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Why don't we have a choice with the new BOFF icons?
darramouss1
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Currently we can choose what colours our user interface has due to a setting in the options. This is an awesome feature.
I don't like the new BOFF icons and I especially don't like them being forced upon us. Why can we not have a setting in the options that allows us to choose which ones we use?
I don't like the new BOFF icons and I especially don't like them being forced upon us. Why can we not have a setting in the options that allows us to choose which ones we use?
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not sure if the game supports plugins that have custom ui/icons... if it does then you could always use that.
I mean, seriously, when I first saw some of the icons - I thought they were placeholders - they were icons from some fantasy game that were just placeholders while they were working on stuff. When I'm playing half-asleep in the middle of the morning, one of these days I'm probably going to file a bug report wondering why my fireball spell isn't working. Some of the new icons are just that WTF....
The new HE icon tells me that I'm firing an AoE fireball...where is my AoE fireball?
The before picture of Hazard Emitters is confusing. What exactly does it increase? The pluses in the after picture indicate that it is some type of healing power. Look at the before and after pictures for Tykon's Rift. The before picture is completely confusing while the after picture shows that some type of rift is involved. The before picture of Orbital Strike looks confusing while the after picture looks like an Orbital Strike.
Changing the color of the UI is still using the same images, just changing what color is being applied to those images.
If we had all of the old icons, and all of the new icons, that's twice the texture memory, and would likely slow down the UI even more than it is now.
As such, the icons have simply been replaced. I know it's new, and different, but give them a chance. You might just find some of them easier to understand than the old ones.
It's all going to be subjective, no doubt, and there are therefore some that I see as definite improvements to make things easier for folks that might not have them memorized as to what they do...so that's definitely an attaboy, Cryptic thing. Some of them though...meh, I just find them bewildering.
They're an improvement. I like them.
It's like a brand new game. And it give mes something to do while I visit the same systems over and over.
My comment is GREAT JOB! The knew icons are a heck of a lot easier for me to understand. I have been in STO for a number of years now and I am still confused by most of the old ones. With this update I can start trying out a few things I didn't before because of the confusion I have.
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So some look a little bit goofy ( sweeping strikes ) so what, it isn't the end of the game or the world!.
For me they work an thats ok.
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Why is Sensor Scan a skull?
Why is SNB me looking through a magnifying glass at people?
Why do I think I'm turning on a fan with Gravity Well?
Is BFI a sunrise or a sunset?
Is FAW the new name for a Claw attack?
Why does HE look like a fire cone attack?
Why does Scattering Field look like a PBAoE electrical attack?
Why does TS look like I'm firing a HY with a couple of its friends...is one stronger than the rest?
Why is Sci Fleet telling me that it is a Team Sci Team?
PH...I dig the concept, I really do. Telling me that it's Aux based, love that. But then you're showing me a Shield...but it's a Hull buff, not a Shield buff.
Sure, most of the old icons didn't really help folks - didn't really tell them squat - they just had to learn them. The new ones though? They're downright misleading.
Id pay to get the old UI skin.The current UI pretty much the old one with new skins and colors ,so the old skin is not that hard to get back...in c store or lockbox ,i dont care Id buy it
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Maybe fixing things so that the UI doesn't slow the game down so much might be a good way forward. Then we can have our choice of classic icons or picture sandwich ones.
Also, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, but if you're not used to icons after years then I put it to you that you're never going to get used to any of them. Ever.
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Sorry, but I just don't see your point at all.
The new icons all make more sense to me than the old ones.
I, for one, don't find them too busy. I like them.
With all the complaints about the game I have had lately, it's honestly refreshing to simply like something they have presented.
Sorry. Can't agree with you on this.
It really sounds like you are simply opposing change because you don't like change.
That's not a bad thing, but this (I think) is a case of ... this change is happening.
You can yell about it all you want, but it's happening anyway.
To me, at least the new icons all make sense, and are a change with a resulting improvement.
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Can't disagree there.
The UI is a problem.
I mostly play with it toggled off these days.
It really improves game performance.
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For example, they added the rank on every one of them, which is another informations. On top of what we used to have.
Yes and no. Some of them didn't make much sense before, so it's an improvement. But look at hazard emitter, I always think I'm going to throw a fireball.
Sensor scan, it took me about 1m to see it was a ship on the background, still, doesn't make sense.
As for subncleonic beam, it look like what sensor scan should look like. Using a magnifying glass on people debuff them ?
I don't say it's terribad, and I'm never going to deal with it. I'm just saying, like with the old icons, I'm going to memorize them, and not really know what they do because of what they look like. Also, and that help, my abilities have always the same position no matter the ship. So brace for impact for example, is always at the same place, no matter the icon, I'll know it's brace for impact.
It's an improvement for some, it's not for others. And all of them are more busy.
That's not a skull. That's a top-down BoP outline with two sensor targets "pointing out" weakspots. The bars would imply something like armor durability/thickness/denseness, if it was an FPS and you were doing real-time scanning.
You have something of a point; though the fact that the ability does target crew makes the people portion correct. The fact that the "beam" looks like a stylized "fast" bowling ball about to knock them down could be better though. (Kind of hilarious to think that we're bowling down the crew, actually.)
Maybe it's just due to the fact that I've played a host of military and sci-fi games and have watched anime styling their attacks, but that Icon readily reminds me of a gravity well/black hole (moreso since matter usually does get drawn in in a spiral regardless). There's even a little arrow pointing towards the center.
Of course, if we want to take the fan analogy, it does spin when sucking things up too (turbofans and turboprops being the most obvious).
It's an explosion on the armor. I've seen a similar one as a unit power in some sci-fi/military games. The fact the armor is unbreached despite the explosion on it is supposed to signify "tough armor".
Reminds me of a multi-attack icon used in a few sci-fi/military games, or heck, the 3-way shot from old bullet hell games like Raiden. So it readily makes sense for me as Fire at Will.
Looks more like an cut-out piece of armor plate with fire damage on it to me. Granted, the many little +s don't signify the ability well (actually reminds me of a college class diagramming molecules formed from burning things). A larger + on an armor plate with the fire half active half off (left side of the + would be fire and charred armor plating, right side would be no fire and a shiny-looking armor plate) would have been preferable.
You have a valid point with that one; I can't make out much detail to identify it otherwise.
Same as the new FaW icon; I've seen similar variants used in sci-fi/military games to denote a mass missile strike power (one large missile and 2-3 smaller ones in the icon, much like the new TS icon). Heck, some old fantasy games used that icon with Arrows to denote "Arrow Rain".
Another valid point.
I have to disagree for the majority of what you've mentioned. But that's again, based on my experience with other military and sci-fi games.
Yea I agree the ui needs some streamlining.
If the last sentence is aimed in my direction I take no offense. I didn't say I am not used to them but from my perspective the new icons are more descriptive of the power they are attached too. I have a hard time memorizing things and need to use visual clues. A side effect of the dyslexia I have. So for me the new icons will make things much easier.
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The ability to change a UI is something that I believe most games these days should be able to provide. It's something that allows a game to cater to everyone. The lack of this feature in STO means that some players will be pleased and others won't.
I think I can safely say that fixing the UI and then giving us options is something that no player could really oppose.
Heh, do a Google Image Search for Wolverine claws...and well...which were pretty much the Hero Claws back in City of Heroes.
So yeah, it's going to get into backgrounds and familiarity. I've played far more Fantasy or Superhero games than I have Sci-Fi or Military games. So I'm seeing claws and fireballs...
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