I can solo cubes in advanced Borg STF's no problem and managed to go toe-to-toe with the tactical cube solo for about 5 minutes until others killed the gate and came to help, only knocked off 10% of it's hull but I didn't die
In a few games someone has been using a DPS monitor and so far I seem to be clocking in at around 25-27k DPS which I think is pretty decent for a cannon/torp build. Also my turn rate is ridiculous thanks to Helmsmen, some consoles, and the Pilot specialization
Anyway I'd love some feedback, mostly to do with the consoles I use a lot of universal consoles and I am not sure I need to use them all but I have little reason not to right now.
Build: http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=cannonscimi_9124
A few things to bare in mind though, I play for fun not for top-notch DPS which is why I use cannons and torps and not beams and BFAW but I still try to get as much out of my build as I can in both damage output and survivability.
This ship has a 28% crit chance thanks to all my BOFF's being superior operatives... Except for Tovan. I also use an A2B build simply as it works very well with cannons, I can keep up my Scatter Volley 90% of the time, usually only with a couple seconds of downtime also thanks to a DOFF that halfs it's cool down. Also I use a Warp Core Engineer DOFF.
All of this means I can solo cubes in advanced Borg STF's no problem and managed to go toe-to-toe with the tactical cube solo for about 5 minutes until others killed the gate and came to help, only knocked off 10% of it's hull but I didn't die
In a few games someone has been using a DPS monitor and so far I seem to be clocking in at around 25-27k DPS which I think is pretty decent for a cannon/torp build. Also my turn rate is ridiculous thanks to Helmsmen, some consoles, and the Pilot specialization
Anyway I'd love some feedback, mostly to do with the consoles I use a lot of universal consoles and I am not sure I need to use them all but I have little reason not to right now.
Build: http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=cannonscimi_9124
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Weapons wise, I'd swap out the rear turrets for Elite Fleet Disruptors for the shield damaging procs. That or swap out one turret for the Heavy Disruptor turret and then the Zero Point console for a Hydrodynamics Compensator for the rather nice damage bonus to Disruptors, more turn and accuracy.
BOff wise, I'd consider swapping Polarize Hull for Sci Team for it's more useful clearing of certain Debuffs.
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=cannonscimi_9124
However, if you want a setup that's less specialized, but more universal, it comes down to the Boffs. That being said, i certainly agree with this:
This way, you have all cleanses, along with your Hazard emitters. Then, replace APB with TS1, then your TS2 with APO. That way, you still have your torp barrage, albeit less, but you still have 2 attack patterns and 2 tractor resists.
I hope this helps.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
my DHC pvp setup the 2 scimi console set pieces are replaced if needed but they help alot i find in the play-style i have with it (the set and the consoles improve turn rate which is a problem for the scimi so they work)
it can pve fine as alot is invested in it
1 dual beam BO3 and 3 BO doffs for shield pen for all my Elachi cannons a greater ability to shred hull iknow iknow mixing cannons and beams /powers and all that jazz but it works and gives me good burst for not being a squishy tact captain
doffs in notes of the skill planner
i regularly defeat 3 on 1 fights with fleeties or friends from a fav channel
Not bad. You show good insight with the single vulnerability exploiter.
I'm at 48k in my cannon Scim, and hopefully will break the 50k mark after I get my last 2 cannons to epic and get a nice lag free run.
You weapon setup is reasonable, but you need to move away from the borg set and away from a2b if you want to up your dps numbers significantly. You might also consider replacing the neutronium +turn console with a fleet RCS +resall, but that's personal preference.
1st major improvement for equipment is your deflector...go to Undine.
If you decide to keep the neutronic torpedo, upgrade it as soon as possible, and pick up an adapted maco shield and engine. It makes the neutronic torpedo quite obnoxious with the 25% torpedo dmg increase from the 2 pc set bonus. I even drop 1 energy weapon tac console for a quantum projectile console on mine. You're already using the hydrodynamics compensator, so you'll get an even bigger boost off or torpedo damage than I do.
Engineering abilities are actually where you're losing the most dps. A2B makes it impossible to run the aux to offense trait. You need that trait.
You also need EPtW. Either 2 copies or a single copy with appropriate doffs so that it has 100% up time.
Lose the ensign engineer. EPtS is worthless with the Valdore console that you're using. Use a ensign tac officer instead, and either a TS1 or a 2nd tac team (if you don't have boffs) so you have tac team up all the time...well, like 90% of the time.
You need the doff: Marion Francis Dulmar, and at least 1 copy of DEM (any level will do...I use DEM3 personally). Only use your DEM with a damage spike (attack patterns up, target debuffed)...because you ONLY get 8 seconds of reduced weapon power drain after hitting DEM. It's a nice 8 seconds though, which allows your 4th cannon to do something other than pretend it's a nerf gun shooting foam balls at the enemy.
Yes, I know my suggested changes will make you more brittle and die faster...but the good news is that everything else will die much faster than you will. My only healing abilities are RSP2, and HE1...and I very rarely die, even using the new anchored trait (though the shield penetrating dots are becoming more annoying). I usually just blow everything up and then hit HE1 to cleanse the dots, and move on to the next cluster of targets.
Anyhow, best of luck...and good to see someone else trying to run an effective cannon Scim
Also do you use Omega or Beta? I currently use Beta 1 but tried out Omega 1 instead of Spread 3 (changing to Spread 2) and the results seemed effective enough.
I used to use Beta 1, but have been toying with CSV1 in that slot lately. Always having CSV3 or CSV1 up seems to result in bigger parses on some fights, but lower on others. At the end of this testing, I will likely go back to Beta1.
Omega 3 is nice, but it seems to be a lesser ability than Beta 1 + CSV3. Since I'm carrying a Neutronic torpedo, I also need TS3 instead of CSV2...and CSV1 by itself with Omega3 just won't work that well.
I would like to know if you keybind at all???? and what order are you doing if you are ... I have struggled with activating abilities and its killing my DPS to no end .. Ive tried many combinations, and just not sure what you might be using based on your BOFF layout...
Also if there is a way to post your skill tree and traits.. would definitely help out ... Iv'e read up on the "RyanSTO" builds... but seem to fall short.. and yes... investment is the correct term to use ......... !! $$$
Kind Regards ..... Brianna