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Lt. VanDerveer

wolfieebryanwolfieebryan Member Posts: 42 Arc User
edited December 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
[NPC] Lt. VanDerveer: For the Buenos Aires!
[NPC] Lt. VanDerveer: The only good bug is a dead bug.

That's copyright infringement right? From Starship Troppers?
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  • fudgemonkfudgemonk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    No that's called a homage.
  • bravecatherinebravecatherine Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Great movie and here is "The Heroic Death of Pvt Sugar Watkins"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha4Nvw4YFls:o
  • hippiejonhippiejon Member Posts: 1,581 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    fudgemonk wrote: »
    No that's called a homage.

    No.

    Gasko Blues was what you call an homage.

    Bug Hunt is a blatant and artless rip-off of Starship Troopers.


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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    hippiejon wrote: »
    No.

    Gasko Blues was what you call an homage.

    Bug Hunt is a blatant and artless rip-off of Starship Troopers.


    -Peace-
    Hippie

    fudgemonk the hippie is right Bug Hunt is a downright rip off of starship troopers
  • fudgemonkfudgemonk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Well if it went to court they would lose, if you like the mission or not. ;)
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    fudgemonk wrote: »
    Well if it went to court they would lose, if you like the mission or not. ;)

    Homage is like Tobol at gasko

    its close but not quite lobot

    bug hunt is just an obvious rip off even the phrases said are rip offs
  • fudgemonkfudgemonk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Ok it's a rip off. :D
  • hippiejonhippiejon Member Posts: 1,581 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    fudgemonk wrote: »
    Well if it went to court they would lose, if you like the mission or not. ;)

    For sure.
    And I do enjoy the mission actually.

    I'm just not the sort of person to watch them produce something that is a BLATANT rip off of someone else's work (fun or not) and not call them out on it. While fun, BUG HUNT is a creatively bankrupt, artless piece of stealing something from another IP and not even trying to go the extra step to make it an homage.

    Homage is something like Gasko Blues, an obvious take/snarky send up of the Cloud City Scenes from Empire Strikes Back. But it was done artfully, with a sense of snarkiness, and didn't lift elements and dialog DIRECTLY from the source material.

    Just my opinion.


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    Hippie
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    there are little NPCs and lines all through STO this one is nothing special

    and some are so obscure no one get them, like the rom episode where you have to rescue the fed taken captive. she gives her serial as 24601.. a rare reference indeed
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited December 2014
    It's a case of parody. How funny it is? That's subjective.

    But you guys would have a stroke with WoW where they have Scooty, Smiles O'Byron, and Jordy Lapforge running transporter pads, along with engineers Trep and Nogg. A character named Lenny McCoy is running around as a combo reference to Leonard McCoy and Lennie Briscoe and Jack McCoy from Law & Order. And a transporter accident can give you a debuff that says "You have been replaced by your evil twin."

    I still think it's funny that they have transporter accidents as a feature in a fantasy game and we have no transporter malfunctions, holodeck malfunctions, etc. here.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    It's parody, and it's hilarious.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    there are little NPCs and lines all through STO this one is nothing special

    and some are so obscure no one get them, like the rom episode where you have to rescue the fed taken captive. she gives her serial as 24601.. a rare reference indeed

    I believe it is from a Simpsons episode.
  • hippiejonhippiejon Member Posts: 1,581 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I guess it just comes down to, after seeing them do homage and parody the right way more than a couple times, seeing something as blatant and unoriginal as BUG HUNT, fun or not, just rubs me the wrong way.
  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    hippiejon wrote: »
    No.

    Gasko Blues was what you call an homage.

    Bug Hunt is a blatant and artless rip-off of Starship Troopers.


    -Peace-
    Hippie

    Settle down,. Francis.


    Star Trak steals alot of stuff, but this was a nice shout out. Kinda fun.
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    The bug hunt troopers references was one of the few funny things they have done lately. Why complain about what works. Complain about the terrible actual writing in general. :)

    Or the Pixar Rip off yeti in the winter stuffs.
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  • hippiejonhippiejon Member Posts: 1,581 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    welcome2earf wrote: »
    Settle down,. Francis.


    Star Trak steals alot of stuff, but this was a nice shout out. Kinda fun.

    Haven't said, it's not fun. Just saying that compared to the homage and parody that the team at Cryptic have done in the past, this mission is artless, and shameless in it's rip off. I still think it's fun to play.

    Of note, I am quite settled and calm, enjoying my tea. Also, my name is not Francis :)


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    Hippie
  • brantregarebrantregare Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    hippiejon wrote: »
    No.

    Gasko Blues was what you call an homage.

    Bug Hunt is a blatant and artless rip-off of Starship Troopers.


    -Peace-
    Hippie

    Except the bugs in Starship Troopers were a lot better looking and would be more fun to fight I think. LOL
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  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,698 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    I believe it is from a Simpsons episode.

    actually, 24601 is jean Valjean's prisoner number from Victor Hugo's Les Miserables.

    (only reason Vetteguy knows it is I got him to take me to see the play)

    EDIT. you are also correct. the simpsons used it in an episode where Sideshow Bob was featured. it was HIS prisoner number.
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  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    is this a stand-up fight sir, or another bug hunt ????
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    wolfieebryan wrote: »
    [NPC] Lt. VanDerveer: For the Buenos Aires!
    [NPC] Lt. VanDerveer: The only good bug is a dead bug.

    That's copyright infringement right? From Starship Troppers?

    Let's not forget he also served on the USS Buenos Aires.
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  • humblesheephumblesheep Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    jorantomalak wrote: »
    fudgemonk the hippie is right Bug Hunt is a downright rip off of starship troopers

    Don't forget Hicks said it in Aliens, which predates Starship Troopers (and I'm pretty sure it wasn't said in Heinlein's book).

    Not that it actually matters; I like to see homage’s.
  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    hippiejon wrote: »
    No.

    Gasko Blues was what you call an homage.

    Bug Hunt is a blatant and artless rip-off of Starship Troopers.


    -Peace-
    Hippie

    Yes it is but unfortunately the only new thing added in that whole new „expansion“ I could imagine playing in the long run.

    It’s also be the only thing added by DR which I consider fun and not something forced upon me and “I have to get used to” from now on.
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