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Star Trek's Legendary Ships

gbw2318gbw2318 Member Posts: 126 Arc User
edited November 2014 in Ten Forward
Inspired by the ships of the same name within the game Black Flag, I wondered: what were the strongest ships of the various Star Trek series? Excepting the 'hero ships', like the various Enterprises, the Defiant, or Voyager. The ones that were nigh impossible to defeat. These are my opinions. Any I may have forgotten?

TOS: The Fesarius
From "The Corbomite Maneuver", it was a sphere a mile in diameter and scanned Kirk's Enterprise in a few seconds and managed to override and shut down some of its systems. It took some quick thinking and bluffing by Kirk - and, admittedly, no real malevolent intentions by Fesarius' pilot - to defuse the situation.

TNG: Borg Type 03
From the "Descent" two parter, operated by the rogue Borg under the leadership of Lore. Heavily armed and massively armored, it completely outmatched the Enterprise-D and forced it to retreat instead of being able to stand toe to toe with it. It took metaphasic shielding to hide in a star's corona from it, and an induced solar flare to destroy it.

DS9: Jem'Hadar Battleship
Introduced midway through the Dominion War, this battleship was said to be twice the size of a Galaxy-class and three times as powerful. It completely outclassed a Defiant-class ship, though it was admittedly piloted by a bunch of Starfleet cadets, albeit at the top of their class.

VOY: Krenim Weapon Ship
Technically not legendary - because it never existed in the first place - in an overwritten timeline, this Krenim temporal weapon was the scourge of a section of the Delta Quadrant for two centuries. It could move ships and entire worlds out of the space-time continuum, effectively erasing them from history. Outside of the normal flow of time itself, its crew was immortal and the ship was immune to conventional weapons. Even without its temporal core active, its conventional defenses were formidable as well. Only through internal dissent was the ship defeated, erased from history itself, and the Year of Hell Voyager went through never happened in the first place.

ENT: Xindi-Aquatic Cruiser
Some might say the spherical Xindi weapon that could destroy entire worlds might fit better, but it was obvious that it needed a fleet to defend it and that it was a one trick pony - it could destroy planets, but nothing else. Ships would likely be too fast for it to target. So the Xindi-Aquatic Cruiser. At least 1800 meters long and equipped with the most advanced technology of the five Xindi species. It had a hangar that could carry an entire starship. It was destroyed by spatial anomalies generated by a nearby Sphere as it was certain to carry its side to victory otherwise.
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Voth city ship... Borg tactical cube...

    ...V'Ger...
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  • gbw2318gbw2318 Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    Voth city ship... Borg tactical cube...

    ...V'Ger...
    I daresay the Krenim Weapon Ship could have erased either the Voth city ship or Borg tactical cube without getting scratched. And V'Ger was in the movies, and would probably outdo any other ship within the movies as well, digitizing the likes of the whale probe, General Chang's Bird-of-Prey, and Shinzon's Scimitar. Though, technically, V'Ger was more of an entity than a ship.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited November 2014
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  • gbw2318gbw2318 Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    sander233 wrote: »
    Ah, I did forget about those... and I'm wondering how I could have with regards to the Doomsday Machine. One does have to wonder how it compares with the Fesarius, since you never see its full capabilities. Though the Doomsday Machine does have the one glaring weakness, its own huge maw, despite the rest of it being armored in neutronium and it being able to destroy entire worlds.

    As for Dreadnought, it was indeed nigh impossible to defeat from the outside. Still though, I think the Krenim Weapon Ship has it beat - it's practically invulnerable as long as the crew keep the temporal core active and it can erase whatever it aims at from history, unless it figures out the temporal shielding. Which Dreadnought might do, but would it be able to in time, so to speak, before the Krenim's first shot erases it? The most that could happen is a draw between the two.
  • zbzznzbzzn Member Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'm kind of surprised Gomtuu was left out.
  • gbw2318gbw2318 Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    zbzzn wrote: »
    I'm kind of surprised Gomtuu was left out.
    Gomtuu, or "Tin Man", was formidable - it destroyed a D'deridex in one hit - but like V'Ger was more of an entity, or life form, than a ship.
  • seriousxenoseriousxeno Member Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Ok, here we go:

    TOS: The Space Amoeba. I know, its not a ship but its the most formidable threat that I can remember. This thing is not only huge (I mean HUGE) but its negative energy field completely drains anything that gets close to it. Very similar to the doomsday machine, but its weakness isn't quite as apparent.

    Honorable mention: The Doomsday Machine. Seems invincible, but is far from it once you figure it out.

    TNG: The Borg Cube. During the first encounter, Picard had to BEG Q to safe them. The second encounter saw the loss of 39 Starfleet Vessels and left the Sol systems' defenses in pieces.

    Honorable mention: The Husnock Warship. Technically just an illusion that may or may not be based on a real ship. It completely dominated the Enterprise.

    DS9: The Dominion Battleship. A behemoth bristling with weaponry.

    Honorable mention: Breen Warship. It took out the Defiant in one shot and only the Klingons were remotely resilient against the Breen energy dampening weapon (at least at first).

    VOY: Species 8472 Bioship. Resists even Borg weapons and assimilation and can effortlessly destroy a cube. If multiple ships focus fire, they can even blow up a planet!

    Honorable mention: The Krenim Timeship and the Tactical Borg Cube.

    Sadly I cannot comment on ENT since I haven't seen most of the episodes. The encounter with the (alleged) Elachi ship was tough though, since the Enterprises' primitive weapons weren't particularly useful at first. Thats the only such encounter I can remember.
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  • grandnaguszek1grandnaguszek1 Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I think the Tholian ships from TOS: The Tholian Web deserves a mention here.
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  • zbzznzbzzn Member Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    gbw2318 wrote: »
    Gomtuu, or "Tin Man", was formidable - it destroyed a D'deridex in one hit - but like V'Ger was more of an entity, or life form, than a ship.

    I'd say it was a living ship. It sustained a crew and was seemingly intended to do so.
  • gbw2318gbw2318 Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    zbzzn wrote: »
    I'd say it was a living ship. It sustained a crew and was seemingly intended to do so.
    Touche. I remembered the living organism part, but not the 'its crew had died a long time ago' part.
  • ambassadormolariambassadormolari Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    More honourabe mentions:


    Tamarian warship- effectively traded fire with the Enterprise, and was clearly winning until Picard used diplomacy and it was super effective.

    APU Battleship- again, took on Voyager in a straight up fight and forced them to withdraw. I don't even remember Voyager scoring any lasting damage against it-- I think the only damage it ever suffered the whole episode was from rival APU vessels.

    Octanti warship- "twenty-two phaser cannons on its aft section alone."
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  • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Yes, the Defiant has very impressive speed and weapons for its weight class, but a ship that small and nimble can't carry a lot of armor compared to a battleship dozens of times its mass. Once the shields fail / are penetrated, it can't take much of a beating.
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  • theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 6,016 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Yes, the Defiant has very impressive speed and weapons for its weight class, but a ship that small and nimble can't carry a lot of armor compared to a battleship dozens of times its mass. Once the shields fail / are penetrated, it can't take much of a beating.

    It took a fair beating in changing face of evil before it was destroyed.
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    • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,331 Arc User
      edited November 2014
      VOY: U.S.S. Relativity (Wells Class) If you need to ask why a ship from the future is legendary well then I have nothing to say to you.

      Ent: U.S.S. Enterprise-J Because why fly a starship when you can fly a space station
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