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Players vs. Devs

wildmousexwildmousex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
that's what we need around here...


a Players vs Devs PvP tourny.

winning player team goes against the winning dev team



make it so.
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  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Yes, this is a good idea. The devs can use the super-amazing God gear that they used while testing the new content. You know, the gear that had no problem at all handling Crystalline Entity against an NPC with 15 million hit points.

    This will be a very well balanced match, I wonder who will win...
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Not a far match, the Players will wipe the floor with the devs
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  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Devs have prototype epic stuff, AND the codes to make things OOBER epic, not to mention drop our stats to nothing.

    You're a moron.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    You do know the Devs have normal accounts without the fancy stuff, they use to PVP with players, and a lot of the times, they got their butts handed to them.
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,939 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I seem to recall at the end of closed Beta they "invaded" each driving a souped up Borg cube... hilarity ensued
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  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited November 2014
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Not a far match, the Players will wipe the floor with the devs

    ^This^
    No question.
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  • deadspacex64deadspacex64 Member Posts: 565 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    ^This^
    No question.

    that's why i like taco...he's honest :)

    not a fair fight in any case, they don't have time to play as much as players do, or be as obsessive as many of the pvpers are about tactics and builds....they have to work on the game, eat, sleep, take care of family if there is any, etc.

    a few games i've played where devs/publishers have run content without cheats, publishers did better (they have more time to spend in game) devs universally tended to lag behind or fail utterly without cheats (in some cases failed utterly WITH cheats). none involved themselves in PvP of any kind...that takes a certain kind of dedication and time to be really good at if tactics count and it's not a skill CD slugfest(gear vs gear/class vs class player skill or positioning doesn't matter).
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I've been told that the STO devs do play the game... many of them just aren't very good at it.

    I'm assuming PvP would be included in that assessment.
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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Not a far match, the Players will wipe the floor with the devs

    Every devs vs. players match I've ever seen has gone this way, but they're still fun anyway. It'd make an interesting livestream. Get 5 of the best players on the dev team, pit them against 5 randomly selected players, get Smirk to run commentary (oh wait, STO doesn't have a spectate option...)
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    dragonsbrethren wrote: »
    get Smirk to run commentary (oh wait, STO doesn't have a spectate option...)

    Why would that matter? He could just speculate with vague, non-specific details.

    "It's possible that maybe sometime in the near future it'll be on our radar that blue team will win."
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
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    edited November 2014
    Great idea. Two problems though.

    a) Wouldn't the Dev team have to become, I dunno, visible again?
    b) Wouldn't doing this violate the Statement of Non Communication clause in their contracts?
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  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2014
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    I seem to recall at the end of closed Beta they "invaded" each driving a souped up Borg cube... hilarity ensued

    LoL yeah there were cubes everywhere, and ESD was crawling with drones. You pretty much died the second you beamed in.
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  • swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    In DC Universe occasionally a community rep will appear and take on all comers. He's in uber gear, but it's a 1-100 fight for funsies, so it's all good. Having a developer drop into ESD or DS9 space in a tac cube and open up on everyone would be amusing.
  • bwemobwemo Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    As hilariously one sided and educational this would be for some of the things the devs have recently put into the game, I present a far more eloquent solution to the problem that will not be viewed as an ego stroking contest.

    No AI tweaks will be needed for this except adding skills to a borg cube.

    I would like to see 5 devs, on stream, fight 1 borg cube (adv or elite level hp/dres settings) that has the ability to use Ionic Turbulence 3 + EMP probe any level + evade target lock on the federation only possible timer of 20s per cheese volley. If by the end of this none of the dev's blood pressure has raised significantly, I would be very shocked. Bonus points if the cube has access to Isowincuzipressed1button Cannon.

    To me, this would be vastly more entertaining than the umpteenth time we're turned down for devs vs pvpers.
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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    khamseenair wrote: »
    ESD was crawling with drones. You pretty much died the second you beamed in.
    "Crawling" is not the right word. "Swarming" is more descriptive.

    But when I happened to arrive, I beamed inside a shield bubble some smart engies had set up. The drones were trying to get in like mad and we held our own for a while. It was epic! :D
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  • cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Any competent PvPer could obliterate them. All that is up for debate is just how obliterated are we talking, it is why they don't do it. Brandon did PvP mind. (and still does a bit from time to time)

    I quite like the Panda suggestion, it would be nice to see them deal with what they've put on Holodeck...


    Oh, and don't think we would make them need a full DR meta spec build, there are loads of ways around stuff like that, we PvPers already developed them ourselves. *Points at sig*
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    wildmousex wrote: »
    that's what we need around here...


    a Players vs Devs PvP tourny.

    winning player team goes against the winning dev team



    make it so.

    god mode + tools + plus easy list of choice in how to disable opposite player with one button push = instant defeat for player.

    it wont happen :P.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 6,225 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    I've been told that the STO devs do play the game... many of them just aren't very good at it.

    I'm assuming PvP would be included in that assessment.

    I would like to see the defs form up a team of 5, get into a Dyson Destroyer, Obelisk Carrier or the Enterprise C each and use EXACTLY the same boff/gear layout you get during that missions. Then they may do ISA & KASA. Upon successful completion of that we get back to the PvP topic shal we?
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  • sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2014
    I'd be up for this. I have a score to settle in game with a particular Dev that beamed into the revamped esd on tribble as a elite tactical gorn drone and promptly shot me in the back lol.
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  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    ^This^
    No question.

    You would die glorious deaths, many many times over! :D
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    plays quake 2> finds jumps maps> joins> beats the scenario and brags about it with admin on> !gib player> player spontaneously combusts and has to start over. player tries to fly through> admin adjusts gravity from 1.0 to 4.5 during an epic jump streak:P> player hits the deck and combusts on touch :P.

    you should know better then to play vs those with tools at their disposal :D:D
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  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2014
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    "Crawling" is not the right word. "Swarming" is more descriptive.

    But when I happened to arrive, I beamed inside a shield bubble some smart engies had set up. The drones were trying to get in like mad and we held our own for a while. It was epic! :D

    I just remembered I still have some screenshots from back then.

    http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff233/khamseen_air/screenshot_2010-01-27-01-15-14_zpsfe477c80.jpg

    http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff233/khamseen_air/screenshot_2010-01-27-01-19-13_zps62d0ebbd.jpg

    http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff233/khamseen_air/screenshot_2010-01-27-01-19-16_zps4459df77.jpg

    http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff233/khamseen_air/screenshot_2010-01-27-01-17-42_zps52df355a.jpg

    http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff233/khamseen_air/screenshot_2010-01-27-01-18-04_zps48d07b00.jpg

    Back when ground combat was a grind for every group of five too haha. Was a good way to end the beta though. :D
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  • mhirtescmhirtesc Member Posts: 581 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    wildmousex wrote: »
    that's what we need around here...


    a Players vs Devs PvP tourny.

    winning player team goes against the winning dev team



    make it so.

    Seeing just how incredibly terribad Smirk is in the game, it would be a massacre.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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         Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I killed Daniel Stahl a few times.

    And while devs absolutely do try to play (and I think the new product manager guy can make that a focus for himself)...

    In addition to working long hours during the week, it's probably pretty essential that the devs play other games so they know what's going on in their field.

    Because then they get blindsided with "Hey! WoW just made everything account wide"/"Secret World just let you sell XP"/"TOR is letting you convert logged out alts into companion pets", etc. (all hypotheticals) And it's pretty essential that they do this. They can't just say "That's not how things work here" every time. They need to have a finger on the pulse of their field.

    This may sound really absurd on some level but I almost think they should have a PWE team of staffers who are paid to play all the non-PWE U.S. market MMOs and compile competition analysis reports to be distributed to all of PWE's developers (Cryptic and otherwise) because the designers need to know what's going on everywhere outside of STO (and even knowing what's going on inside STO is a beast).

    Or maybe develop a bonus system for developers who can file specialized reports on specific areas like art, character animation, etc. to be distributed to art, character, systems teams throughout PWI's western offices.

    I imagine Taco has to play some other games anyway in his off time to keep up. But maybe he could use his art background to type up a report specifically for environmental artists throughout the company on the state of EV art in other MMOs for a bonus check.

    Y'Know, technical stuff like "map sizes seem to be shrinking in games X, Y, and Z but polycount of assets is on the rise" and more artistic stuff like "I'm noticing a trend towards more indoor environments that use fog effects. This seems to be effective at blah, blah, blah."
  • bfelczerbfelczer Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    patrickngo wrote: »
    Branflakes did it, like, twice, then he quit.

    Was way more than twice! :P I just usually did it on my personal account because it had all my builds.

    EDIT:
    nabreeki wrote: »
    Last time a member of PWE lead a PVP event, at least one Dental's STO account was temporarily banned because said former community manager blew up several times.
    False, and I've repeatedly requested this fallacious information cease from being spread. 1) I could not ban player's accounts in-game, 2) That would just be stupid on my part to even think about doing that, as would be asking someone else to do it for that reason who could, 3) Your fleetmate is either making it up or got banned for something completely different, and I'm sure they can email in for the reason as the CS reps keep records of all that, but I played zero part in it. Not really anything I can do to prove it, but I know what I do/did and don't/didn't do, and that was something I absolutely never did. I put my honor and name on it.

    Cheers,

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  • gardatgardat Member Posts: 280 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    bfelczer wrote: »
    Was way more than twice! :P I just usually did it on my personal account because it had all my builds.

    EDIT:


    False, and I've repeatedly requested this fallacious information cease from being spread. 1) I could not ban player's accounts in-game, 2) That would just be stupid on my part to even think about doing that, as would be asking someone else to do it for that reason who could, 3) Your fleetmate is either making it up or got banned for something completely different, and I'm sure they can email in for the reason as the CS reps keep records of all that, but I played zero part in it. Not really anything I can do to prove it, but I know what I do/did and don't/didn't do, and that was something I absolutely never did. I put my honor and name on it.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    I don't know. You're the same person caught on twitch rage quitting DS9 because someone threw a snowball at you.

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