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  • theredcomettheredcomet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Just more ships for diversty's sake heck.
    The fed roster is bloated and has everything uniquely KDF/romulan sans battlecloak...
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    potasssium wrote: »
    4/2, EBC science Vessel, with

    Commander Sci/Int hybrid,
    LTC Sci
    LTC Eng
    LT Tact/Intel hybrid
    LT universal.

    Sensor Analysys, and subsystem targeting.

    In style similar to the Think like a Faeht, but smaller, with a tighter wingspan.

    With a similar vessel for the KDF, except Ltcmdr Tact, and lt Eng/Intel hybrid for theirs.

    Basically a improved Scryer? I doubt that would happen to be honest plus you're a little boff heavy....plus I assume with a 4/2 you want cannons? Which are rather pointless with such low boff seating. (Realistically the Universal would only be a ensign.)
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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    *clears throat*

    Advanced Reconnaissance Warbird

    4/2 weapons

    Cmdr Sci
    Lt. Cmdr Tac
    Lt. Cmdr Sci/Intel
    Lt. Eng
    Lt. Tac

    Sensor Analysis, Subsystem Targeting.

    For design, imagine a Great Blue Heron in flight. Big deflector there the neck on the living bird is folded, small secondary on a raised pod either at the end of the trailing "legs" or between the upturned wings. About the same size as the Daeinos.
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    roms want for nothing.
    what they really need is a push into the airlock.
  • royalsovereignroyalsovereign Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    roms want for nothing.
    what they really need is a push into the airlock.
    Precisely where all my klinks go. *eyeroll*
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    jexsamx wrote: »
    *clears throat*

    Advanced Reconnaissance Warbird

    4/2 weapons

    Cmdr Sci
    Lt. Cmdr Tac
    Lt. Cmdr Sci/Intel
    Lt. Eng
    Lt. Tac

    Sensor Analysis, Subsystem Targeting.

    For design, imagine a Great Blue Heron in flight. Big deflector there the neck on the living bird is folded, small secondary on a raised pod either at the end of the trailing "legs" or between the upturned wings. About the same size as the Daeinos.

    Another OP ship...really going to make Cyrptic make those ships! :rolleyes:
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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Another OP ship

    I don't see how you can claim that setup to be OP without further information on its stats, like turn rate, shield mod, console layout, and hull. :\

    Though considering it's a warbird, and considering I can't think of a single warbird that gets a class-specific feature like cruiser commands or sensor analysis (I could be wrong, I'm not intimately familiar with ships that aren't the Daeinos), I guess dropping Subsys Targeting and Sen. Analysis would be prudent.

    The Lt. Cmdr Intel stays, though I'd be okay with switching the Sci/Intel for Tac/Intel.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,965 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    jexsamx wrote: »
    I don't see how you can claim that setup to be OP without further information on its stats, like turn rate, shield mod, console layout, and hull. :\

    Though considering it's a warbird, and considering I can't think of a single warbird that gets a class-specific feature like cruiser commands or sensor analysis (I could be wrong, I'm not intimately familiar with ships that aren't the Daeinos), I guess dropping Subsys Targeting and Sen. Analysis would be prudent.

    The Lt. Cmdr Intel stays, though I'd be okay with switching the Sci/Intel for Tac/Intel.

    Some of them do get non-warbird class features. While the D'deridex and Ha'apax don't get cruiser commands, the Ha'nom (the only actual science vessel the Romulans have, poor as it might be) does get sensor analysis and subsystem targeting. And I think modes are a destroyer-specific feature, which the Daeinos and Dysons get.

    The warbird battlecruisers seem to be the odd man out, actually, in getting neither cruiser commands nor any bonuses in MI.
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,896 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    jexsamx wrote: »
    I don't see how you can claim that setup to be OP without further information on its stats, like turn rate, shield mod, console layout, and hull. :\

    Though considering it's a warbird, and considering I can't think of a single warbird that gets a class-specific feature like cruiser commands or sensor analysis (I could be wrong, I'm not intimately familiar with ships that aren't the Daeinos), I guess dropping Subsys Targeting and Sen. Analysis would be prudent.

    The Lt. Cmdr Intel stays, though I'd be okay with switching the Sci/Intel for Tac/Intel.

    Simple...the boff layout...first off there is only like one ship besides the Intel ships that have above a LT Intel slot...second there is no ship in the game with two Lt Cmdrs and two Lts.

    So I suppose further into...will this ship have a turn rate of 5? Well not going to be able to take advantage of that 4/2 with such a slow turn rate.
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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Simple...the boff layout...first off there is only like one ship besides the Intel ships that have above a LT Intel slot...second there is no ship in the game with two Lt Cmdrs and two Lts.

    So I suppose further into...will this ship have a turn rate of 5? Well not going to be able to take advantage of that 4/2 with such a slow turn rate.

    *slaps forehead*

    You're right, I goofed the BOff layout. Drop the Lt. Eng for an Ensign Eng, then.

    As for the Lt. Cmdr Intel, my logic is thus. First, there are, to my knowledge, no ships whatsoever with a Lt. Cmdr Intel seat, and for no discernible reason. I don't see why other ships can't have one, so long as it has no other hybrid seats and Cmdr seats remain Intel ship exclusive. And secondly, thematically, Recon is intelligence gathering, so an Intel seat makes sense. I can't think of a valid balance-related reason not to, so there's that too.

    As for turn rate, yes, being a Science ship, it would suffer a bit and not be able to tryhard minmax on cannons. That said, Rom Battle Cloak SRO decloak alpha would still be formiddable, especially since this baby could carry some serious CC and Surgical Strikes, so I'd imagine a somewhat sub-par turn rate wouldn't cause it to suffer too much.
  • theredcomettheredcomet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/romulan_data.php?filter=All

    Plenty of inspiration to draw upon visually.
  • ghyudtghyudt Member Posts: 1,112 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Romulans have a 5/3 warbird, with secondary shields, battle cloak, ability to fire while cloaked, and singularity abilities. Not to mention the special consoles. And all romulan ships have the singularity powers. There's no need for another 5/3, or even a 5/2 ship. You're plenty powerful already.
  • theredcomettheredcomet Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    ghyudt wrote: »
    Romulans have a 5/3 warbird, with secondary shields, battle cloak, ability to fire while cloaked, and singularity abilities. Not to mention the special consoles. And all romulan ships have the singularity powers. There's no need for another 5/3, or even a 5/2 ship. You're plenty powerful already.

    -One ship- that costs 50$ to equip all those consoles you spoke of compared to say the bloated federation roster that can do pretty much everything the same or better sans battlecloak. (which really isn't needed given the t6 traits the feds have)

    Just flying something different without going cross-faction would be nice.
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