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Nerf here, Nerf there are you tired of it?

karr007karr007 Member Posts: 105 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
First off this is not complaint about the locked tau dewa patrols, which appear to be the hot topic now. This is more about the Scaling down. Why should i lvl 60 be scaled down in the undine space battle zone? OH nooo you played, you farmed, you payed but you can not play as lvl 60 against lvl 50 undine, go show off somewhere else. Why we should be scaled down in the lower instances? Even if you grind all there is to grind in a lot of cases you are nerfed with this scaling down. Why is it necessary?
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  • strykewolf67strykewolf67 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Because $$, that's why.
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  • serevnserevn Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I don't see the issue. You still have your new traits, ships, specializations, and gear. So it says your fighting at level 50? So? You still have everything that makes level 60 matter.
  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Nah. It is out of my control, no point getting upset over it. When I no longer have fun, I'll stop playing.
  • guilli88guilli88 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It's all to line the pockets of their publisher; PWE.

    Expect even more ways to squeeze every penny out of you.
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  • cowbertcowbert Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Actually it might not be a bad idea to have you stay at level 60 shooting level 50 mobs. That way you'll gain the proper (i.e. lower) XP for shooting the lower level mob, instead of gaining a xp that a level 50 shooting level 50 mobs would gain. I think the main problem is that loot tables tend to favor damage dealers though? So loot drops (EC distribution) would be lopsided whenever level 60 people go into level 50 areas.
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Eh, after living through several expansions worth of nerfs/patches/adjustments/etc in WoW? Nah, I'm pretty used to MMOs making all sorts of adjustments. Without deciding it's some great conspiracy. /shrug



    (Man, the raging over this Tau thing is pretty /popcorn to watch. It's hilarious how many people didn't see it coming a mile away. Seriously, every MMO I've played, when some super-duper-uber farming strategy was found - be it XP, gold, equipment, whatever - it was promptly squished. Basic hint - if it seems too good to be true, it is. And don't expect it to last.)
  • trelane87trelane87 Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    strykewolf67 wrote: »
    Because $$, that's why.

    This ^

    That and the devs are mad because eveyone hates the new 'content' / Episode Patrol missions... whatever they are. And yes it is very irritating and I can tell others feel the same because my friend list which usually peaks at 10-12 online has been peaking at 3-4 since DR launched. Ignore the claims this launch was a success, it was an epic fail.
  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I think we should assemble a master nerf list.

    Reducing mission rewards, cutting out loot boxes, etc
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  • guilli88guilli88 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Logging out should cost Dilithium.
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  • karr007karr007 Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    serevn wrote: »
    I don't see the issue. You still have your new traits, ships, specializations, and gear. So it says your fighting at level 50? So? You still have everything that makes level 60 matter.

    Well it is very frustrating especially when my tac oddy get nerfed to 60k hull instead of my regular lvl 59 81k. My Crit chance is also nerfed (little but still). and oh yes almost every single one stat is. All their exploit problems will be solved if NPC give constant xp value based on their Level and if we are allowed to blast them with our shiny toys at full capacity.

    EDIT: Here is something else, imagine you are a lvl 54 new player you have found a few good things, but you are still far behind for the advanced events. Well at least you will complete normal faster. WAIT - you won't because you are scaled down.
  • jarfarujarfaru Member Posts: 579 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It really does seem that all the real money was spent on the voice acting. This is why i have always hated it most times
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    karr007 wrote: »
    First off this is not complaint about the locked tau dewa patrols, which appear to be the hot topic now. This is more about the Scaling down. Why should i lvl 60 be scaled down in the undine space battle zone? OH nooo you played, you farmed, you payed but you can not play as lvl 60 against lvl 50 undine, go show off somewhere else. Why we should be scaled down in the lower instances? Even if you grind all there is to grind in a lot of cases you are nerfed with this scaling down. Why is it necessary?

    because that BZ opens at lvl 50 to players. It's a lvl 50 area.
  • karr007karr007 Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    tekehd wrote: »
    because that BZ opens at lvl 50 to players. It's a lvl 50 area.

    I have no problems with that - there are lvl 50 npc, giving lvl 50 xp and dropping lvl 50 loot (green and white mk 11 mostly). What i ask is why is it necessary to be nerfed while playing this lvl 50 content? Can i play it and get the same rewards but keep my lvl 60 stats.
  • rsoblivionrsoblivion Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    cowbert wrote: »
    Actually it might not be a bad idea to have you stay at level 60 shooting level 50 mobs. That way you'll gain the proper (i.e. lower) XP for shooting the lower level mob, instead of gaining a xp that a level 50 shooting level 50 mobs would gain. I think the main problem is that loot tables tend to favor damage dealers though? So loot drops (EC distribution) would be lopsided whenever level 60 people go into level 50 areas.

    Right that's it. Enough of that logical exploitative reasoning...

    On a more serious note, who's up for TRIBBLE some Undine before it gets nerf batted?
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  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    karr007 wrote: »
    I have no problems with that - there are lvl 50 npc, giving lvl 50 xp and dropping lvl 50 loot (green and white mk 11 mostly). What i ask is why is it necessary to be nerfed while playing this lvl 50 content? Can i play it and get the same rewards but keep my lvl 60 stats.

    Because it's a lvl 50 zone. In cooperative combat zones players are leveled to a common tier. Lvl 50 for these battle zones, over on Nimbus you would be level 26. You are already bringing some extra things to the table being past 50....... you don't need to be facerolling NPC's and taking away targets from lvl 50 chars which need the area for progression.
  • karr007karr007 Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    tekehd wrote: »
    Because it's a lvl 50 zone. In cooperative combat zones players are leveled to a common tier. Lvl 50 for these battle zones, over on Nimbus you would be level 26. You are already bringing some extra things to the table being past 50....... you don't need to be facerolling NPC's and taking away targets from lvl 50 chars which need the area for progression.

    1st the area is not story based, neither is the voth battlezone or the borg one. So the character progression is minimal. Also the NPC in all adventure zones have high respawn rate so there is really no way to stop a player who need XP. The XP gained there is also minimal. And i am referring more to the endgame zones - Voth, Tholian, Undine, Borg - there are hardly any players for xp there, and the story content is minimal to say (even that may be overstatement). All i am asking is to remove this ridiculous constant scaling up and down and let me be LVL 60 just as before i was able to be almost everywhere lvl 50. Before the Scaling down was only on nimbus - now i feel like a YOYO - lvl 50 here, 60 there, 30 in the middle of nowhere.
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    guilli88 wrote: »
    Logging out should cost Dilithium.

    Paying should cost you Dilithium .

    Oh wait , it already does ... .

    Ok then ... -- if your Server Disconnected status reaches the 3 digit number , that should be for free !!

    ... on Tuesdays ...
  • betayuyabetayuya Member Posts: 1,059 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    Paying should cost you Dilithium .

    Oh wait , it already does ... .

    Ok then ... -- if your Server Disconnected status reaches the 3 digit number , that should be for free !!

    ... on Tuesdays ...

    that will be 3 Dil per letter, Comply.

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