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Can you please make T5 Ship Traits Account Wide?
errab
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Greetings All,
I was wondering what would be the harm if Cryptic made all T6 max T5 Ship Traits an account wide unlock.
I can see where it might be an issue with Lobi and Lock Box ships but with zen shop vessels there should really be no issue IMO.
The reason that I'm asking for this is that I've unlocked many T5 Ship Traits that are currently only available to a certain faction and other factions have no way to get these traits at all.
I have many Characters from each faction on my account and I'd like to be able to use all the T5 ship traits that I unlock on every level appropriate Character on my account.
Thanks for your Time
I was wondering what would be the harm if Cryptic made all T6 max T5 Ship Traits an account wide unlock.
I can see where it might be an issue with Lobi and Lock Box ships but with zen shop vessels there should really be no issue IMO.
The reason that I'm asking for this is that I've unlocked many T5 Ship Traits that are currently only available to a certain faction and other factions have no way to get these traits at all.
I have many Characters from each faction on my account and I'd like to be able to use all the T5 ship traits that I unlock on every level appropriate Character on my account.
Thanks for your Time
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Account Bound Mastery Suggestion:
As to making the 5th Mastery Account-unlock, I support this insofar as still having to work for it. Instead of just leveling it once and then it's unlocked for all characters, I suggest to encourage players to keep using the ship instead of just dropping it and forgetting it.
For example: I level my Guardian to Rank 5. However, instead of letting the bar stop there, let a second bar appear below it (so that if the "Mastered" code is tied to the bar, it doesn't reset Masteries or anything; it simply opens up a new and separate bar). The XP required to fill it will either be the same as it formerly was getting from 3 to 4, or the rebalanced XP required to get from 4 to 5.
For every completion of that bar, a player gains an account-bound item; for this example, we'll call it: [Holodeck Bridge Training: Guardian - Desperate Repairs]. The in-game idea is that as a master of your ship, you earn the right to record a training simulation of your performance to share with one officer, in this case, an alt. However, to prevent early abuse, the alt in question needs to be level 50 minimum, though personally, level 40 minimum would be ideal, as we're already Admirals by that point. But I won't complain if it's left at 50 minimum to use, given that if implemented, it's already doing us all a great favor.
This way, all objectives would be met. Players can have access to as many starship traits as they're willing to work on, this will encourage repeated use of any T6s every so often, and Cryptic can sell more T6s or Delta Operations Packs. The only losers here would be the lazy or unwilling.
Cryptic releasing a kdf ship? El oh el
But I agree it is a lot of work. What we are looking at doing is something more like the Rep Sponsorship. That is, if you complete starship mastery in, say, the Galaxy Cruiser, all your alts could get a significant increase in progressing through starship mastery in a Galaxy Cruiser.
We still have a lot of investigating to do, but I could see this happening.
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Al "Captain Geko" Rivera
That's a fair compromise and I could live with it. But it doesn't address the disparity between the number of mastery traits Fed characters have access to vs. KDF and Romulans.
I know other players have suggested it, but what about something kind of like the rep sponsorship tokens? Something along the lines where once a players earns their mastery trait they can then earn it again in the form of an account bound item that can grant the trait to an alt?
ship traits need to be cross faction because the feds are always going to have between 5 to 10 times as many tier 6 ships launched as the other factions. how else are your other faction characters going to compete with that? thats always going to be a huge advantage.
maybe you could craft your self a token if you unlock a trait, that you could put in an account bank, to transfer between characters? reuse the tech behind letting alts get through reputations faster if you first completed it with 1.
They can always put them in future lockboxes. After all, it is far cheaper to get a unique console from a Starfleet C-Store ship on the KDF side.
why don't you just change your whine to "I want all my alts to automatically level the same amount as my main"
It keeps the feelings of entitlement out, encourages extended use of T6s, and encourages more T6 sales. The end reward of being able to pass otherwise Faction-specific Masteries to alts would do far more than just stuffing them into Lockboxes or forever denying them.
And it would spark far less of yet another forum war than if Starship Mastery Traits were lockbox bound, like how KDF players ranted over how easy it was for Feds to get Plasmonic Leeches. Except this time around it would be the majority of Fed players ranting about how their special mastery has been made instantly accessible to KDF and Rom players without actually working for it. Not to mention, would be a bigger money loser for Cryptic (30 USD straight for a ship and its trait vs those buying master keys with EC or Dil->Zen, or just buying them straight off the exchange for EC) unless Cryptic makes them character-bind or account-bind on obtainment.
Feds could have 9001 traits...they can still only slot 4. While the number of traits would allow for more varied gameplay across all factions, wouldn't the more pressing concern be that of the quality of the traits themselves rather than the number? Cryptic could give the KDF 9001 more traits and not a one of them might be on par with Reciprocity.
That's not a bad idea, but to be honest the ship mastery aspect of the ships doesn't really need fixing. Its the least broke aspect of DR if such a thing was possible. For example, my T6 Breen Carrier. I was lucky enough to be able to buy it outright on day one. It took maybe 5 hours of play time to get all 5 levels of ship mastery.
IMO that's a reasonable amount of time.
I have noticed that Tactical toons 'seem' develop this faster, regardless of the ship type. Sci characters seem to take forever to level the ship mastery of tac-based ships.
My Two Bits,
Admiral Thrax
Yeah, it's kind of been a confusing thing for me...cause there was the initial reduction that took it from okay (imho) to lol-easy...then they went and reduced it again. At the rate the keep reducing it, lol, we'll buy a ship and be T5 by the time we save the name.
my fear. my kdf and rom need this at least or they are just deeply inferior. that and the dauntless trait, 25% boost to all your hull healing come on. and the random 25k heal guardian trait has been the only thing that has saved me quite a few times in what pvp i've been able to play.
my KDF and rom need these things, period.
Frankly, a system which would benefit from this sort of 'sponsorship' more would be the spec trees... I have 15 alts, only one character has an even half levelled spec tree. It'll take me years to get them all through it thanks to the SP nerf (no matter what you claim; if it looks, smells, and tastes like a nerf... it's a nerf) so a system where either the Spec system is account wide or we at least get some significant discount on the amount of time required to get alts through it would be more beneficial than more adjustments to a system which is already pretty easy to max out. Hell I got two tier 6 ships through all mastery levels without gaining a single damned spec point...
It makes no sense that a Fed ship could use a trait earned on a KDF Raptor or the other way round.
Within factions, yes that seems OK as they would at least be sharing tech and skills.
The lobi/lockbox ships are a bit different as they are available to all sides so skills and tactics from their use could be cross faction.
Also this sort of thing would not affect Fed aligned Romulans or KDF ones either as they can't use T5 or higher ships from their allies anyway.
Also why should all your traits be instantly available to all your alts once once toon grinds them all. Surely the point of them is that it your captain & crew have learnt how to work together and get the best out of their ships, hence they learn the trait. To simply allow it to be slotted on another toon with no work at all makes no sense.
It's like just because you can do a handbrake turn in your car does not mean everyone in your family will instantly know how to do the same without putting in the effort and learning how to do it.
Indeed but at this point in the introduction of mastery traits there is a quantity problem. With fewer T6 ships there's fewer choices that can be made between relevant traits to a given build and one situation that I myself am faced with is empty spaces and some desire just to fill them with something useful, never mind if they're on par with the FED's better traits. In the long term this situation is going to be helped by more specialization traits and less niche-specific T6 event ships but in the short term the KDF and RR are simply hurting for choice. It would help if they recieved more c-store T6 ships (and of course it would help even more if those traits were on par with Reciprocity.)
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This would be great, then i finally will have some use of my alts again !!
The bigger problem, as some other have mentioned, is that RR and KDF players don't have access to enough traits.
I was hoping the Breen trait would be useful, but since I don't fly a ship with a hanger...
But I doubt Cryptic would ever implement it. Because that would make many of us far too OP. And then they would have to figure out how to Nerf the TRIBBLE out of those same T6 Traits.
Still my few Romulan characters would love having a trait that was something besides "Lets run away and hide"...:rolleyes:
So what is needed is some way of getting say 'reciprocity' on a KDF char. The actual speed of leveling a ship is minimal, dare I say negligeable. Of all that can be considered a grind, it is the least grindy.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
Not that I'm against this, but it's unnecessary TBH. I can do 2 or 3 (at the most) runs in Starbase 24 and get full starship mastery.