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Upgrading Mk XIV to next quality - major ripoff!
monkeybone13
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I'm working on upgrading a very rare (purple) Mk XIV ground weapon to ultra rare quality. After upgrading it to purple I fully filled out the tech points to upgrade it again. Is it ultra rare now? NO!
Now it sits with nothing more than a 5% chance to increase its quality the next time I *attempt* to upgrade it.
All those improved tech upgrades I crafted and all that dilithium to upgrade its quality WASTED! This is nothing more than a major ripoff and it's going to cost a hell of a lot more dilithium then flat out buying an ultra rare fleet weapon.
But it's a Federation Type 1 Phaser I'm working on.
I would much rather have upgrading to next quality once you upgrade it to Mk XIV require more tech points with a guaranteed chance to upgrade it to the next quality.
But as it stands, this is nothing more than a flat out MAJOR dilithium sink.
128,064 tech points required to upgrade it at this point. Each improved tech upgrade (5k tech points each) makes it cost 950 dilithium. So that was about 24,320 dilithium I just wasted increasing only the chance to upgrade its quality, and that was only the first attempt to upgrade it to ultra rare.
So when is it going to upgrade to ultra rare? When I've spent about 2 million dilithium and have a 99% chance to upgrade its quality??
Thanks Cryptic for NOT listening to the playerbase on that one. :mad:
Now it sits with nothing more than a 5% chance to increase its quality the next time I *attempt* to upgrade it.
All those improved tech upgrades I crafted and all that dilithium to upgrade its quality WASTED! This is nothing more than a major ripoff and it's going to cost a hell of a lot more dilithium then flat out buying an ultra rare fleet weapon.
But it's a Federation Type 1 Phaser I'm working on.
I would much rather have upgrading to next quality once you upgrade it to Mk XIV require more tech points with a guaranteed chance to upgrade it to the next quality.
But as it stands, this is nothing more than a flat out MAJOR dilithium sink.
128,064 tech points required to upgrade it at this point. Each improved tech upgrade (5k tech points each) makes it cost 950 dilithium. So that was about 24,320 dilithium I just wasted increasing only the chance to upgrade its quality, and that was only the first attempt to upgrade it to ultra rare.
So when is it going to upgrade to ultra rare? When I've spent about 2 million dilithium and have a 99% chance to upgrade its quality??
Thanks Cryptic for NOT listening to the playerbase on that one. :mad:
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Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Lol, this post made me laugh the hardest in a long while. TY
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Your better off using Superior uprgades, u get 12,800 TP and cost just over 1k dil vs only getting 5k TP and costing u 950 dil.
Yep that is exactly what they want u to do, that's why they made the upgrade system the way it is.
About 26 improved tech upgrades X 7,500 EC each (when crafting them yourself)= 195,000 EC
About 65 basic tech upgrades X 2,500 EC each (when crafting them yourself) = 162,500
But you need to be at least level 5 in the crafting school to craft basic tech upgrades and level 10 for improved, in the right school for what type of item you want to upgrade.
You have other options if you aren't high enough level yet to craft tech upgrades in the school you need to craft them in:
65 Basic tech upgrade at ground equipment vendor X 10,000 EC each = 650,000 EC to attempt to upgrade a very rare Mk XIV ground weapon to ultra rare quality.
Or buy tech upgrades in the exchange for who-knows-how-much.
All of this is without using any Accelerators. At the time of writing, green quality 1.5x Technology Boosts (Accelerators) are going for 390,000+ EC in the exchange, and that is the cheapest I'm seeing for any Accelerator. If using Accelerators it would cost a lot more to upgrade.
You have to be level 15 in a crafting school to even craft superior tech upgrades. Level 11 is the max I have in any crafting school. For ground weapons, which is the type of item I'm upgrading, I have it at level 10. Nowhere near close to being able to craft the tech upgrades I need.
Superior Tech Upgrades in the exchange cost 718,000 and up at this time. I would need about 11 superior tech to make another attempt, so that would cost me around 7,898,00 or more, which is astronomically more than just buying the 10k EC basic tech from a ground equipment vendor. It would probably be way, way cheaper to craft on my own, which is what I would prefer to do since players like charging huge amounts for stuff. FFS! Basic tech upgrades start at 5k more in the exchange then buying them from the ground vendor.
But at this rate it will probably be months before I reach level 15 in any crafting school doing basically only the 6k XP daily project. And I can't bring myself to log in every single friggen day to keep up with it.
How about you go play a game of 'hide and go flog yourself'!
well just hand over your pay for the next ten years and remember thats only one ship build.10 char and and say 5 ship build per char = 664,182,500 dilithium and 1,225,000,000,000 EC.
OK that great how do l sign the deeds of my house over.
but Wait you can craft stuff to make it alot cheaper .and remember the game isn't designed to finish everything in One week. Doing it the cheap way by crafting and grinding still could take upto about 2 years to upgrade everything for free (so to speak).
BUT STILL BELIEVE IT"S WAY to MUCH...
Its fully designed for the rich players to exploite the poor people on the Exchange
So whats unfair The Rich get everything and the poor get Nothing.Its called buisness!!!!
There is no fair in Buisness.
You mean grind dil in DR? Amounts to the same thing.
Currently there are far too many Dil sinks (works out cheaper to buy everything for EC off the exchange even at the exorbitant prices) to make any of the new systems worth looking at. I've done crafting in many different MMO's not one of them insulted the player as hard as this one. Even the silly price of large bags in Guild Wars 2 is EASY to stomach compared to this bollocks.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
There were a few grinds, mainly for the Epic gear from dungeons, but that's pretty commonplace and you can equate that to the MACO/Omega/Dyson type gear. However none of it required their currency, just time and patience and playing the game. This is where PWE/Cryptic have lost the plot. Have the cosmetics be the cost, have the game be the game. It's not a hard act to follow, but these guys are really making it hard...
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
Some of us are already lvl 15 in some of the schools. If you have the materials and stuff, most of us will make the stuff for you. I myself have beams 15 and have helped a few people in the past few weeks.
Really hoping that you dont spend time using the low level 10 and lvl 5 upgrade stuff. Its a waste of money (dill/zen)
As for the upgrading. I have used salvaged tech with the next level upgrades and so far 3 percent increase rare doesn help me as it resets everytime you use salvage superiour tech upgrade.
I think part of the system is flawed. Most of my weapons is mk14 and unless the epics change, i wont spend 212 000 tech points to get the different color of my mk14. i think some folks should be really wasting if you push something beyond mk14.
What i dont get is how the space shield of the undine counter command was 9000 shields at mk13, delta rising launches and my shields dropped to 7000. Now upgrading to mk14 on that, i will get what i had before.
Sorry it took you so long to realize what the upgrade system really is.
Working as intended, either invest insane amount of time or open up your wallet for zen to dil conversion.
There are players that gathered too much zen/dil and it has to go somewhere.
That, on top of the utterly broken exchange, makes any investment a suicide.
If you ask me, STO got brought by a Ferengi.
(for 100% chance of upgrade)
Dil: 400k (F-->E)+200k (P-->F)+ 25k (MK12-2-MK14). Thats 600k+
EC: At 1.5 mil an average console price, thats 900mil+.
So yes, it's fine. A Ferengi would say: I volunteer to do it for you for 400k dil and 500 million on my risk.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
/shrug.
Just buy Ultra Rare Fleet Mk 10s and upgrade from there... if you hit epic good if not your UR Mk 14s... thou it's probably cheaper to buy UR Mk 12s... but then you loose out of 2 chances to hit epic.
frankly this upgrade is pure cash grab money sink...
I'm thinking of staying with ultra rare mk 12 fleet.
Been said a bagillion times, R+D needs a revamp, at least HALF it's cost would be a start in the right direction.
only as a start
(which would be 96,000 dil a day) costs to much to do "fun" R+D play
also note 615 zen at an exchange rate of 156 dil per zen.
scary if i was buying that, which i am gladly not