When the code in the game runs as programmed IT'S NOT AN EXPLOIT. No one TRIBBLE a server, no forced a dev to put in some poorly thought out code.
You can call it lack of imagination on the part of the developers, it's a stretch to even call it a bug, and It's definitely not an exploit, unless running the game as it's programmed is an exploit and then who is and isn't guilty depends on a set of Fizbin like rules that change as they are written.
It's players who stumbled onto a way to level up faster. Before people try to call me out, I didn't participate....because I didn't know, not because I think it's wrong.
Space the final frontier. These are the voyages of [your name here] on a five year mission to gain one level after the delta rising xp nerf.
Love how PWE see gaining Dilithium as theft as it's not people paying Zen...
Chris Robert's on SC:
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
Yeah I had something in mind like they should block marauding entirely, just remove the contraband or maybe make the turn in contraband be a weely or 72 hours.
I mean they have to nerf something right and that's the only thing left so 1+1=2
In line with a total ban on people just relaxing and earning gotta pick up the red bat-phone and get on the horn with the fun police, we can't let it stand
Then send in a fun-police strike team with f16 stealth bombers and artillery from the sea to get that contraband dil out of the caves
It's now like a bad relationship to me and I just want it over so by all means hurry up and nerf contraband and marauding
Yeah I had something in mind like they should block marauding entirely, just remove the contraband or maybe make the turn in contraband be a weely or 72 hours.
I mean they have to nerf something right and that's the only thing left so 1+1=2
In line with a total ban on people just relaxing and earning gotta pick up the red bat-phone and get on the horn with the fun police, we can't let it stand
Then send in a fun-police strike team with f16 stealth bombers and artillery from the sea to get that contraband dil out of the caves
It's now like a bad relationship to me and I just want it over so by all means hurry up and nerf contraband and marauding
They may nerf contraband collecting I don't think they would do it for marauding, It would be a death blow to the KDF.Marauding is Cryptic's lazy apology for neglecting Klingon content.
They already halved the EC,s earned from vendor trashing warp cores, impulse engines, shields, and deflector arrays, I can't see them doing it again. Perhaps the Rep box trash we get?
They already halved the EC,s earned from vendor trashing warp cores, impulse engines, shields, and deflector arrays, I can't see them doing it again. Perhaps the Rep box trash we get?
I should shut up, I might give them ideas.
My precious loot drops... That is where nearly all the EC originates from.
If enemies seem too easy, or you're able to repeat it over and over without interruption, or you're leveling 10x faster than anywhere else, or you're able to squire far more dilithium than should be reasonably possible, or any combination of the above, then it should be fairly obvious its not worming as intended and should be considered an exploit. Now, to be clears an exploit isn't an exploit until players start abusing it. If you find that you're able to do any of the aforementioned things, according to cryptic, its OK to do them once in a while, but dont overdo it. Report it if you find it. Exploitation happens when greedy players do that same thing all day long, over and over, nonstop, to the point that they far surpass everyone else.
Yep, because if it was about an exploited bug with the level matching system they wouldn't have nerfed elite xp.
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Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Yep, because if it was about an exploited bug with the level matching system they wouldn't have nerfed elite xp.
First of all that comment passed a while ago and second of all They didn't Nerf xp they fixed it. Other than incorrectly matching player levels all NPCs in the game were giving out !more xp than intended. So they reduced xp to the right level.
1) You invalidate everything in your game's loot table by introducing superior items behind a dill or zen paywall.
2) You obsolete every ship in your game and charge money to restore them to their previous competence equivalent to content.
3) You lied about number 2. You told people nothing would be obsolete, and prior to this you promised that any level cap increase applied to the game would introduce the command of multiple ships, thus avoiding any possibility of the obsolesce of our end game ships. You lied there too.
4) You replace the crafting system in your game with a lottery but continue to call it crafting.
5) You listen to the needs of the long time players of your game and introduce a loadout feature to make their lives easier, but you release it broken so that it actually makes their lives more difficult and then you ignore the feature.
6) You avoid ever commenting in writing about anything unless you absolutely have to, but you occasionally go on podcasts and call the players of your game winey babies there, because you know there wont be an easily referenced transcript.
7) You plan to monetize experience gain in your game and project sales of exp boosting items, but fail to meet those projections because you rushed the implementation of your new system.
8) You pretend your players have exploited your new system but refuse to specify the nature of the exploit because it dose not in fact exist. You take the amount of time that people have spent in game and find their EXP gain to time ratio, then blanket role back every one who exceeded your intended average.
9) You make your 2nd post in a year on the forums for your game, in order to affirm that every one who put time and effort into leveling efficiently is in fact an exploiter regardless of the method used, as you refuse to state a method that can be disputed.
10) You tell people to make a ticket for support if they feel they have been wrongly rolled back knowing that support never looks into anything and just copies and pastes unrelated items as responses.
That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.
If enemies seem too easy, or you're able to repeat it over and over without interruption, or you're leveling 10x faster than anywhere else, or you're able to squire far more dilithium than should be reasonably possible, or any combination of the above, then it should be fairly obvious its not worming as intended and should be considered an exploit. Now, to be clears an exploit isn't an exploit until players start abusing it. If you find that you're able to do any of the aforementioned things, according to cryptic, its OK to do them once in a while, but dont overdo it. Report it if you find it. Exploitation happens when greedy players do that same thing all day long, over and over, nonstop, to the point that they far surpass everyone else.
Because they cannot tell us what the 'exploit' was, I am just left with an assumption of what this last 'exploit' may have been. I assume that players were using an old map that was working as intended for its time. However, I hear that players reported the 'exploit' before it went live, so it may have been obvious.
A less obvious 'exploit' was with the rep boxes. (Forgive me for going into details) People stockpiled their rep boxes, in stead of opening them up immediately, so they could cash in during the rep weekend. At the time, it must've seemed like a perfectly honest thing to do (a genius idea that follows the principle: patience is a virtue). I didn't do it at the time, but I would have. I would have been saving up boxes like I saved up zen for DR. It's not an exploit in RL, it is called saving up, patience, etc.
A less obvious 'exploit' was with the rep boxes. (Forgive me for going into details) People stockpiled their rep boxes, in stead of opening them up immediately, so they could cash in during the rep weekend. At the time, it must've seemed like a perfectly honest thing to do (a genius idea that follows the principle: patience is a virtue). I didn't do it at the time, but I would have. I would have been saving up boxes like I saved up zen for DR. It's not an exploit in RL, it is called saving up, patience, etc.
Wait.. that's an exploit? Maybe they should stop giving us boxes then or is it just too complicated for them to change?
It's all an exploit, none of it is supposed to allow you to advance. That's basically what the announcement was about apparently, nothing we do is considered normal gameplay so long as it can save your job when you make a mistake.
My daily bonus mark packages often stays in my inventory instead of auto opening, am I an exploiter if I save them for next bonus mark event....
I got a nice stack of them now.
I better open them right away right? :P
If you open to many during a bonus mark event, then on heinsight Cryptic will announce you are part of a small group of exploiters, who opened more boxes during such an event then Cryptic anticipated, your items will be confiscated.
Same counts if you convert to much marks into dilli during an event.
After a week some one will step out of Cryptics Ivory tower, and drop an official message about it calling players exploiters and claim players should have known they are exploiting (then rushes quickly back into the Ivory Tower).
Mainly because you were replying to the most recent episode... Something that is already being discussed in countless other threads, making it too specific to be of relevance.
The op asked a general question.
Questions are OP, plz nerf, nerfing is an exploit so, questions are a bannable offense, please restate the question, in the form of a sentence.
Questions are OP, plz nerf, nerfing is an exploit so, questions are a bannable offense, please restate the question, in the form of a sentence.
Worried. These last few exploits just didn't seem so obvious based on what I have been hearing. Inquiry. I am open to suggestions upon which is Cryptic's definition of exploit. Gratitude. A clear, fail-safe suggestion will be the most help full.
Worried. These last few exploits just didn't seem so obvious based on what I have been hearing. Inquiry. I am open to suggestions upon which is Cryptic's definition of exploit. Gratitude. A clear, fail-safe suggestion will be the most help full.
Now you got it, this will keep the ban hammer from falling down upon you in the future!
I wasn't being serious but since you point it out, what? cryptic does something stupid its a conspiracy to get money, when players do something stupid its just stupidity?
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You can call it lack of imagination on the part of the developers, it's a stretch to even call it a bug, and It's definitely not an exploit, unless running the game as it's programmed is an exploit and then who is and isn't guilty depends on a set of Fizbin like rules that change as they are written.
It's players who stumbled onto a way to level up faster. Before people try to call me out, I didn't participate....because I didn't know, not because I think it's wrong.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
I used to play more PWE games...I wonder which one is left that I'm still playing. For now.
Sarah Knightly - Co-leader; Frontier Explorers - U.S.S. Witchblade
Rias Gremory - Leader; Frontier Marauders - I.K.S. B'ullwinkle
I mean they have to nerf something right and that's the only thing left so 1+1=2
In line with a total ban on people just relaxing and earning gotta pick up the red bat-phone and get on the horn with the fun police, we can't let it stand
Then send in a fun-police strike team with f16 stealth bombers and artillery from the sea to get that contraband dil out of the caves
It's now like a bad relationship to me and I just want it over so by all means hurry up and nerf contraband and marauding
They may nerf contraband collecting I don't think they would do it for marauding, It would be a death blow to the KDF.Marauding is Cryptic's lazy apology for neglecting Klingon content.
What else is there to go after?
Pitiful enough to go after vendor trash then from that perspective, you best believe contraband is a huge leak free give-away of dil that has to stop.
Think of all the zen-to-dil they losing from it.
I should shut up, I might give them ideas.
My precious loot drops... That is where nearly all the EC originates from.
I got this thoron infused polaron, and I only spent a few ECs and some marks.... I'M AN EXPLOIT!!!
Anyways, I take it then that the community does not know how to tell, what is by Cryptic's definition, an exploit.
Yep, because if it was about an exploited bug with the level matching system they wouldn't have nerfed elite xp.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
First of all that comment passed a while ago and second of all They didn't Nerf xp they fixed it. Other than incorrectly matching player levels all NPCs in the game were giving out !more xp than intended. So they reduced xp to the right level.
1) You invalidate everything in your game's loot table by introducing superior items behind a dill or zen paywall.
2) You obsolete every ship in your game and charge money to restore them to their previous competence equivalent to content.
3) You lied about number 2. You told people nothing would be obsolete, and prior to this you promised that any level cap increase applied to the game would introduce the command of multiple ships, thus avoiding any possibility of the obsolesce of our end game ships. You lied there too.
4) You replace the crafting system in your game with a lottery but continue to call it crafting.
5) You listen to the needs of the long time players of your game and introduce a loadout feature to make their lives easier, but you release it broken so that it actually makes their lives more difficult and then you ignore the feature.
6) You avoid ever commenting in writing about anything unless you absolutely have to, but you occasionally go on podcasts and call the players of your game winey babies there, because you know there wont be an easily referenced transcript.
7) You plan to monetize experience gain in your game and project sales of exp boosting items, but fail to meet those projections because you rushed the implementation of your new system.
8) You pretend your players have exploited your new system but refuse to specify the nature of the exploit because it dose not in fact exist. You take the amount of time that people have spent in game and find their EXP gain to time ratio, then blanket role back every one who exceeded your intended average.
9) You make your 2nd post in a year on the forums for your game, in order to affirm that every one who put time and effort into leveling efficiently is in fact an exploiter regardless of the method used, as you refuse to state a method that can be disputed.
10) You tell people to make a ticket for support if they feel they have been wrongly rolled back knowing that support never looks into anything and just copies and pastes unrelated items as responses.
I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
Because they cannot tell us what the 'exploit' was, I am just left with an assumption of what this last 'exploit' may have been. I assume that players were using an old map that was working as intended for its time. However, I hear that players reported the 'exploit' before it went live, so it may have been obvious.
A less obvious 'exploit' was with the rep boxes. (Forgive me for going into details) People stockpiled their rep boxes, in stead of opening them up immediately, so they could cash in during the rep weekend. At the time, it must've seemed like a perfectly honest thing to do (a genius idea that follows the principle: patience is a virtue). I didn't do it at the time, but I would have. I would have been saving up boxes like I saved up zen for DR. It's not an exploit in RL, it is called saving up, patience, etc.
I got a nice stack of them now.
I better open them right away right? :P
Back then it was not labeled an 'exploit', but today is after Cryptic labeled it as an 'exploit'.
Wait.. that's an exploit?
If you open to many during a bonus mark event, then on heinsight Cryptic will announce you are part of a small group of exploiters, who opened more boxes during such an event then Cryptic anticipated, your items will be confiscated.
Same counts if you convert to much marks into dilli during an event.
After a week some one will step out of Cryptics Ivory tower, and drop an official message about it calling players exploiters and claim players should have known they are exploiting (then rushes quickly back into the Ivory Tower).
I think that might be the idea, look at all the fake exloit reporting threads
they're prob trying to flood the devs with fake reports so they don't notice the real ones
Questions are OP, plz nerf, nerfing is an exploit so, questions are a bannable offense, please restate the question, in the form of a sentence.
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
Worried. These last few exploits just didn't seem so obvious based on what I have been hearing. Inquiry. I am open to suggestions upon which is Cryptic's definition of exploit. Gratitude. A clear, fail-safe suggestion will be the most help full.
Now you got it, this will keep the ban hammer from falling down upon you in the future!
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
I wasn't being serious but since you point it out, what? cryptic does something stupid its a conspiracy to get money, when players do something stupid its just stupidity?