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Its a simple question....
My the last 2 patches messed up my launcher, this last time i had to uninstall the game in order to download the expansion.
Nothing they sell is guaranteed...no support other then people tellng u to shut up and go away....does this happen to anyone else or is this just attacks on me?
http://adventure-cat.deviantart.com/art/Why-497856068 <-the Kittyprize nerfed
http://adventure-cat.deviantart.com/art/CatStar-s-signature-weapon-is-EPIC-497738822 <- CatStars sword upgraded...
http://adventure-cat.deviantart.com/art/Brutally-Nerfed-2nd-day-T-T-497851083 <- then nerfed
i still cant label any of my cats uniforms, all of the gear i bought and upgraded was nerfed even for my BoFFs. things i bought from the cstore that where supposed to be unlocked forever, i have to rebuy again. i think a valid explanation is a justified request...are u willing to give one? im not asking for a refund and i already know u will refuse to fix anything, i just wanna know why? during all these years, why would u continue to treat us like this?? ...or have u already reply with a thorned wall of silence?
My the last 2 patches messed up my launcher, this last time i had to uninstall the game in order to download the expansion.
Nothing they sell is guaranteed...no support other then people tellng u to shut up and go away....does this happen to anyone else or is this just attacks on me?http://adventure-cat.deviantart.com/art/Why-497856068 <-the Kittyprize nerfed
http://adventure-cat.deviantart.com/art/CatStar-s-signature-weapon-is-EPIC-497738822 <- CatStars sword upgraded...
http://adventure-cat.deviantart.com/art/Brutally-Nerfed-2nd-day-T-T-497851083 <- then nerfed
i still cant label any of my cats uniforms, all of the gear i bought and upgraded was nerfed even for my BoFFs. things i bought from the cstore that where supposed to be unlocked forever, i have to rebuy again. i think a valid explanation is a justified request...are u willing to give one? im not asking for a refund and i already know u will refuse to fix anything, i just wanna know why? during all these years, why would u continue to treat us like this?? ...or have u already reply with a thorned wall of silence?
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You spend 2 million ec and 200,000 dil to get an EPIC Tegolar Sword Mk IV? I'm still trying to wrap my brain around that one.
OUCH - but a drop from 170 dps to 109 dps (hell, I have blue swords that do more...), that's just complete and utter felgercarb.
my maco set was upgraded too that was included inthat price, it droped down as well...just for kicks i tested to see what an upgraded retro phaser would give me (no didnt upgrade it) it went to 5 damage..so its built in and not a glitch
i tecnicaly get free dil every month by changing the 500 zen
Sorry, Johnny. It's just business.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
lol well i guess u got me there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RviRADnyFPs
i guess Geko was right...i fell for that one =U.U=
And I raise you a King.
lol, leveling Delta Rising: "...u will not enjoy this...this will not be over quickly!" ..and so i walk back to SWTOR, to wait for next months zen..
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Yup, this is why I quit playing my toon Luna. Her gear looked like it was nerfed, and I began to get frustrated with the game. So I started a Romulan. But this makes sense now, I should have guessed a bug instead of a nerf. Good call!
lolz, you can be as Shakespearean as Patrick Stewart! The world isn't all hugs and fuzzys, but there's always a reason to smile hiding around the corner!
"Where monsters rampage, I'm there to take them down! Where treasure glitters, I'm there to claim it! Where an enemy rises to face me, victory will be mine!" -Lina Inverse
This is one of the many reasons i dont play STO cryptic has thier heads crammed up thier behinds so deep that even vasoline and the jaws of life couldnt remove thier heads from thier butts.
...and Luna, im not doing it for drama! its sad but u just get used to em acting that way and it makes u expect the worst...so how am i supposed to know if its a from the horde of STO bugs or one of their cruel nerfs?
You've become very cynical about the game, don't let it's flaws ruin your fun! The way the game is setup for us right now, leveling isn't important, you can obtain the end game gear you require before you begin to level, and go about your day.
I myself wish to see more of the new story, but it's a total Black Friday of patrols to get to the next cut-scene. I will finish leveling some day, and toss the ring in the lava! rofl
http://luna-devi.deviantart.com/art/That-moment-when-496236074
"Where monsters rampage, I'm there to take them down! Where treasure glitters, I'm there to claim it! Where an enemy rises to face me, victory will be mine!" -Lina Inverse
You can ask me in the future :P.
i tried it out the other day and it was now 153 dps, its not 109 now...but its not 170 ether. u think they figured my initial dps was too high despite the investment i put into it??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gICZ1Bp0Qus
i think this is the first game ive ever seen where the player base has to fear if they will get to keep what they earned and bought, it makes me wonder ...did they go silent out of shame or that figure themselves too good to relate to us anymore?
Just in case the question wasn't rhetorical.
I don't have to fear anything. Fear and paranoia is easily remedied by knowledge and research. Both of these things are free.
Maybe they are just busy working.
If the items where free I wouldnt complain...but i guess knowledge that they will take it back, plus research of their history of this and your point is taken..its not paranoia is their M.O.
i thought that at first too...
i think Thulsa Doom said it best, its flesh not steel thats the real power...look at what power over people can do in places like Ferguson...then think of the leader of the panthers declaration of war following it http://youtu.be/97Y9FjtQ5Wc?t=3m46s lets hope this wasnt designed to declare martial law before our presidents term is over with...
...your right, i got slammed hard, panicked and made things worse.
u would think id be used to it by now, but it still surprised me. before i could explain my question i fell into the spiderweb and got tangled up. =X.X=
...but i didnt walk away empty handed i came away a lot wiser about those involved in that thread, especially myself...sry for breaking the rules again askray ^^;
Honest question:
If you two are truly siblings as claimed in the past, shouldn't you two be having this sort of conversation privately? Or at least, over the phone? Why go through the trouble of publicly posting back and forth responses to each other?
What, you mean actually talk to each other? Do people still do that?
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon
mind your own business our tension isnt ur concern in or out of the game! u have no reason to bring it up but only to cause trouble, maybe the real problem is issues u havent dealt with yet...its been a long time id moved on fromur unpleasant welcome to the sto forums, are u here to see me off now?
edit: u know what, dont bother theres no reason for me to be here anyways. these forums have only been the main source of my frustration since i started to post on em, i think the most of my issues with this game came form taking part in em to begin with so im done here. live a good life sumgai learn to be nice to people
My observation is that whenever you feel a thread isn't necessarily going in the desired direction, "luna" makes a post that essentially reiterates the exact same point you have made.
If tensions in your family aren't anyone's concern, then why did you and "luna" specifically make these exchanges public of all to see?
Do tell.
In the two prior exchanges between you and I:
- I merely pointed out that background music on websites is unprofessional and can drive visitors away from spending time visiting your blog. You reacted by claiming it was a personal attack, and apparently took down your own website out of your own volition.
- I also pointed out that different fleets have different structures / organizational policies depending on their needs, and that no method is necessarily superior to another. "luna"'s response was to insult my fleet, and claim that my fleet was inferior to hers merely because my fleet adopted policies different to that specified by your model (I'm merely a member of said fleet, and so have no influence on its administrative policies).
Other than my curiosity with regards to the quick appearance of "luna" whenever "catstar" has a thread that does not proceed in the desired direction, I hold no ill will against you.
Goodbye or I quit threads tend to be meaningless on the STO forums, so I gain nothing from "seeing someone off" over the internet.
Again, I'm merely asking a question with no emotional attachment.
While it's true that recent controversial decisions in the game's development have caused the community to be more apprehensive, there are certainly still a few diamonds in the rough, if one knows where to find them.
Same to you.
While I may not agree with you on certain things, that does not automatically equate to "not being nice".
When I criticize your use of website background music, I quoted actual references to show you that by making a small compromise, you can retain website visitors for longer and more frequent return visits.
When I criticize your model of a "structured" fleet with specialized departments for every conceivable aspect of gameplay in STO, I'm simply pointing out that different things work for different fleet cultures, and that no model is intrinsically "better" than any other.
As for the original topic at hand -
Digital content, especially in a MMO, is often subject to change. When one spends real money, one pays for the right to access the particular service for as long as it is available, not to own the intangible digital goods outright for perpetuity. If STO shut down tomorrow, the only thing any of us would own are the memories and the fan art we've made.
If you feel that your gear / loadout has been adversely affected by the recent changes, either ask the devs politely for an official explanation in terms of the game's overall strategy, or adapt your playstyle in a way that causes you to be the least affected by similar changes in the future.
There's a healthy continuum between completely agreeing with the game's direction and ragequitting; one simply has to find it.
There are also priorities. Apparently, getting club 47 up and running was far more important than your boffs, or balancing the game. These attacks aren't directed at you personally. People are just sick and tired of seeing the same complaint thread pop up over and over. Especially when its based around only that person (for example, winter scarf threads. I don't give a **** if you can't use it, there are far more important things that need to be fixed.)
@Sumghai Aren't you that paranoid dude who always think Catstar and Luna are the same people lol?
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Luna is a good sister and I would not be a good friend if I were not to stand up for Catstar/Adventure Cat/TC also, most of his points are valid even if he jumps the gun on a few. Bugs or Nerf are still wrong.
This allows them to do whatever they want with no customer input, and try as they might boycotts have small effect on these businesses, as all the money (or at least some) comes from the shareholders....
Businesses without shareholders are true businesses, and thus operate according to the customer's whims
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