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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Additional Clarification:

    Yes i am John#numbers. I'm also porchsong and Ryan. Sometimes i'm also Felisean. Most of the time I'm the above poster FuturePastNow.

    :P

    So the entire forums consist of just one person. And here I thought that all the players in the game and forums were just npcs.
  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2015
    Additional Clarification:

    Yes i am John#numbers. I'm also porchsong and Ryan. Sometimes i'm also Felisean. Most of the time I'm the above poster FuturePastNow.

    :P

    Sarcasm's actually me. I run /r/sto, /r/stobuilds, the dps-leagues, and Club Noob, all at once. I have 17k the computers of a normal person, and I do this by having 17x the hands of a normal person.
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  • daunknownadmindaunknownadmin Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Lets ignore the facts that Ryan provides not only his build, and his parses; He also has a bloody video where you can see exactly what he is doing. you would think that if he was cheating somebody would have seen him use multiple Nadeon bomb consoles right?

    There's also the fact that Ryan does live runs on Twitch, where he freely shares a lot of information and has even invited other players to do runs with him on Tribble. I know because I've done a few runs with him and I'm not part of his "inner circle, fleet, etc. or elite DPSer/Exploiter"
  • darkknightucfdarkknightucf Member Posts: 1,546 Media Corps
    edited January 2015
    I wonder if the OP thinks that any torpedo ship doing more than 20K is hax? Multiple Nadon bombs? Really?

    What next? Delta Rising being the best expansion ever, and the players love it for the silly trolls?
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2015
    skollulfr wrote: »
    is this the point where people start putting "sarcasmdetector alt account" in their signatures?
    CLR—DPS [Damage IN](% of Table)—Vel 63,260 [559,968](73%) - Believe in the tank.


    I'm sarcasm's alt account, created to avoid dps. That's why I fly tanks. Then the above happened. Oops. :P

    It is indeed.
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  • grinselding187grinselding187 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    wow...

    also ich bin
  • giotarizgiotariz Member Posts: 652 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    lolwtf......
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  • supergirl1611supergirl1611 Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ah just another flame post by a poor loser who got his butt handed to him in PvP and didn't like it.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited January 2015

    es ist nur krank wie die menschen sich verhalten wenn pl
  • ussdelphin2ussdelphin2 Member Posts: 525 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Plot twist, the op is one of Sarcasmdetectors alts/multiple personalities that doesn't like the rest.
    How I picture a lot of the forumites :P
  • jasonl21jasonl21 Member Posts: 121 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Likely butthurt from the OP for some reason. But what I know from the DPS channels I've been in, they in the channels have openly talked about how to exploit multiple consoles with the sole purpose of cheating.

    It doesn't help the arrogance displayed by them either in the channels to non channel people or those here on the forums.
  • sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2015
    I'm guessing the ability to stack three of particular type of duty officer is now also considered cheating by the OP? Whilst I've not always seen eye to eye with some of the people from the DPS channels, I don't see what they would have to gain from cheating. And as for using exploits, any one remember people getting labelled exploiters for making use of Japori, even though the issue was reported before it even made it to Holodeck.

    Or better yet, I bet the OP thinks myself and the other two guys cheated because we three manned Infected ground! For gods sake get a grip! its a game nothing more. If the developers wont close a potential exploit then the fault lies with them.
    Oh, it's not broken? We can soon fix that!

  • spencerb96spencerb96 Member Posts: 247 Media Corps
    edited January 2015
    Wow OP you really got us DPSers here. Obviously equipping multiple Nadion bombs to our ships is how DPS is done.

    The Nadion Bomb fires off 6 total shots. In the video we see exactly 6 shots from it, but obviously watching the video is not enough here. So lets look at the parse of that run that is available for anyone to look at.

    I've taken a screenshot of the parse, and added numbers next to each shot to aid you with counting them.
    As you can see from that parse, there were 6 total Nadion Bombs launched, which means he only hit the console once. Had he hit it more than once, you'd see more Nadion Bombs in that parse.
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  • holofrogholofrog Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Hi Guys,

    i was the person, who told Ryan and Co. about the Video.
    A member of my german fleet informed me during serverdowntime about the video. After i saw this, i replied on the german forums: http://sto-forum.de.perfectworld.eu/showpost.php?p=4982891&postcount=4 (16:58 German Time).

    At this time, the Video already had more than 300 views.

    When I wanted to show Ryan the Video, you were already banned (~23:40 German Time).

    So, he didn't knew the Video before you were banned!

    Btw. when Ryan replied on the german forums, the Video was already banned:
    http://sto-forum.de.perfectworld.eu/showpost.php?p=4985451&postcount=21 (0:22 german time).


    So, you can see, that you were banned a long time before that conversation :)


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  • k4t3k4t3 Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    A group against one person - no matter what happened, that's embarrassing and really sad to see!

    And btw if OP is wrong why don't you just say nothing or that he's wrong instead of debating, insulting and so on?
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  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    The basic thing happening here is that some guy wants to show a bug in the game. But instead of just doing that he starts accusing all kinds of ppl of using this bug to achieve dps records namely ryan and his nadeon bomb run.

    When they tried talking to him about it he acted like he knows everything and rejects every way and form the dps guys and ryan offer to show him what really happened and that no bugusing has taken place.

    While this whole thing is more sad than anything else its also a great showcase for what happens when someone very sure of himself cant accept that *maybe* he made a mistake accusing ppl he doesnt even know of cheating. Sadly hes also not the smartest guy ever and continues to ask for prove from those accused proving their innocence while at no point he himself is able to provide any kind of prove for his obviously flawed statements.

    Its entitlement like this that makes the internet such a bad place to use at times.
  • urborginurborgin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I feel left out a bit - why arent you me as well?

    [...]

    Oh und falls du kackboon das hier liest - arm - ganz sch
  • minerkminerk Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ...mein englisch ist wirklich nicht gut, aber statt dessen man hier den text wohl genauer lie
  • desade1desade1 Member Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    john98837 wrote: »
    Here is the boiled down version for you. He accuses RyanSTO of cheating by using more than one of a unique console. Apparently the fact that in Ryan's video he doesn't show his ship layout screen, combined with the fact that this guy can't do the same DPS, is proof of this cheating. Several of us then have a good laugh at his expense. He insists that we must do another run and make a video for him otherwise we are cheating and using more than one console. He also admits he has never used the Nadeon console, which is the one he is going on about, so he has no idea how its animation normally plays. We don't really give 2 ****s about this moron and continue to have some good amusement at his expense.

    He then proceeds to post this on the forums in violation of the flaming & trolling and naming & shaming policies, as well as posting a video link which details exactly how to perform an exploit. I am sure this will end well for him.

    Well that seems to clear up the confusion, and is 100x more coherent than the OP....
  • nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Like i say many times online, there are a lot of weird ppl out there :D lol
  • zero2362zero2362 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Suprised this thread hasnt been closed yet with all the TOS violations the OP made
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  • sarcasmdetectorsarcasmdetector Member Posts: 1,176 Media Corps
    edited January 2015
    So I'm surprised ... my english is not really good, but instead you the text reads well here, just have attacks me personally.

    So to come naturally over I just write in German, I do not care


    I think it is nothing special when someone goes dps, more than 100k, it simply does not interest me.

    I locked the video seen as satiere than hint at what make the game for pvp community prohibitive.

    in the video it's just 2 seconds to someone I do not know, but due to the sudden increase in dps in the game and the ever popular glitches, which was also deliberately build the ship, not shown in the vid. Moreover, it was not scimitar, but a ship whose dps bearing capacity on a console is that no shared cooldown, so no cool down has. then it is easy to draw near to doubt that there's something wrong.


    especially the fact that the john really wanted to show me how long it takes until the next nadion nadion bomb bomb at time consumed (nachlesbar in the log). He seemed to know exactly the time ... it to believe. So to know that the game 2 indicates secunden. but not to recognize that you can throw bombs in 2 seconds 3 nadion, since only new activation time is a cd.
    realized buffleisten a bind outside of the displayed, selected.


    it's not rocket science to realize a reasonably similar porno dps and stifle any disk in the germ, but that does not seem possible, probably because the layouts of the ships without loadout bug ... not be omg if you can execute the in foreign countries probably sued ... rofl times comes back to reality.


    the video wheeler was never about ryan or who we want it to be. I still do not know him and I do not care. it was about the exploit. the was made here to allerst public, so that is fixed. instead, does not want the league dps her ego see scratched, and appears with the delete of the videos instrumental in wearing that cryptic never comes up with the idea to nutzvollen so bug of each dps runs to give.


    it is just as sick as the people behave when suddenly the possibility exists that they have been exposed as a liar.

    and one of the few surviving members of the community pvp after deltacaust, I know exactly what high dps are possible, even if I think it is idiotic posturing.

    Google Translate

    If you really didn't know Ryan and didn't care, then why did you spam his youtube account so much that google suspended you?

    Also the Nadeon console shoots out 6 bombs. You can see in Ryan's videos AND parse that it only shoots 6 bombs.
    urborgin wrote: »
    Ok folks, I normally NEVER post here, but this made me LOL so damned hard! :-D



    Ich habe keinen blassen, was Dein Problem ist. Aber ein Video zu bauen das nen Exploit zeigt, zu behaupten irgendwelche Leute (die Du ja nicht mal kennst) w
  • darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    k4t3 wrote: »
    A group against one person - no matter what happened, that's embarrassing and really sad to see!

    That's like attacking a police officer and expecting only one officer to respond.

    If you make insulting accusations against an entire group of people, it's stupid to not expect members of the group to respond.
    k4t3 wrote: »
    And btw if OP is wrong why don't you just say nothing or that he's wrong instead of debating, insulting and so on?

    This is the Internet. If you publicly talk **** about someone when it's blatantly obvious you're full of ****, you're going to be publicly mocked.

    The only thing embarrassing and sad here is the OP's posts. It's like accusing Hawking or Tyson of faking data when you obviously failed high school physics.
  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    minerk wrote: »
    Welche Reaktion erwartest du eigentlich, wenn du Spieler in der Art und Weise des Betrugs bezichtigst?

    Weder die Videos noch die Logfiles st
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  • sinn74sinn74 Member Posts: 1,149 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Is it wrong that I think the google translations are the best part of this thread? :D
  • urborginurborgin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    sinn74 wrote: »
    Is it wrong that I think the google translations are the best part of this thread? :D

    Definitely not! :D
    The translation is so bad, I'm now sorry that I've been to lazy to translate it myself. ;)
  • therealhassanbtherealhassanb Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    you guys bashing the op are just super mad that someone may have exposed your exploiting. i dont say taht u guys did but seriously how sick and mad is this reaction of yours? you spam someones youtube channel because you feel attacked in your honour? i mean whos the one needing medical assistance. this is just super ridiculous and show what people you dps folks really are.

    you dps channel guys even acknowledged that you were the ones behind the spamming which led to his youtube account getting banned!

    you take this all too much serious and are like super TRIBBLE regarding to your actions u did take.

    i feel very sry for you guys you should get a real life and get some satisfaction in there. this would boost your ego more than doin stupid dps runs, which i dont care about and then threaten ppl to get their youtube accounts banned when they post sth you guys dont like.

    Thats also some kind of harrassment to threaten people and openly acknowledge getting ones youtube accounts banned.

    and i didnt think of ryan sto to actually be such a ******. these actions speak for themselves.
    i am very dissapointed to see such actions taken by people i thought being honest and honourful persons who once had my respect.
    The OP wasnt polite either but considering your actions you took to ban his channel its understandable.
  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited January 2015
    you guys bashing the op are just super mad that someone may have exposed your exploiting. i dont say taht u guys did but seriously how sick and mad is this reaction of yours? you spam someones youtube channel because you feel attacked in your honour? i mean whos the one needing medical assistance. this is just super ridiculous and show what people you dps folks really are.

    you dps channel guys even acknowledged that you were the ones behind the spamming which led to his youtube account getting banned!

    you take this all too much serious and are like super TRIBBLE regarding to your actions u did take.

    i feel very sry for you guys you should get a real life and get some satisfaction in there. this would boost your ego more than doin stupid dps runs, which i dont care about and then threaten ppl to get their youtube accounts banned when they post sth you guys dont like.

    Thats also some kind of harrassment to threaten people and openly acknowledge getting ones youtube accounts banned.

    and i didnt think of ryan sto to actually be such a ******. these actions speak for themselves.
    i am very dissapointed to see such actions taken by people i thought being honest and honourful persons who once had my respect.
    The OP wasnt polite either but considering your actions you took to ban his channel its understandable.

    Here, let me straighten out a few things for you.

    The op is the one who spammed RyanSTO's youtube channel, we spammed nobody's channel.

    We're not taking this seriously at all, if you can't tell.

    And, if you read, the op's youtube channel was banned before we even found about this.

    The only thing that the dps-group is 'guilty of' is laughing at someone who was, well, so far crazy and absurd in his baseless accusations that you couldn't take him seriously.
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  • zero2362zero2362 Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    you guys bashing the op are just super mad that someone may have exposed your exploiting. i dont say taht u guys did but seriously how sick and mad is this reaction of yours? you spam someones youtube channel because you feel attacked in your honour? i mean whos the one needing medical assistance. this is just super ridiculous and show what people you dps folks really are.

    you dps channel guys even acknowledged that you were the ones behind the spamming which led to his youtube account getting banned!

    you take this all too much serious and are like super TRIBBLE regarding to your actions u did take.

    i feel very sry for you guys you should get a real life and get some satisfaction in there. this would boost your ego more than doin stupid dps runs, which i dont care about and then threaten ppl to get their youtube accounts banned when they post sth you guys dont like.

    Thats also some kind of harrassment to threaten people and openly acknowledge getting ones youtube accounts banned.

    oh yes and the dps guys werent the ones spamming. It was the OP. check your facts

    and i didnt think of ryan sto to actually be such a ******. these actions speak for themselves.
    i am very dissapointed to see such actions taken by people i thought being honest and honourful persons who once had my respect.
    The OP wasnt polite either but considering your actions you took to ban his channel its understandable.

    Its obvious the op dosent have a clue what hes talking about. His argument is that the DPS crew used multiple nadeon bomb consoles. This would have no benefit as the consoles would all share a cooldown making it pointless.

    Even if they didn't share a cool down the fact that the console launches six bombs then goes into cool down. and only six bombs were fired over the course of the entire run proves that only one console was used.

    This means that the op has not only made an accusation with no evidence to support it, but also refused to check the evidence provided that proved he was wrong.

    Oh and lets not forget that the OP has violated 2 of the TOS rules by detailing how to perform an exploit and providing the full names of players in the game in an attempt to slander them and he is the one you chose to defend?

    You have some messed up standards

    Oh yeah and the OP was the one spamming Ryans youtube not the other way around. Please check your facts
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  • therealhassanbtherealhassanb Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Here, let me straighten out a few things for you.

    The op is the one who spammed RyanSTO's youtube channel, we spammed nobody's channel.

    We're not taking this seriously at all, if you can't tell.

    And, if you read, the op's youtube channel was banned before we even found about this.

    The only thing that the dps-group is 'guilty of' is laughing at someone who was, well, so far crazy and absurd in his baseless accusations that you couldn't take him seriously.

    From what i read you are twisting the words in your favor.

    you threatened him in a pm that "ryan will just get your account banned agin"

    from my point of view this, together with the fact that you guys knew why the account got banned ( because of spam activities)

    "[1/9 12:14] [DPS-10,000] Jena@sarcasmdetector: it's always awesome when Youtube bans someone for trolling our videos
    [1/9 12:15] [DPS-10,000] Jena@sarcasmdetector: somebody wasn't smart
    [1/9 12:16] [DPS-10,000] Jena@sarcasmdetector: someone wasn't happy with a certain youtubers videos and decided to spam them
    [1/9 12:16] [DPS-10,000] Jena@sarcasmdetector: and ended up getting his account banned"

    ...makes it clear to me that you are behind the ban of his youtube account and threaten him to do it again.

    ive read it all very carefully and this is the objective conclusion i get out of this.

    now explain to me how you dont take this serious?

    explain why you threaten him that you will get his account banned again?

    explain why you seemed to know WHY his youtube channel was being banned.

    this stinks very badly dude.
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