I'm not demanding the devs to lift the factional uniform restricts immediately.
I'm asking why the current restrictions are in place, other than for arbitrary lore reasons - does lifting the restrictions now diminsh other players' enjoyment, or adversely affect future plans for monetization?
Hence my request for an official answer.
arbitrary (adj) - based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
Outside of there being a logical reason and a consistent system, definitely. :rolleyes:
It's one thing to say it's stupid, it's another to say it's arbitrary.
Tom goes outside with Jerry. Tom says, "Rain sucks." Jerry says, "I like the rain." Tom says, "Oh well, people can like and dislike different things." Jerry says, "Yes, yes they do."
Tom goes outside with Jerry. Tom says, "I hate this rain." Jerry looks around, there's not a cloud in the sky nor a drop of rain, and says, "It's not raining." Tom says, "Yes, it is." Jerry having received a warning about not replying to trolls from Spike walks away.
Outside of there being a logical reason and a consistent system, definitely. :rolleyes:
It's one thing to say it's stupid, it's another to say it's arbitrary.
Tom goes outside with Jerry. Tom says, "Rain sucks." Jerry says, "I like the rain." Tom says, "Oh well, people can like and dislike different things." Jerry says, "Yes, yes they do."
Tom goes outside with Jerry. Tom says, "I hate this rain." Jerry looks around, there's not a cloud in the sky nor a drop of rain, and says, "It's not raining." Tom says, "Yes, it is." Jerry having received a warning about not replying to trolls from Spike walks away.
Please stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking today, it's having negative effects.
I'm not demanding the devs to lift the factional uniform restricts immediately.
I'm asking why the current restrictions are in place, other than for arbitrary lore reasons - does lifting the restrictions now diminsh other players' enjoyment, or adversely affect future plans for monetization?
Hence my request for an official answer.
To get in on the language issue, LOL, If by 'arbitrary' you meant 'They just picked a random lore reason,' then your use of 'arbitrary' is still correct (= there being no reason to pick a random reason from within the meta-reason of restricting it because of lore).
Anyway, I am already happy my Boffs (I had to tailor 30+ of them, yikes!) have their extremities intact again.
Actually, I'm not even sure it's lore (I'd rather call it canon, btw). They've pretty much always restricted special boffs (like photonic one, for instance).
Personally, I see no reason why Rom Embassy boffs shouldn't be able to wear Fed uniforms; that's like saying Worf can't either.
If anyone's interested I may have found a work-around to the problem of uniform pieces having shared/linked colour palettes/selections.
To get around this problem what I did was:
1. Logged onto my Romulan character
2. Went to the Tailor at New Romulus Command
3. Selected one of that character's Romulan Republic BOffs
4. Created the uniform (pieces/colours) I wanted for my Embassy BOffs on my other character
5. Saved the outfit
6. Canceled the changes to that BOffs appearance
7. Exited the Tailor
8. Switched Character to the Character with the Embassy BOff
9. Went to the Tailor at ESD
10. Selected the Embassy BOff I wanted to customise
11. Selected Load Outfit
12. Ticked 'Outfit Only'
13. Loaded the Outfit I saved in Step 5
14. Success! My Embassy BOff now had the uniform pieces I wanted and in the colours I wanted!
For the above I only used uniform pieces that were available to the Embassy BOffs I have not tried or tested loading a uniform with pieces not available however I would assume this wouldn't work properly!
I'm not demanding the devs to lift the factional uniform restricts immediately.
I'm asking why the current restrictions are in place, other than for arbitrary lore reasons - does lifting the restrictions now diminsh other players' enjoyment, or adversely affect future plans for monetization?
Hence my request for an official answer.
I've always said a nice compromise would be to extend captain faction combadges as an unlock for non-faction BOs.
There are maybe close to a dozen examples of non-Starfleet officers serving aboard Starfleet ships who got AT LEAST a matching combadge for the duration of their service including Wesley Crusher, a KDF exchange officer, Neelix, Kes, Seven of Nine, Garak (when he was assigned to a station on the Defiant) etc.
Actually, mine were changed. They were hairless, browless, and had generic civilian attire.
And I'm a bit disappointed that standard RRF uniforms cannon be used.
Fortunately, there are ways to make them look like RRF personnel. Or closer to it, at least.
I too am diappointment that the standard uniforms cannot be used. I think it is weird that the republic dress uniform is an option though, but not the standard uniforms. I am very happy the veteran uniforms are usable, so I can at least make them look like officers rather than random civillians that I got assigned to my crew, but would love more options.
I can live without them having access to starfleet/klingon uniforms, but it would be nice if they had access to the starfleet and klingon alligned romulan uniforms.
I too am diappointment that the standard uniforms cannot be used. I think it is weird that the republic dress uniform is an option though, but not the standard uniforms. I am very happy the veteran uniforms are usable, so I can at least make them look like officers rather than random civillians that I got assigned to my crew, but would love more options.
I can live without them having access to starfleet/klingon uniforms, but it would be nice if they had access to the starfleet and klingon alligned romulan uniforms.
That would be nice but if missing RR uniforms isn't just an oversight I can see some justification behind it.
Are these necessarily republic officers?
If yes then give them all their appropriate options. If no, well what we have does suit them. Its a fairly arbitrary decision (yes/no, one of which gives us better customization options) but it is a creative choice. If someone feels strongly enough about that then we might be left with less.
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I would love to see the Tal Shiar uniform for my Romulan Boffs, my Romulan Chars got them during that mission (forgot the name) but since the Romulan Campaign isn´t available for Fed players, i can´t get them.
And really, i don´t care so much about any other Starfleet uniform Available for the Romulans but at least the Mirror Universe and the current Odyssey should be.
Bought the odyssey from the fleet Starbase, the Boffs from the Fleet Embasssy so...
And about that: All of you who seay, they are jusst exchange BOffs and are not Starflet personell or those who sey that in Real life, during joint operations every Member keeps wearing his nations Uniform:
You don´t buy people in real life. Thats most certainly illegal ;-)
I've always said a nice compromise would be to extend captain faction combadges as an unlock for non-faction BOs.
There are maybe close to a dozen examples of non-Starfleet officers serving aboard Starfleet ships who got AT LEAST a matching combadge for the duration of their service including Wesley Crusher, a KDF exchange officer, Neelix, Kes, Seven of Nine, Garak (when he was assigned to a station on the Defiant) etc.
Would be nice...or least they can design some type of com badge for Romulans...it's silly that Fed aligned Romulans tap a non existent com badge to beam up.
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I've always said a nice compromise would be to extend captain faction combadges as an unlock for non-faction BOs.
There are maybe close to a dozen examples of non-Starfleet officers serving aboard Starfleet ships who got AT LEAST a matching combadge for the duration of their service including Wesley Crusher, a KDF exchange officer, Neelix, Kes, Seven of Nine, Garak (when he was assigned to a station on the Defiant) etc.
Yes, agreed. I can understand if they draw the line on not letting them into Starfleet uniforms but a combadge is nonsense. Its been seen in the show so many times they have no excuse at all. I don't mind the idea of having Neelix or Seven style characters who aren't Starfleet, aren't in uniform but they are on my ship and likely serving a function.
They should (and would, as seen in canon) be issued a combadge.
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Well good luck with that.
arbitrary (adj) - based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
It doesn't mean what you think it does.
And that is exactly what this restriction is.
Outside of there being a logical reason and a consistent system, definitely. :rolleyes:
It's one thing to say it's stupid, it's another to say it's arbitrary.
Tom goes outside with Jerry. Tom says, "Rain sucks." Jerry says, "I like the rain." Tom says, "Oh well, people can like and dislike different things." Jerry says, "Yes, yes they do."
Tom goes outside with Jerry. Tom says, "I hate this rain." Jerry looks around, there's not a cloud in the sky nor a drop of rain, and says, "It's not raining." Tom says, "Yes, it is." Jerry having received a warning about not replying to trolls from Spike walks away.
Please stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking today, it's having negative effects.
To get in on the language issue, LOL, If by 'arbitrary' you meant 'They just picked a random lore reason,' then your use of 'arbitrary' is still correct (= there being no reason to pick a random reason from within the meta-reason of restricting it because of lore).
Anyway, I am already happy my Boffs (I had to tailor 30+ of them, yikes!) have their extremities intact again.
Actually, I'm not even sure it's lore (I'd rather call it canon, btw). They've pretty much always restricted special boffs (like photonic one, for instance).
Personally, I see no reason why Rom Embassy boffs shouldn't be able to wear Fed uniforms; that's like saying Worf can't either.
(And yes, I relogged)
To get around this problem what I did was:
1. Logged onto my Romulan character
2. Went to the Tailor at New Romulus Command
3. Selected one of that character's Romulan Republic BOffs
4. Created the uniform (pieces/colours) I wanted for my Embassy BOffs on my other character
5. Saved the outfit
6. Canceled the changes to that BOffs appearance
7. Exited the Tailor
8. Switched Character to the Character with the Embassy BOff
9. Went to the Tailor at ESD
10. Selected the Embassy BOff I wanted to customise
11. Selected Load Outfit
12. Ticked 'Outfit Only'
13. Loaded the Outfit I saved in Step 5
14. Success! My Embassy BOff now had the uniform pieces I wanted and in the colours I wanted!
For the above I only used uniform pieces that were available to the Embassy BOffs I have not tried or tested loading a uniform with pieces not available however I would assume this wouldn't work properly!
Actually, mine were changed. They were hairless, browless, and had generic civilian attire.
And I'm a bit disappointed that standard RRF uniforms cannon be used.
Fortunately, there are ways to make them look like RRF personnel. Or closer to it, at least.
I've always said a nice compromise would be to extend captain faction combadges as an unlock for non-faction BOs.
There are maybe close to a dozen examples of non-Starfleet officers serving aboard Starfleet ships who got AT LEAST a matching combadge for the duration of their service including Wesley Crusher, a KDF exchange officer, Neelix, Kes, Seven of Nine, Garak (when he was assigned to a station on the Defiant) etc.
I too am diappointment that the standard uniforms cannot be used. I think it is weird that the republic dress uniform is an option though, but not the standard uniforms. I am very happy the veteran uniforms are usable, so I can at least make them look like officers rather than random civillians that I got assigned to my crew, but would love more options.
I can live without them having access to starfleet/klingon uniforms, but it would be nice if they had access to the starfleet and klingon alligned romulan uniforms.
That would be nice but if missing RR uniforms isn't just an oversight I can see some justification behind it.
Are these necessarily republic officers?
If yes then give them all their appropriate options. If no, well what we have does suit them. Its a fairly arbitrary decision (yes/no, one of which gives us better customization options) but it is a creative choice. If someone feels strongly enough about that then we might be left with less.
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And really, i don´t care so much about any other Starfleet uniform Available for the Romulans but at least the Mirror Universe and the current Odyssey should be.
Bought the odyssey from the fleet Starbase, the Boffs from the Fleet Embasssy so...
And about that: All of you who seay, they are jusst exchange BOffs and are not Starflet personell or those who sey that in Real life, during joint operations every Member keeps wearing his nations Uniform:
You don´t buy people in real life. Thats most certainly illegal ;-)
Would be nice...or least they can design some type of com badge for Romulans...it's silly that Fed aligned Romulans tap a non existent com badge to beam up.
Yes, agreed. I can understand if they draw the line on not letting them into Starfleet uniforms but a combadge is nonsense. Its been seen in the show so many times they have no excuse at all. I don't mind the idea of having Neelix or Seven style characters who aren't Starfleet, aren't in uniform but they are on my ship and likely serving a function.
They should (and would, as seen in canon) be issued a combadge.