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phoenicius
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so... how long till cryptic admits the vast majority of the playerbase is outright ignoring/refusing to play STFs, fleet actions/etc? and decides to... you know, tune them?
queues are somehow deader than they were pre-DR, the only queue that actually sees some degree of moderate activity is mostly crystalline catastrophe and disconnected with some low activity for infected and khitomer.
before there used to be 70-150 people playing infected on any given time, 50-100+ doing crystalline, 30-80+ doing khitomer, not to mention plenty of other queues also saw some activity like undine infiltration, vicious cycle, rh'lhho station, the breach, gorn minefield, colony invasion, starbase defense.
the state of the queues is depressing, and this is supposed to be an expansion release.
queues are somehow deader than they were pre-DR, the only queue that actually sees some degree of moderate activity is mostly crystalline catastrophe and disconnected with some low activity for infected and khitomer.
before there used to be 70-150 people playing infected on any given time, 50-100+ doing crystalline, 30-80+ doing khitomer, not to mention plenty of other queues also saw some activity like undine infiltration, vicious cycle, rh'lhho station, the breach, gorn minefield, colony invasion, starbase defense.
the state of the queues is depressing, and this is supposed to be an expansion release.
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not even normal queues, they're just as dead, also i was including normal queues when i posted.
Imagine how much fun I had, how excited I was to find that the mission's enemies now took 3 times longer to kill and "optional" objectives were now required objectives. Imagine how much that fun and excitement compounded when we finally got to the end screen, and we got half the reward that was the previous norm.
Miission is harder, takes 3 times longer, gives half the reward, and you're wondering why the queues are dead?
that would make sense if not for the fact you can't progress in the story without grinding for exp, also LoR didn't kill the queues like DR did.
oh i'm not wondering, i know this is the reason, i'm just wondering when will cryptic admit it.
Players (New ones, casuals as well as seasoned veterans with massive investments into STO) all start talking about leaving the game just because of this.
Think the general STO player is used to painful grinds and slow rewards and could live with the cutback. However at the moment there is hardly anything to play with at all. Thats the problem which needs a solution. And it better be a quick one.
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When they aren't making money on it anymore. The thing is, the number of people playing the game isn't representative of the number of people giving them money. A small number of people pump unholy amounts of cash into the system aka "whales", and THOSE people probably don't even care about the queues because they have friends and fleet mates that are invested as they are, and organize private missions instead.
(Latest and greatest from Cryptic Clown Cohort - mentioning Asian mmo model grind and Cryptic's communist Chinese overlords = racism.)
This! I know, cause I used to be one of the whales.
Don't forget exploiter, you left that off your list.
uhh if you tried the new T6 ships you would see that other than more hull...they arent that special T5-U is comparable and in some cases more powerful
Edit: I know, cry baby, shouldn't have expected to win, etc, etc. I'm sure posting about it is an exploit anyway.
Normal can stay the same for new/super casual players. Advanced needs the same treatment that Crystalline got. That is absolutely perfect now.
I also see the specter of racism or nationalism in this complaints about "Chinese company." Who cares where the company is located? Is it a cue that you are meant to hate it because its from China?
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Yes, because PR China is not a single party state bordering on toalitariansim and there is no such thing as Asian grind mmo model.
I am sure that PWE management made from middle aged Chinese with ties to Communist Party of China has a huge respect for western playerbase.
I am also sure People's Republic of China based company is exactly the same as if it was based in say Germany, Latvia, Brazil or New Zealand. With comparable ethics and values.
If it makes you feel better it would be equal crud on a stick if it was made by say the Swiss, Asian grinder model made by PRC based company is just cherry on top.
At the height of the cold war Chekov was Russian. My guess is you won't like what humanity looks and sounds like in 2410, nor will you like their way of life.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Precisely and even if one doesnt pug entirely there is a state now generated where every inexperienced player can ruin the pve due to fail criteria and every player who does not contribute with at least 10k DPS weakens the group due to former optional timer.
Playing Normal is not a solution for basically everyone because of rewards and lack of any challenge.
Playing Advanced is only suited for a very small croup of players protected by elite chanels or advanced premades for the respective contend.
Cryptic killed the core aspect of endgame and this addresses 90% of all players --> They diminished the success of the AVARAGE TEAM!
All this advanced stuff is fine and good and I even like it when I want to run it with the right group.
Taking away the old Elite is the one and only mistake done because it was a running system balanced out in years of play by thousands of STO players (Veterans, DPS crowd, Newbes and Casuals alike).
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advanced needs either a nerf bat on hp (back for old elite like they promised) or make the mandatory missions (eg dont let 1 sphere heal a generator) optional again.
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You do understand the difference between fiction and reality right?
My guess is not.
However to make it real simple for you, outsorcing various industries to China didn't help US economy so I'll venture to claim this is in the same vein.
Low quality overpriced crud.
better not to argue with a white knight that says "I'd be perfectly fine if I took 12 months to hit level 60"
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A better idea for Advanced queues is a staged level of success.
1. Old elite without optional is the basic reward with module
2. Old elite with optional is the bonus reward with module
3. Final stage is new Advance requirement (reduced time for completion and new options) with a double bonus reward and two modules
This way a player and team that achieve final stage will know they are ready for Elite mode.
Right, my bad, I forgot I am touching his holy cause.
Just for him and his ilk I am glad the game will get ever more grindy and cash costly (when new monetization experts sink their teeth into it).
Im very sorry the game has come to this.
3 of my 8 toons are dedicated towards dps in space. They seem to contribute. The rest can still do some good like putting a grav well or tractor beam repulsors at the right targets in the right moments but according to math another player has to make up for their lack of dps.
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I finished the story missions now there's no incentive to keep playing.
Also if the argument is to upgrade so you can do advanced, for one you need resources to do that, and the material drops in normal is going to hamper that. You can't get enough dilithium on normal either. Finally I upgraded my 22k dps JHDC to mk13 & a couple of mk x14 beams, and it is now at 24.5k dps. So roughly 10%. If you follow that trend at mk14 I will do another 10% so 27k more or less. That's not a lot more. If you apply that to a 5k boat the difference is minimal.
Cryptic increased the difficulty but did not do anything to help the masses. So now everyone fails unless it's a premade or you happen to have insane amounts of dps, and even then enough 2-4k players in your queue, or one troll and you fail.
The best solution is to roll back hp a bit more and turn the mandatory into optional again for advanced. Roll out an elite version of insane hp and mandatory optional if u want.
On the bright side the lack of incentive to keep playing has saved me money and is breaking my addiction to this game, so I guess thanks Cryptic?
^This and gating the game around dilithium then making everything in dependant on ridiculous amounts of it then just to be funny rather than lift the caps or raise them they nerf the amount we can do daily making goals that took ages take even longer.
They will eventally bring Advanced back to the old Elite when they see low numbers for what should be such a busy time period. The question will be, how long? Players are leaving in droves and once gone you can't be sure you'll get them back.
I think this is where many people are at. Most can say they loved the story missions but they only last so long. What else do you have to do afterwards? Endgame content normally but that content is now too hard, too long and not rewarding enough.
So what else can you now do in the game?
Nothing. So you leave and get over STO.
While everyone has the right to complain, this guy got it right.
Back before all the DPS power creep, using GW for CC in ISE and getting all the generators to 10% before blowing them up was standard practice. People got accostumed to pew pew and thats it since the Omega rep came out.
1) Buff dil/mark reward
2) Buff XP reward
Instead Cryptic ignore 2) and do the opposite of 1). :rolleyes:
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I have no interest in you miserable racist hate-filled boring reality. Turn of Fox News and try a show called Star Trek. Ever seen it?
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
I said 3 or 4 weeks. 12 months was on a different game.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."