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STO average male and female character model?

skollulfrskollulfr Member Posts: 5,407 Arc User
edited December 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
im curious as to what the average male and female character models look like for sto, accounting for all active player characters.
any way to find this out?

would they be strangely disfigured or relatively normal?
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Probably wouldn't be TOO bad really, albeit rather tall (seems most are at least 6 feet). Most are actually reasonably proportioned if built like models and bodybuilders. Its just the horrifying skankily-dressed 8-foot H-cup freaks that stand out the most.
  • pewpewphazorspewpewphazors Member Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited November 2014
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  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'm going to predict that if you take the average of all characters in So you would get exactly that. Average. Sliders roughly at the middle position.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    reginamala78 wrote: »
    Probably wouldn't be TOO bad really, albeit rather tall (seems most are at least 6 feet). Most are actually reasonably proportioned if built like models and bodybuilders. Its just the horrifying skankily-dressed 8-foot H-cup freaks that stand out the most.

    On the other end of the spectrum, the freaks that stand out the most for me are the males that look like Lou Ferrigno and Johnny Bravo had a mutant baby and then doped it up with anabolic steroids.
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    On the other end of the spectrum, the freaks that stand out the most for me are the males that look like Lou Ferrigno and Johnny Bravo had a mutant baby and then doped it up with anabolic steroids.

    Always seem to be Alien-gen too, like they're thinking 'how much extra stuff can I put on one character?'
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    reginamala78 wrote: »
    Always seem to be Alien-gen too, like they're thinking 'how much extra stuff can I put on one character?'

    Funnily enough they tend to be human male tactical officers.

    They just have unrealistic proportions for what an average male would look like. Much in the same way the scantily-clad H-cup bimbos have unrealistic proportions for what an average female would look like.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Not sure if it's just because they stand out, but far more players out there look "toonie" than anything...it's more Futurama than TAS.
  • cecil08cecil08 Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I see nothing but impossibly proportioned women with random colored hair running around ESD.

    And all of them use the "seductive" pose too.

    In fact, I would love to see a pic of someone's female character who does NOT use the seductive pose. I think it doesn't exist :P
  • biersteinbierstein Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    IDK but my boff (The blue one) is one of the fattest females in all of star trek which is a little disturbing.

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  • cecil08cecil08 Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    You might be right but I don't think any woman has ever stood like this: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/227/e/4/star_trek_online___pose_3_by_solarnova1101-d5b86nb.jpg in real life :)
  • biersteinbierstein Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cecil08 wrote: »
    You might be right but I don't think any woman has ever stood like this: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/227/e/4/star_trek_online___pose_3_by_solarnova1101-d5b86nb.jpg in real life :)

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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I tend to give my characters more of an athletic build. This is also true with my boffs. Every now and then, I will create something completely different just to give them more character and personality.

    My borg characters tend to be taller as I want them to appear imposing.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    All my characters / BOFFs I tried to get realistic as possible. All shapes and sizes too. Most of my guys are in the 6ft to 6ft 3in range, unless its my Gorn. He is bigger. My girls are most in the 5ft to 6ft range. Tallest girl is my Andorian. I have some are short and skinny, and one that has all kinds of nice curves. Even the stances are more realistic and match their type of personality. I spent hours just to make my crew look good.

    I try my best to make them realistic.
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  • mwgacy1mwgacy1 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cecil08 wrote: »
    I see nothing but impossibly proportioned women with random colored hair running around ESD.

    And all of them use the "seductive" pose too.

    In fact, I would love to see a pic of someone's female character who does NOT use the seductive pose. I think it doesn't exist :P

    I haven't got around to leveling this one yet (hence the lack of uniform) but no Seductive pose here.

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  • jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cecil08 wrote: »
    I see nothing but impossibly proportioned women with random colored hair running around ESD.

    And all of them use the "seductive" pose too.

    In fact, I would love to see a pic of someone's female character who does NOT use the seductive pose. I think it doesn't exist :P
    I don't use it... it's such an eyesore. Ew.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    The height thing is another thing...standing there with my 6'4" Klingon and looking like a midget compared to everything because they've all maxed all the height/length sliders...cause everybody in Star Trek was over 7' tall...meh.
  • inkrunnerinkrunner Member Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cecil08 wrote: »
    You might be right but I don't think any woman has ever stood like this: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/227/e/4/star_trek_online___pose_3_by_solarnova1101-d5b86nb.jpg in real life :)

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  • conundrumnsaconundrumnsa Member Posts: 705 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    On the other end of the spectrum, the freaks that stand out the most for me are the males that look like Lou Ferrigno and Johnny Bravo had a mutant baby and then doped it up with anabolic steroids.

    It's sad that they try to make these over muscled characters to look tough. In reality they just look really stupid.
  • lordkhoraklordkhorak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    They just have unrealistic proportions for what an average male would look like. Much in the same way the scantily-clad H-cup bimbos have unrealistic proportions for what an average female would look like.

    This is much more the problem. It's quite baffling to see what people have done to their human (or species that is externally identical in proportion). Often, it's some ridiculous combination of maxed out shoulder width and chest sliders to make a 'big' character, but they had zero conception of proper proportions.

    Maybe I bodybuild too much, I'm very observant of maintaining proper proportions....but still, I don't think I'm super special, people can't *seriously* be so blinkered as to think these weirdly wide, barrel chested freaks look good?

    I have 'big' characters....they look nothing like those guys.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    It's one of the things that I've asked for off and on (probably others have asked as well) and that would be for some sort of default/proportional model that we could then tweak from that point - and - even something along the lines of proportional locks, so that if we move one slider others move to maintain proportions.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cecil08 wrote: »
    I see nothing but impossibly proportioned women with random colored hair running around ESD.

    And all of them use the "seductive" pose too.

    In fact, I would love to see a pic of someone's female character who does NOT use the seductive pose. I think it doesn't exist :P


    My female toons tend to most often use feminine pose.... swagger on a few of the armor sets; though my Orion uses seductive on a couple of outfits.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I haz pictures. Obviously that's just my characters, but hey. :p
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  • heckgoblinheckgoblin Member Posts: 685
    edited November 2014
    My avatar looks like a sex offender from the future.
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  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    My joined Trill sci is jacked to the max.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Making characters that look "athletic" without looking terrible is a challenge when the character creator is, after all, lifted from a superhero game. Maxing out the shoulder width and torso bulk is a recipe for ridiculousness, and far too many people do it.

    And it's twice as hard with female characters.

    The new tailor sliders allow some fine-tuning, but there will always be room for improvement.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cecil08 wrote: »
    I see nothing but impossibly proportioned women with random colored hair running around ESD.

    And all of them use the "seductive" pose too.

    In fact, I would love to see a pic of someone's female character who does NOT use the seductive pose. I think it doesn't exist :P

    The best poses for women are brawler or stern. Try it.
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  • jamesstjamesjamesstjames Member Posts: 75 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cecil08 wrote: »
    In fact, I would love to see a pic of someone's female character who does NOT use the seductive pose. I think it doesn't exist :P

    I use the stern pose for my fem character. She's (physically) based on my wife, so stern seemed appropriate :p

    Yet my wife uses the seductive pose because it pushes her animated chebs out. And she's a fan of those.
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    My avatar looks like a sex offender from the future.

    My avatars user does too. Wait... thats me. Oh :(
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  • lordkhoraklordkhorak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Plus, I don't make female characters who aren't fairly big. Why? Because they look wrong any smaller.

    The head starts going out of proportion to an extent the sliders can no longer handle, and the general construct and shape of the model is garbage. As an example, get a human woman in the editor and put her body attributes all at half, or what would be 'average'. She has a massive neck and head compared to the rest of her, and *should* immediately trigger the uncanny valley even if someone doesn't know why she looks wrong....you can minimise the neck bulk and length sliders by the way, it changes nothing about this. For added hilarity, the bowling ball of a head your human woman is currently sporting is defaulted to the smallest size it can be.

    In order to make a female character properly fit her own damn head, you MUST use 'Alien'. It is the only option that allows a wide enough range of overall head size, neck bulk, and neck length to actually give proportions to a not-huge woman that don't make your brain start wondering what's wrong. Bafflingly, the restricted sliders on a human woman actually restrict her to NOT looking human unless you make her a big, curvy lass*. Again, she has the smallest head size allowed right from the start, so you CANNOT make a smaller woman....she won't 'fit' her own head.

    All you have to do is Google image 'a woman standing' and start comparing it to the editors 'average' scales or even the default when you start a new human. It turns out that Cryptic thinks women don't have any shoulder width, so that has to be at 2/3 or you're gazing into the black depths of the uncanny valley again. The arm length is defaulted to the shortest as well.....which is still a bit too long.

    This is why Leela and Sela look so monumentally terrible. It's not just that their head models are utterly terrible, but that horror is amplified many, many times by it being a gigantic head perched atop a body completely out of proportion with it.

    *This is absolutely fine for me, I'd be making that anyway, but presumably not everyone does. ;)
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