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Looking for PVP videos

mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
edited December 2014 in PvP Gameplay
I'm interested in really old PVP videos (pre-S1.2 (June 2010), i.e. before the big ability changes). I'd appreciate any links.

(And if you happen to have old pvp log files from that era, I'm interested in those as well.)
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  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mancom wrote: »
    I'm interested in really old PVP videos (pre-S1.2 (June 2010), i.e. before the big ability changes). I'd appreciate any links.

    (And if you happen to have old pvp log files from that era, I'm interested in those as well.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V73sZoWHqjg pvp

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iha-OcoWeZc pve

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEOM8T1n7bs pve

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuXs1R6CMl4 pvp (upload is july 2010)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA-iUZSPrTU end of beta big pvp/devs as borg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybWfk2zlrUc pve

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enQgjfw-Ekg pve

    Just finding published videos from that time frame is sort of dire.

    So there's PVE in the mix. Maybe something useful there.
  • mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Thanks a lot.


    Searching youtube for "DOB pvp" results in several pre-S1.2 pvp videos. Some are quite one-sided, others are more balanced: D.O.B. - LORE

    I also found this video which is S1.2 (so not quite as old as I originally wanted), but nevertheless is so good that I have to link it here: S1.2 farewell tournament, July 24th 2010
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  • freenos85freenos85 Member Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mancom wrote: »
    D.O.B. - LORE

    This is what the professional scene has been like in those days? Looks so much better than the overly accelerated gameplay we've got now. A lot more methodical. No ship turning on a dime. No one shot kills, being constantly disabled or thoroughly spammed with clicky TRIBBLE. Man ... that makes you wonder. Do STO's designer ever sit back and look at what they have done to the game? Not just on a patch by patch basis though. It's so easy to dismiss small increments of change, but this just shows you how much the game has changed over the years. It really looked like trek battles in the beforetime. :(
  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    freenos85 wrote: »
    This is what the professional scene has been like in those days? Looks so much better than the overly accelerated gameplay we've got now. A lot more methodical. No ship turning on a dime. No one shot kills, being constantly disabled or thoroughly spammed with clicky TRIBBLE. Man ... that makes you wonder. Do STO's designer ever sit back and look at what they have done to the game? Not just on a patch by patch basis though. It's so easy to dismiss small increments of change, but this just shows you how much the game has changed over the years. It really looked like trek battles in the beforetime. :(

    One shot kills were there. Just not with consoles. Those vids are just itsy bitsy glimpses into how they settled into the game among themselves.

    I sort of got a kick out of the escort that was playing 'space turret'. That guy was screaming to be vaporized. Just no one around to make it happen.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    yep back then it was actual tall ship combat, not starfighters on line. ships with less hitpoints and heals really were glass cannons, ziping in and out of combat at will wasn't an option, everything operated in each others weapons range, TT didn't auto distribute ether.

    biggest changed happened with LoR EPtE buff, just reset the baseline for movement capabilities completely, was buffed nearly as much again with the second expansion with all the raw speed buffs from the delta rep. everything is hyper twitch now, and hyper vape.
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  • gregkanegregkane Member Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    What are you up to hilbert? U making an old pvp compilation?
  • mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Investigating whether S1.2 or pre-S1.2 pvp is what one should aim for in a pvp game.
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  • gregkanegregkane Member Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    You wouldnt happen to know of such a game? :)
  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mancom wrote: »
    Investigating whether S1.2 or pre-S1.2 pvp is what one should aim for in a pvp game.

    Depends on what you want. If you want to aim for 'team play required' go for before the changes to tactical team and added [Acc] on weapons. And restrict ships to the pure breed at launch boff layouts.

    Team play optional? Anything after that.

    EDIT: To some extent, BOPs broke that early rule. Hardcore actually. Thus the severe penalty they took in stats.
  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    DOB... That takes me right back. Especially their T4 Galaxy team vs pugs.

    PvP was so so much better back then (atleast once they fixed that absurd VM+SNB combo).

    Weapon drain was actually an important feature to keep in mind, when that was changed it really messed up the balance.

    For the most part though each update just seemed to make PvP slightly worse and worse. Then F2P hit and everything went right to hell.
    Previously Alendiak
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  • captainmatt2captainmatt2 Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wGkb9ZCHno

    3 months into game dropping multikill tricobalts. glory days no blowback QAPLAAA

    2 yrs later still worked

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV0VLuW6AAI
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