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Needing a TV episode to STO guide

letgo95letgo95 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
edited October 2014 in The Academy
Is there a reference guide that would list the shows to the episodes in STO? For example, I would like to learn more about the Voth and the Borg. I would like to watch the individual tv shows for refresher. It would be nice to correspond the story missions to a the associated tv episodes. thank you. mb.
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  • dracarus2013dracarus2013 Member Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Next Generation is your ticket!. Or Voyager if you want a Borg worth drooling over lol
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  • stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    letgo95 wrote: »
    Is there a reference guide that would list the shows to the episodes in STO? For example, I would like to learn more about the Voth and the Borg. I would like to watch the individual tv shows for refresher. It would be nice to correspond the story missions to a the associated tv episodes. thank you. mb.

    If you go to the Memory Alpha Star Trek wiki (Google it), you can search for the name of a species, ship, character, etc., and usually you can find the episode that keyword belongs to. Hope this helps!
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  • tiriusavarotiriusavaro Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    letgo95 wrote: »
    Is there a reference guide that would list the shows to the episodes in STO? For example, I would like to learn more about the Voth and the Borg. I would like to watch the individual tv shows for refresher. It would be nice to correspond the story missions to a the associated tv episodes. thank you. mb.
    stardestroyer001's advice above is sound, but keep in mind some pages will have very long episode lists.

    I kind of like this idea; the Delta Rising blogs put us on this path by mentioning the source episodes for the new species, it would be nice to have a comprehensive STO-wide list but it would likely take a lot of effort to compile.
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    letgo95 wrote: »
    Is there a reference guide that would list the shows to the episodes in STO? For example, I would like to learn more about the Voth and the Borg. I would like to watch the individual tv shows for refresher. It would be nice to correspond the story missions to a the associated tv episodes. thank you. mb.

    And don't be disappointed about what you find.

    Some of the species that we see, that have been mentioned or that are even playable, only exist in a single short frame in one of the episodes or are just mentioned and never seen at all...
  • xandercorvusxandercorvus Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Just experience ALL Star Trek.
    I mean, if you're playing Star Trek Online, and are not already an avid fan of the source material, why did you even risk the social obscurity of jumping into such a niche clique via what may be it's final phase to begin with?

    Just to clarify, I'm not be condescending, disrespectful, or otherwise "a jerk" as I am often misunderstood as being.
    I LOVE ALL Star Trek [I even love Wesley Crusher & Neelix], I LOVE STO, and I do not intend to offend anyone with these remarks.
    These observations are based on my personal experiences as an avid fan of Star Trek, and a 4-year+ player of STO.
    I just, out of curiosity, really want to know the answer to that question because I run into (what I consider to be) WAY too many STO players that know NOTHING about Star Trek, and it sometimes really kills my joy over STO to even entertain the notion of teaming with them.
    If I could understand where they're coming from [and hopefully not just WoW], then I might be able to relate to them better.
    Thank you.
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  • dgdolphdgdolph Member Posts: 592 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    crashdragon wrote: »
    TOS - funny stuff that can't be taken serious!

    TNG - nice show!

    DS9 - awesome!!!

    Voyager - What just happened there? (very cool borg episodes though)

    Enterprise - Best show ever!!!

    Fixed your Post ;)
  • xandercorvusxandercorvus Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    dgdolph wrote: »
    crashdragon wrote: »
    TTOS - Star Trek made in the 60's, man!
    TNG - GREAT Star Trek show!

    DS9 - Boring on a space station for a LONG time...until Q and/or Worf show up!!!!

    Voyager - The way TOS SHOULD have been [i.e. "Boldly go where no man/one has gone before"] (very cool borg episodes, too)

    Enterprise - Best PREQUAL ever!!! [Even though they screwed up every small detail they possibly could while still paying attetion, you can disregard most of that as being due to interference from the "Temporal Cold War" warming up.

    Fixed your Post ;)

    I fixed your fix.
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  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2014
    Uh. . . am I reading the OP wrong? or are all of you?

    The way I read it, the OP is looking for a resource that correlates in game stories with the TV Episodes they are referencing.

    i.e. the Voth come from VOY: Distant Origin (Season 3, Episode 23)
    The introduction of the Borg was in TNG: Q Who (Season 2, Episode 16)
    etc.

    Sounds like a good project for someone to work on on the STO Wiki.
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  • castsbugccastsbugc Member Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    As I recall in trendy's intelligence briefing posts, there should be a episode reference at the bottom of each species detailing key episodes they appeared in
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I find it extremely enjoyable to boot up my PS4 and watch Star Trek on Netflix while I play the game. I have just finished TOS and will probably start into TNG since the bluegills come from there
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  • xandercorvusxandercorvus Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    khan5000 wrote: »
    I find it extremely enjoyable to boot up my PS4 and watch Star Trek on Netflix while I play the game. I have just finished TOS and will probably start into TNG since the bluegills come from there

    I don't recall anyone ever naming those bugs in the serials, though.
    Let alone, after a species of fish.
    Let me know where you run into that at, if it's there?
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    xandercorvus wrote: »
    I don't recall anyone ever naming those bugs in the serials, though.
    Let alone, after a species of fish.
    Let me know where you run into that at, if it's there?

    There is a line of dialogue in that episode where Riker mentions a bluegill
    I watched the episode yesterday
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The name 'Bluegills' actually comes from the DS9 novels featuring the Dax symbiote where the 'Bluegills' turn out to be the Trill version of Augments with a Romulan-like concept of 'Reunification' with the Trills that abandoned them...

    The 'Neural Parasites' were never actually named in the 'Conspiracy' arc of TNG (including "Conspiracy" itself), and since the STO version of the Neural Parasites seem to have little to nothing in common with the DS9 novel 'Bluegills', I don't know why they went with that name for them... (They actually remind me of the version of the Arachnids seen in "Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles", especially the Control Bugs...)
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  • xandercorvusxandercorvus Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    khan5000 wrote: »
    There is a line of dialogue in that episode where Riker mentions a bluegill
    I watched the episode yesterday

    Which episode?
    Unlike whomever wrote this article http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9002193, I am actually aware that they were seen in more than one episode of TNG.
    turbomagnus wrote: »
    The name 'Bluegills' actually comes from the DS9 novels featuring the Dax symbiote where the 'Bluegills' turn out to be the Trill version of Augments with a Romulan-like concept of 'Reunification' with the Trills that abandoned them...

    The 'Neural Parasites' were never actually named in the 'Conspiracy' arc of TNG (including "Conspiracy" itself), and since the STO version of the Neural Parasites seem to have little to nothing in common with the DS9 novel 'Bluegills', I don't know why they went with that name for them... (They actually remind me of the version of the Arachnids seen in "Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles", especially the Control Bugs...)

    Thank you.
    You're response was actually accurate, and helpful...and a LOT more of an explanation than was necessary, but welcome.
    Starship Troopers was also the first thing I thought of when seeing this new redesign.
    That, and a freakishly mutated Parasect from Pokemon ^_^
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    xandercorvus wrote: »
    Which episode?
    Unlike whomever wrote this article http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9002193, I am actually aware that they were seen in more than one episode of TNG.

    "Conspiracy"
    What other episode did they appear in?
    Memory Alpha says they never appeared again

    From MA
    The neural parasites have thus far never reappeared on-screen, but have been shown in a comic book taking control of a spacefaring species called the "Onglaatu" in a DC TNG story entitled "The Broken Moon!".

    The parasites have also returned in Pocket Books' new DS9 series of novels, first in The Lives of Dax, in which Audrid Dax and Christopher Pike discover that the parasites are closely related to the Trill. The last book in the Mission: Gamma series then picks this up, leading into the novel Unity in which it is revealed that the Trill symbionts and the neural parasites have been fighting a long secret war, with several species worth of hosts and governments as their weapons against each other. The parasites' latest gambit has been the continued fervor for Bajor to join the Federation; for unknown reasons this would represent a great victory to their secret plan.

    This story arc is completed in the novel Unjoined by Andy Mangels and Michael A. Martin, in which the parasites are revealed to actually be genetically modified Trill symbionts, created on the remote Trill colony of Kurl. A deadly plague had been killing symbionts, and the experiments were intended to develop a cure. However, the experiment failed, and the symbionts so affected became violent and xenophobic - the parasites - and swore revenge on Trill society for this disaster.
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    "Conspiracy" is the only time the Parasites themselves appear, but the first hints come earlier in season one in "Coming of Age" - which actually introduces Admiral Quinn and Lieutenant Remmick - and we get a small epilogue in season four's "The Drumhead" when it's mentioned that 'Witch-hunt' Satie appearantly played a large part in exposing the conspiracy... Which I find a weak attempt to try to make her 'not all bad', personally...
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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Is there a reference guide that would list the shows to the episodes in STO? For example, I would like to learn more about the Voth and the Borg. I would like to watch the individual tv shows for refresher. It would be nice to correspond the story missions to a the associated tv episodes. thank you. mb.


    ****SPOILERS*******SPOILERS***********SPOILERS***********SPOILERS*******

    It's rather hard to connect certain episodes to missions, since they often involve quite a few species that never met on the show, and whose episodes are completely unrelated.

    If you were to sort it by species we meet in DR:

    Hugh (representative of the Borg cooperative):
    - TNG "I Borg" S05E23,
    - TNG "Descent I" S06E26 and TNG "Descent II" S07E01

    Malon:
    - VOY "Night" S05E01
    - VOY "Extreme Risk" S05E02
    - VOY "Juggernaut" S05E21

    Vaadwaur, Turei and the underspace:
    - VOY "Dragon's Teeth" S06E07

    Vaadwaur Brain Bug:
    - TNG "Conspiracy" S01E25

    Kobali:
    - VOY "Ashes to Ashes" S06E18

    Benthans/Bethan Guard
    - VOY "Vis
  • c3141pwac3141pwa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    letgo95 wrote: »
    Is there a reference guide that would list the shows to the episodes in STO? For example, I would like to learn more about the Voth and the Borg. I would like to watch the individual tv shows for refresher. It would be nice to correspond the story missions to a the associated tv episodes. thank you. mb.

    The Voth are covered in Voyager S3E23 - "Distant Origin".

    The Borg are covered in :

    TNG S2E16 - "Q Who"
    TNG S3E26 - "The Best of Both Worlds"
    TNG S4E01 - "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II"
    TNG S4E02 - "Family"
    TNG S5E23 - "I, Borg"
    TNG S6E26 - "Descent"
    TNG S7E01 - "Descent, Part II"

    TNG Movie - "Star Trek: First Contact"

    VOY S3E17 - "Unity"
    VOY S3E26 - "Scorpion"
    VOY S4E01 - "Scorpion, Part II"
    VOY S5E02 - "Drone"
    VOY S5E07 - "Infinite Regress"
    VOY S5E15-16 - "Dark Frontier, Parts I and II"
    VOY S6E02 - "Survival Instinct"
    VOY S6E16 - "Collective"
    VOY S6E19 - "Child's Play"
    VOY S6E26 - "Unimatrix Zero"
    VOY S7E01 - "Unimatrix Zero, Part II"
    VOY S7E02 - "Imperfection"

    ENT S2E23 - "Regeneration"

    The Undine are covered in :

    VOY S3E26 - "Scorpion"
    VOY S4E01 - "Scorpion, Part II"
    VOY S4E16 - "Prey"
    VOY S5E04 - "In the Flesh"

    The Vaadwaur are covered in VOY S6E07 - "Dragon's Teeth".

    The Kobali are covered in VOY S6E18 - "Ashes to Ashes".
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    turbomagnus wrote: »
    "Conspiracy" is the only time the Parasites themselves appear, but the first hints come earlier in season one in "Coming of Age" - which actually introduces Admiral Quinn and Lieutenant Remmick - and we get a small epilogue in season four's "The Drumhead" when it's mentioned that 'Witch-hunt' Satie appearantly played a large part in exposing the conspiracy... Which I find a weak attempt to try to make her 'not all bad', personally...

    Originally the story was going to be about corrupt Star Fleet officers and Roddenberry completely shot down the story and so alien parasites were added. The story was quickly wrapped up and swept under the rug...
    ....the story was reworked and became a part of DS9 when no one could shoot the story down
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  • xandercorvusxandercorvus Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    c3141pwa wrote: »
    The Voth are covered in Voyager S3E23 - "Distant Origin".

    The Borg are covered in :

    TNG S2E16 - "Q Who"
    TNG S3E26 - "The Best of Both Worlds"
    TNG S4E01 - "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II"
    TNG S4E02 - "Family"
    TNG S5E23 - "I, Borg"
    TNG S6E26 - "Descent"
    TNG S7E01 - "Descent, Part II"

    TNG Movie - "Star Trek: First Contact"

    VOY S3E17 - "Unity"
    VOY S3E26 - "Scorpion"
    VOY S4E01 - "Scorpion, Part II"
    VOY S5E02 - "Drone"
    VOY S5E07 - "Infinite Regress"
    VOY S5E15-16 - "Dark Frontier, Parts I and II"
    VOY S6E02 - "Survival Instinct"
    VOY S6E16 - "Collective"
    VOY S6E19 - "Child's Play"
    VOY S6E26 - "Unimatrix Zero"
    VOY S7E01 - "Unimatrix Zero, Part II"
    VOY S7E02 - "Imperfection"

    ENT S2E23 - "Regeneration"

    The Undine are covered in :

    VOY S3E26 - "Scorpion"
    VOY S4E01 - "Scorpion, Part II"
    VOY S4E16 - "Prey"
    VOY S5E04 - "In the Flesh"

    The Vaadwaur are covered in VOY S6E07 - "Dragon's Teeth".

    The Kobali are covered in VOY S6E18 - "Ashes to Ashes".

    Also, the Elachi were in Star Trek: The Next Generation
    'Schisms'.
    khan5000 wrote: »
    "Conspiracy"
    What other episode did they appear in?

    Yeah...about that.
    I watched Conspiracy right after posting that...it turns out the "other episode" I was thinking of was actually the same episode.
    Had I not had to go to my job for 7 hours immediately after posting that, I could've saved you the trouble of posting a huge post that I still don't have time to read; bedtime...about 3 hours late.

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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Like others have pointed out as well, keep in mind that STOs interpretation of the species we see are largely only very loosely based on what was seen on-screen. Also the Borg are a special case as their whole species concept was completely rewritten with the movie "First Contact" for very dubious reasons. In short, the concept of the Borg hive mind was too complicated to be used in a movie, but they really wanted to use Borg because those episodes were among the most popular ones back in the days and so they changed basically everything. So watching the TNG episodes that originally introduced the Borg might paint a different picture from the Borg you see in STO which again are changed for the game from those seen in FC and VOY.
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  • tiriusavarotiriusavaro Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    xandercorvus wrote: »
    Also, the Elachi were in Star Trek: The Next Generation
    'Schisms'.
    This is incorrect. The unnamed aliens in "Schisms" are the Solinae in STO. The Elachi appeared in Enterprise's "Silent Enemy".
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