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No Tribble Patch = An Untested Holodeck Patch

js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
The server goes down every Thursday for routine maintenance and a patch that contains tweaks, bug fixes etc. and this is usually preceded by Tribble going down for maintenance a couple of days beforehand.

Whenever this DOESN'T happen it usually implies one of the following:

1) There's an unpopular Nerf coming

Voth BZ dilithium nerf, anyone?

2) There's an unpopular change coming

The totally illogical grind they attached to the Winter Wonderland, for example

3) They're releasing broken content and don't want it mocked before it appears on Holodeck

[insert one of 1000 examples]

4) They think that whatever they've changed has been 100% tested in-house and it won't break
the game

[Again, I could come up with a whole list]

5) They aren't changing anything at all


So which one is more likely this time?
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    js26568 wrote: »
    No Tribble Patch = An Untested Holodeck Patch
    Forget that safe word and bite down on something NOW, WE'RE GOING IN RAW!!! :D
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Nobody tests anything on Tribble, anyway.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Holodeck Server is the Test Server!
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  • rimmarierimmarie Member Posts: 420 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    6) Maybe they don't have a patch ready yet, so there is NOTHING to test?
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    rimmarie wrote: »
    6) Maybe they don't have a patch ready yet, so there is NOTHING to test?

    Actually that's number 5 on my list.
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  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Well, they put the stuff broke on Tribble, and it gets put on Holodeck still broke - as already said, "Holodeck Server is the Test Server!"
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  • thomasp94232thomasp94232 Member Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    It sure would be nice if they would get to work and release this supposed patch to reduce costs once you upgrade/craft a certain item. I am tired of being chained to a single ship because it is too expensive to upgrade the gear for another one!

    Of course it would have been even better if they had actually released a completed upgrade system with DR rather than a TRIBBLE half finished version that makes players spend more currency than they should.

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  • nicha0nicha0 Member Posts: 1,456 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Tribble isn't used to test content or fixes, its used to actually test the patches. If they patch Tribble and the game still runs, its all ok to go to Holodeck.

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  • vivenneanthonyvivenneanthony Member Posts: 1,278 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Holodeck is the test servers. If they can't fix the fix with a fix of a fix. They will just disable it saying it takes to much resources.


    js26568 wrote: »
    The server goes down every Thursday for routine maintenance and a patch that contains tweaks, bug fixes etc. and this is usually preceded by Tribble going down for maintenance a couple of days beforehand.

    Whenever this DOESN'T happen it usually implies one of the following:

    1) There's an unpopular Nerf coming

    Voth BZ dilithium nerf, anyone?

    2) There's an unpopular change coming

    The totally illogical grind they attached to the Winter Wonderland, for example

    3) They're releasing broken content and don't want it mocked before it appears on Holodeck

    [insert one of 1000 examples]

    4) They think that whatever they've changed has been 100% tested in-house and it won't break
    the game

    [Again, I could come up with a whole list]

    5) They aren't changing anything at all


    So which one is more likely this time?
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I'd say something unpopular is coming. That's what the last one was where they refused to post to Tribble. It's a really poor practice. :-/

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  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    gulberat wrote: »
    I'd say something unpopular is coming. That's what the last one was where they refused to post to Tribble. It's a really poor practice. :-/

    No kidding. It's a real shame, there are companies out there who try extremely hard to get more and more customer feedback. Here and to be honest, most of the gaming industry, it's less and less, it's a very bad trend.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    kavase wrote: »
    No kidding. It's a real shame, there are companies out there who try extremely hard to get more and more customer feedback. Here and to be honest, most of the gaming industry, it's less and less, it's a very bad trend.

    Wouldn't put it past them to sneak in another stealth nerf; but, to be fair, they often reboot the servers just for the sake of restarting everything (clearing memory leaks, drained resources, and what not). So, I'm keeping my tinfoil head off for the moment.
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  • kavasekavase Member Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Wouldn't put it past them to sneak in another stealth nerf; but, to be fair, they often reboot the servers just for the sake of restarting everything (clearing memory leaks, drained resources, and what not). So, I'm keeping my tinfoil head off for the moment.

    That's true, it's just that this isn't the first time something like this happened, and it appears(I don't know for sure mind you)that this is starting to happen more often.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I suspect they are really trying to fix the 1000 photo problem for the first year ship for us old timers - and trying to fix the tides of ice. Otherwise neither may Ever get addressed.
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  • ralphgraphiteralphgraphite Member Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    It's quite possible we're getting a "maintenance only" maintenance day again. For most of 2014, the reasoning was development efforts were busy getting ready for X2. That said, X2 is done - so perhaps they're working on an extra big patch for next week, maybe adding some more of the "held back" DR content (surely they didn't mean just one mission when they said that).

    I'm going to keep the torches stowed for now - doesn't necessarily mean unpopular changes.
  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Trying to fix the 1000 bug?

    That's hilarious. Last time reputation system bugged out like that it took them 18 months to fix the ground sets

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  • tarastheslayertarastheslayer Member Posts: 1,541 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2014
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    Nobody tests anything on Tribble, anyway.

    Correction: We do, we just never get listened to :(
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  • rekurzionrekurzion Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    kavase wrote: »
    No kidding. It's a real shame, there are companies out there who try extremely hard to get more and more customer feedback. Here and to be honest, most of the gaming industry, it's less and less, it's a very bad trend.

    While the gaming industry has had its nuts in a ringer lately (as in the last ~5+ years) for low quality standards and questionable releases this is not...by a long shot...a gaming industry problem. While it's a little arrogant to assume Cryptic needs our feedback on every change it is bad practice and very risky to release code changes without proper QA and vetting.

    You usually run 3 server environments...1) Dev, which is a hot mess of constant code changes 2) QA, which is technically supposed to be as close to Production as possible for user testing 3) and Production which of course is the live user environment. To bypass QA means either the code isn't something that would affect gameplay or you've been convinced by management or a time constraint to stealth release something.
  • originalshakkaroriginalshakkar Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I wouldn't be surprised if the holidays were effecting the pace of patches. People take vacations this time of year, and a week or two without any major changes would be fairly normal. Unfortunately it also means the burning issues of the community will also likely not get addressed until next year if they will be at all.
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  • dgdolphdgdolph Member Posts: 592 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    Nobody tests anything on Tribble, anyway.
    Lie. There're a lot of tests, bug reports and suggestions. Cryptic usually just doesn't give a flying f*** for it ;)
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    If we're really, really lucky we'll get a vague post about it in news and announcements. If we're just a little lucky we'll get a vague twitter post. Generally speaking, it's business as usual, meaning transparency takes a backseat to profits for Cryptic and PWE.
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