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The TR Rifle and ground pvp

mcduffie369mcduffie369 Member Posts: 787 Arc User
edited November 2014 in PvP Gameplay
This surely was not the intent... and if it is, ground pvp has been reduced to 1 shots.
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1700 damage...
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  • giveroffacialsgiveroffacials Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I think they intended for a 25,000,000 ec rifle to give you a significant advantage in the game. Suck it up princess.
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  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    giveroffacials wrote: »
    I think they intended for a 25,000,000 ec rifle to give you a significant advantage in the game. Suck it up princess.

    pricing is decided by players, doesn't change the 'op'ness in a pvp perspective
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  • giveroffacialsgiveroffacials Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    elandarksky wrote: »
    pricing is decided by players, doesn't change the 'op'ness in a pvp perspective

    Pricing is really determined by Cryptic and the rarity of materiels and skilled DOff's who can make the rifle, and the cost of materials needed to upgrade it. Right now it costs a fortune in time and money to make the rifle and upgrade it to endgame level. You need several very rare and very expensive materials, about 20-30 superior ground upgrades, and a DOFF that is expensive and hard to get, plus a ground crafting skill of at least 15. Cryptic controls all those factors. Players just get to tweak the price based on what they are willing to accept, and no one is going to accept multi-million ec loses of selling tr-116b's
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  • mcduffie369mcduffie369 Member Posts: 787 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Those rifels are selling for 7m ec now.
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  • giveroffacialsgiveroffacials Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mcduffie369 wrote: »
    Those rifels are selling for 7m ec now.

    That's the base level 12, the 14's with extra glitter which I assume anyone in PVP would use are about 20-25 million.
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited November 2014
    I bought 7 of these while they were at 40 million. Even with the price drop, it's a purchase I did not regret. Now many more people can build them.

    As for the damage.. 1700? I broke 2200.

    Worth every fictional ec paid.
  • giveroffacialsgiveroffacials Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    ddesjardins wrote: »
    I bought 7 of these while they were at 40 million. Even with the price drop, it's a purchase I did not regret. Now many more people can build them.

    As for the damage.. 1700? I broke 2200.

    Worth every fictional ec paid.

    I paid a fortune for the first three or four I bought, but now I build them. As an endgame weapon that costs a fortune in ec or mats, DOffs, and skills it should do everything but carve your victory cake, and it almost does.
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  • tk79tk79 Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mcduffie369 wrote: »
    This surely was not the intent... and if it is, ground pvp has been reduced to 1 shots.
    http://s1338.photobucket.com/user/akurie369/media/screenshot_2014-11-22-11-12-20_zpsee7e7ced.jpg.html
    1700 damage...

    You sure are late. Ground pvp has been about one-shots for a while now.
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  • etherealplanesetherealplanes Member Posts: 414
    edited November 2014
    Oh Kyu yeah LOL dude if I am online give me buzz and I will kick him out of Otha for you :) Already done it a few times. I pretty much absorb his tr 116 and lunges ;)

    If I am not around elite poly armor change to all tanky rep traits like emergency fix medical nanites. Make sure your hp is maxed out via traits as well. As soon as you see the noob decloak wait about 2 or 3 seconds and just roll for major dodge. Odds are that tr sniper shot which you can't see will be unleashed in about that time in which case you will dodge it heavily with a well times roll. Also pick up the bulwark projection module from delta lockbox. Both activation's of the power have survival benefits. The 2nd activation requires him to be targeted and 10 meters however.

    Also the tr 116 while still op is by far NOT the worst things in ground pvp today. Last week I was using a combo of two intel modules that would make you QQ a river if I used the combo on you.
  • mynameisnommynameisnom Member Posts: 639 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    1700? Just LOL. One shotting has been here for ages. I can do 18k crit flank lunges, and up to 7k crit flank arc wave shots... Not that I do that in actual pvp. That ruins the fun. But yeah. Big deal lmfao.
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  • etherealplanesetherealplanes Member Posts: 414
    edited November 2014
    mynameisnom wrote: »
    1700? Just LOL. One shotting has been here for ages. I can do 18k crit flank lunges, and up to 7k crit flank arc wave shots... Not that I do that in actual pvp. That ruins the fun. But yeah. Big deal lmfao.

    You can't lunge for 18k even on an npc dude stop exaggerating.
  • mynameisnommynameisnom Member Posts: 639 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    etherealplanes wrote: »
    You can't lunge for 18k even on an npc dude stop exaggerating.

    Sad thing buddy, I can and have. I tested with alexy rykov, granted it was with alexy crouching but still, it happened.
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    Those fish are much like their masters, filthy backstabbers... All battlecloaked fish, waiting for the right moment...
    breadandcircuses wrote: »
    The boss being a gigantic Winter Epohh Researcher. As you lay waste to the Epohh Horde, she can occasionally cry out things like, "Didn't you want an Epohh friend?"
  • heckgoblinheckgoblin Member Posts: 685
    edited November 2014
    Man, wait until you run into your first competent shotgunner. That 1700 dmg hit? I can deliver 10 of those with a single shot, assuming I've got enough targets in front of me :p

    230 DPS with 80% shield penetration and 29% crit rate is nothing to sneeze at, groundwise...
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  • skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    heckgoblin wrote: »

    230 DPS with 80% shield penetration and 29% crit rate is nothing to sneeze at, groundwise...

    Where do you get the 80% shield pen from?
  • heckgoblinheckgoblin Member Posts: 685
    edited November 2014
    skyranger1414 wrote: »
    Where do you get the 80% shield pen from?

    The shotgun. It ignores shields for the most part.
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  • skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    heckgoblin wrote: »
    The shotgun. It ignores shields for the most part.

    Ahh, its an unlisted bonus them?
  • heckgoblinheckgoblin Member Posts: 685
    edited November 2014
    Yep, doesn't show up on tooltip. The effect is there though. Rips up Elachi like snotty tissues.
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  • tk79tk79 Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mynameisnom wrote: »
    1700? Just LOL. One shotting has been here for ages. I can do 18k crit flank lunges, and up to 7k crit flank arc wave shots... Not that I do that in actual pvp. That ruins the fun. But yeah. Big deal lmfao.

    Cool, so now I can use that 18k figure instead of 5k whenever I'm badmouthing Lunge. Which is like, all the time.
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  • lystentlystent Member Posts: 1,019
    edited November 2014
    giveroffacials wrote: »
    I think they intended for a 25,000,000 ec rifle to give you a significant advantage in the game. Suck it up princess.

    PvP is dying. Suck it up.
  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    mynameisnom wrote: »
    1700? Just LOL. One shotting has been here for ages. I can do 18k crit flank lunges, and up to 7k crit flank arc wave shots... Not that I do that in actual pvp. That ruins the fun. But yeah. Big deal lmfao.

    18k lunge is mathematically impossible in the game right now. You wouldn't even get that number shooting someone with 10 copies of tricorder scan stacked onto them. In order to hit 18,000 damage with lunge you'd need to somehow buff your damage by 4,500% and there is no way you are doing that with current abilities. 7k critical hit pulsewave shots are theoretically possible if you stacked every possible buff onto yourself, but the odds of scoring that is extremely slim. Not to mention you'd need to do it point blank because ~20% of the damage is lost at just two meters.
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  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    majortiraomega wrote: »
    18k lunge is mathematically impossible in the game right now. You wouldn't even get that number shooting someone with 10 copies of tricorder scan stacked onto them. In order to hit 18,000 damage with lunge you'd need to somehow buff your damage by 4,500% and there is no way you are doing that with current abilities. 7k critical hit pulsewave shots are theoretically possible if you stacked every possible buff onto yourself, but the odds of scoring that is extremely slim. Not to mention you'd need to do it point blank because ~20% of the damage is lost at just two meters.

    Better prove it with an image than with words...would be nice to have STOacademy for ground to see what skills were used. I believe it but needs more convincing.
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  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    crusader2007 wrote: »
    Better prove it with an image than with words...would be nice to have STOacademy for ground to see what skills were used. I believe it but needs more convincing.

    I too would love to see this rumored "18k lunge" because as it stands it should me mathematically impossible to pull off under the current game mechanics. More than 5k against an NPC would be difficult, but doable under heavy debuffing and self buffing. You might be able to hit for 9k or so with several hundred -Damage Resistance Rating but you'd need every possible tactical buff, a crit, and an expose in addition to several hundred -DRR. 18k against a player? Give me a break, anyone claiming that is exaggerating heavily. The same goes for 7k pulsewave shots against a player. That claim is less extreme; theoretically possible even, but highly unlikely given the perfect storm nature of such a hit.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Um, I've seen it, gotta get every debuff on the guy and every buff on you, then you flank... it's possible for a lunge to hit 11-14k. Hitting that high is quite possible. I've seen weapon damage do 22-28k so...
  • etherealplanesetherealplanes Member Posts: 414
    edited November 2014
    majortiraomega wrote: »
    I too would love to see this rumored "18k lunge" because as it stands it should me mathematically impossible to pull off under the current game mechanics. More than 5k against an NPC would be difficult, but doable under heavy debuffing and self buffing. You might be able to hit for 9k or so with several hundred -Damage Resistance Rating but you'd need every possible tactical buff, a crit, and an expose in addition to several hundred -DRR. 18k against a player? Give me a break, anyone claiming that is exaggerating heavily. The same goes for 7k pulsewave shots against a player. That claim is less extreme; theoretically possible even, but highly unlikely given the perfect storm nature of such a hit.

    I think we should get these guys to try to put that kind of lunge against us 1 on 1 :)
  • nulonunulonu Member Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    etherealplanes wrote: »
    I think we should get these guys to try to put that kind of lunge against us 1 on 1 :)

    18k seems a bit of a stretch but who knows with all the new abilities. Pre-Delta Grinding, I had managed around a 7.5k lunge. Testing situation, however, that would be extremely unlikely in actual pvp. If that 18k number did actually happen I suspect it would also be very unlikely to happen outside of a perfect condition test.

    And, wow the OP must have been away for a bit to just notice the TR-116B now.
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  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    deaftravis05 wrote: »
    Um, I've seen it, gotta get every debuff on the guy and every buff on you, then you flank... it's possible for a lunge to hit 11-14k. Hitting that high is quite possible. I've seen weapon damage do 22-28k so...

    22-28k? As in 22,000 to 28,000 in one single hit? Again, that is mathematically impossible. Some of the best spike damage builds wouldn't even hit for half of that ever.
    nulonu wrote: »
    18k seems a bit of a stretch but who knows with all the new abilities. Pre-Delta Grinding, I had managed around a 7.5k lunge.

    Oh yeah, I've seen 7k before with lunge, but it has never been 7k base. Usually it is something like 7,000 (3,500) (Critical) due to negative damage resistance ratings stacked upon the NPC.
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  • nulonunulonu Member Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    majortiraomega wrote: »
    22-28k? As in 22,000 to 28,000 in one single hit? Again, that is mathematically impossible. Some of the best spike damage builds wouldn't even hit for half of that ever.



    Oh yeah, I've seen 7k before with lunge, but it has never been 7k base. Usually it is something like 7,000 (3,500) (Critical) due to negative damage resistance ratings stacked upon the NPC.

    This was against a player, but yea same thing in the log. If this DID happen it would be like I said, perfect conditions with a goal trying to get a huge number with a method impractical for pvp.
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    the hit I saw, yeah actually we were setting up for a perfect hit... resulted in a vaporization.

    it was cool, we werent able to repeat it
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