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UTC vs pasific time

leviathen86leviathen86 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
edited November 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Server updates are needed, but could there please be the correct downtime in the launcher? 0600 - 0930 AM pasific is not 02:00 - 05:30 UTC. its 14:00 - 17:30.
UTC doesnt use the AM/PM system. (02:00 - 05:30 is the middle of the night)
gets me evey time.

ty :D
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  • guilli88guilli88 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    They cant help it, they cant count past 12!

    (I kid! I'm sorry, couldn't help myself hehe, no hard feelings? :) )
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    guilli88 wrote: »
    They cant help it, they cant count past 12!

    (I kid! I'm sorry, couldn't help myself hehe, no hard feelings? :) )
    I swear, I know some people who couldn't get to 10 if they lost a hand.
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  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    leviathen86 wrote: »
    Server updates are needed, but could there please be the correct downtime in the launcher? 0600 - 0930 AM pasific is not 02:00 - 05:30 UTC. its 14:00 - 17:30.
    UTC doesnt use the AM/PM system. (02:00 - 05:30 is the middle of the night)
    gets me evey time.

    ty :D

    Which -is- 2:00 - 5:30 just PM and opposed to AM. People need to be clear about these things. You want them to adopt a 24-hour/military-style timer as opposed to a 12-hour AM/PM timer. Right?
  • tyriniussstyriniusss Member Posts: 317 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    If it says "2:00" without "AM" or "PM" following I assume a 24 hour system.
    So either add "PM" or say "14:00".
    Typing "2:00" when meaning "2:00 PM/14:00" is wrong in both systems ;)
  • unotetsuunotetsu Member Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I use Specific Standard Time, which means it is specifically STO time all the time...!
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  • lordkhoraklordkhorak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    No-one in such a position should ever use anything but the 24 hour system. Any other option creates ambiguity that has no right to exist. Especially since it would make perfect sense for maintenance to be run in the middle of the night, right? From 2 till 5:30? Makes sense to me.

    Sounds like the same madness of the US using literally the ONLY possible date format capable of creating a problem in understanding. ;)
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  • leviathen86leviathen86 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Well just make sure there cannot be confusion about what time its offline, thats it. 0200 utc is 0200 AM. not 14:00. thats it
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    what gets me is why they never add anything like GMT.

    sure its simple to go and look up pacific to GMT but i mean if Bioware can bother to put it in their patch notes why cant they?
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  • fmgtorres1979fmgtorres1979 Member Posts: 1,327 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    nickcastleton wrote: »
    what gets me is why they never add anything like GMT.

    sure its simple to go and look up pacific to GMT but i mean if Bioware can bother to put it in their patch notes why cant they?

    GMT is the same as UTC
  • lordkhoraklordkhorak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Except it's called UTC because the rest of the world doesn't like the reminder that WE'RE THE TIME LORDS. YOU DERIVE FROM US THE TIME. WE TELL YOU WHAT TIME IT IS.

    :cool: :D
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  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    westmetals wrote: »
    That is what they are intending with UTC... which is GMT unmodified by daylight savings. However, they keep getting the conversions wrong.

    GMT never changes. What you call daylight saving we call "British Summer Time" and so times altered times are BST not GMT.

    Either way Cryptic just seem to have a problem with the 24 hour format of UTC maybe they don't like it. This makes it look unprofessional as they don't convert correctly.
  • jackal1701apwjackal1701apw Member Posts: 669 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    westmetals wrote: »
    That is what they are intending with UTC... which is GMT unmodified by daylight savings.

    GMT is equivalent to UTC and has nothing to do with daylight savings (the only difference being that UTC is measured on atomic clocks and therefore is much more accurate and with UTC a day starts at 00:00, whereas with GMT it used to be 12:00 noon). When the UK goes into the summer time, they switch to BST = GMT+1

    I live in Greenwich directly under the green laser light that marks the meridian line so I should know!

    The issue that Cryptic have week-in, week-out is that they cannot use a 24-hr clock/tell the time (which is a more simple task than timezone conversion). Each week we are told the time of the update both in PST (which is GMT/UTC-8) along with the UTC/GMT time. Only ever week the GMT time is given as 12-hrs before it actually is - i.e saying 02:00 rather than 14:00.

    It makes me chuckle everytime, but isn't really the end of the world.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    leviathen86 wrote: »
    Server updates are needed, but could there please be the correct downtime in the launcher? 0600 - 0930 AM pasific is not 02:00 - 05:30 UTC. its 14:00 - 17:30.
    UTC doesnt use the AM/PM system. (02:00 - 05:30 is the middle of the night)
    gets me evey time.

    ty :D

    UTC is what the countries of this ball of chaos use to measure their own timezones plus those countries using DST.

    GMT is where the uk is at now in timezone as of several weeks ago when DST became invalid for the rest of the year until early next year.

    the USA had their own DST change a few days ago.

    i never needed to use the UTC to measure the countries own time when DST was or wasnt in effect, for the USA pacific time for example all i have to do is look at my clock now and it says 6pm, i know the pacific time is 8 hours behind, so it would be 10am there like that at this time. the trick however for a country like russia that does not use DST is to add or take an hour based on where your own clock lands on the DST or non DST.
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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    PST > UTC > GMT

    Better get used to Pacific Time. Imaginary lines running through Greenwich, England, are no longer the center of the modern world.

    Silicon Valley is on PST, which includes Google, Yahoo, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Dropbox, Netflix, Adobe, Intel, Nvidia, AMD, HP, Cisco, Oracle, EA, and yes even Cryptic.

    Microsoft and Amazon are also on PST up in WA state.
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  • jackal1701apwjackal1701apw Member Posts: 669 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    gfreeman98 wrote: »
    PST > UTC > GMT

    Imaginary lines running through Greenwich, England, are no longer the center of the modern world.

    Its not imaginary. It's a real line and at night there is a green laser :)
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  • bernatkbernatk Member Posts: 1,089 Bug Hunter
    edited November 2014
    shurato2099 wrote: »
    Which -is- 2:00 - 5:30 just PM and opposed to AM. People need to be clear about these things. You want them to adopt a 24-hour/military-style timer as opposed to a 12-hour AM/PM timer. Right?

    The Americans? No way dude! But this is a Star Trek (or at least based on, or the very least sci-fi based lol...) game. So I expect them to understand 24h military time.
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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    jackal1701apw wrote: »
    Its not imaginary. It's a real line and at night there is a green laser :)
    I don't care if it has a spinning disco ball and flashing strobe lights. The center of the modern world is right here in sunny California. :P
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  • tyriniussstyriniusss Member Posts: 317 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    It's called "Universal Time, Coordinated" for a reason... to help well, coordination. Doesn't have anything to do with where the "center of the modern world is". The line has to be drawn somewhere and for historical reasons it's Greenwich.
    The point is: Everyone should be expected to be able to get his own time out of UTC. That's what it's there for. It's an unmodified timescale. Knowing when PDT switches to PST and converting that to my own time which has daylight saving as well, but switched on other days is just nonsense. UTC was made for that very reason. So use it, and first and foremost: use it correctly.
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