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karcornerkarcorner Member Posts: 294 Arc User
Very last Delta Rising mission, last part, very last ship and guess what? It is stuck and un target-able, hour and a half wasted. Why should we pay money for TRIBBLE like this? It was okay when you were not blood sucking us dry with T6 ships and the dilithium sink you call R&D.

http://imgur.com/ZZNMg9X
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  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    DR is free...we paid for nothing
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    khan5000 wrote: »
    DR is free...we paid for nothing

    You sir dont know how F2P games work. We most definitely pay for it. Not everyone. But without someone paying...DR wouldnt be here.
  • tucana66tucana66 Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    khan5000 wrote: »
    DR is free...we paid for nothing

    Except I see a Chimera class ship... obtainable as a Veteran Reward. Which means the OP paid... as in, time invested in STO, $$ for the ISP and electricity bills. <g>
  • khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    You sir dont know how F2P games work. We most definitely pay for it. Not everyone. But without someone paying...DR wouldnt be here.

    I do know how F2P games work. Yes money we paid for stuff went towards them continuing to work. However my point stands...we did not pay for DR.
    Your pain runs deep.
    Let us explore it... together. Each man hides a secret pain. It must be exposed and reckoned with. It must be dragged from the darkness and forced into the light. Share your pain. Share your pain with me... and gain strength from the sharing.
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    khan5000 wrote: »
    DR is free...we paid for nothing

    You paid nothing
  • tanuustanuus Member Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Technically, you are correct, we paid nothing to have access to the DR content.

    DR is like a big slot machine sitting in front of you. You have money in your pocket. You can play the machine freely of your own will. You can walk away with empty pockets and nothing to show for it.

    Very few ppl are going to play this new content totally F2P. It's going to cost you $ to play at the level you are used to. If you don't want to pay, welcome to mediocrity. Good luck in that elite STF with your T5u ship and Mk XII gear. Maybe next year when you've refined enough dilly to upgrade your stuff.

    Oh wait. I can just buy the upgrade stuff off the exchange? Guess what, prices are skyrocketing because everyone's running out of mats to make it. Why are we running out of mats? Cause the content where you get the mats is almost unplayable for 80% of the ppl in the game. OR, not even there...

    I stopped paying this game for one reason: Cryptic doesn't deserve it.
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    khan5000 wrote: »
    I do know how F2P games work. Yes money we paid for stuff went towards them continuing to work. However my point stands...we did not pay for DR.

    Its a free game with a free expac...but the game still has to worry about player retention.


    I think that when a player leaves a game like STO that can be completely free and their reason is "the game is boring" it is even more serious. The game is free, the expacs are free, the ships they can be free too. When the reason for leaving is "the game is boring" and not "the game costs too much" which this one doesnt, that's when i would be worried. Why would i be worried? because when the reason is "too boring" that can drive away a 100% non paying player and it might also drive away a sub player, or an LTS player or a F2P player that still spends zen.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited October 2014
    Anger aside - I was one of the people who did pay.

    Great story, neat twists, mediocre ending. But that's not my issue.

    Earning potential slashed. Difficulty raised on STF's so that they now longer even resemble the missions. If the Vaadwaur had HALF the HP of an advanced, the game would not be completable by the majority of players. Add to that an R&D system requiring 511 days to complete, while making R&D materials so difficult to obtain the majority of players will give up long before they complete R&D.

    Yeah - seriously regretting dropping $250 for the ops pack and dilithium.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    karcorner wrote: »
    Very last Delta Rising mission, last part, very last ship and guess what? It is stuck and un target-able, hour and a half wasted. Why should we pay money for TRIBBLE like this? It was okay when you were not blood sucking us dry with T6 ships and the dilithium sink you call R&D.

    http://imgur.com/ZZNMg9X

    I had an issue similar to that on last FE. On ESD fighting the Undine, that last Undine boss got stuck in a wall and then fell off the map. Had to exit and repeat that mission because with the boss fallen off the map but not killed.... no way to trigger success.
  • darkdog13darkdog13 Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    First off i know Cryptic is a business and they need money to pay employees and make a profit to keep investors happy.

    Since season 7 Cryptic has been increasing the amount of Monetization in game (aka cstore/lobi ships/anything that cost zen or dilithium) while also reducing ingame rewards on things like dilithium and energy credits.

    Recently they revamped the crafting system and introduced the upgrade system which are really just slot machines that are meant to take mass amount of dilithium and ec out of the economy and entice players to buy zen and convert into dilithium or ec.

    The crafting and upgrade system are huge money grabs.
    For crafting if you want a mk 12 beam array with say [crtd]x3 you will have to craft about 100 beam array on average to get the one you want. Each one costs you thousands of dilithium and millions of ec to craft meaning by the time you get the one you want to have probably spent $50 real us dollars. (add in the reduction/removal of items from npc mobs and they are pretty much forcing players to use the crafting system or fleet/rep items)

    The upgrade system is of the same idea costing players mass amount of dilithium/ec just to go from mk 12 to mk 14 is somwhere around $50-$80. If you want epic its about $700-$1000 for a whole ship.

    Costume/pets/cosmetic or convenience items are a great way to make money and not upset game balance and even ships if properly balanced can be great for the game.

    Meanwhile things like lockboxes/crafting system and upgrade system are just slot machines that upset game balance by adding op ships/gear and traits.
  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    You sir dont know how F2P games work. We most definitely pay for it. Not everyone. But without someone paying...DR wouldnt be here.

    Technically, he is right. Delta Rising was free. The stuff on the C store and all those subscriptions, yeah, you did pay. But The expansion, no you did not.
    "A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP"

    -Leonard Nimoy, RIP
  • nesomumi2nesomumi2 Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    karcorner wrote: »
    Very last Delta Rising mission, last part, very last ship and guess what? It is stuck and un target-able, hour and a half wasted. Why should we pay money for TRIBBLE like this? It was okay when you were not blood sucking us dry with T6 ships and the dilithium sink you call R&D.

    http://imgur.com/ZZNMg9X

    why would you pay? i didn't.

    playing for 4 years, have everything, except life sub. ofcores.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Enemies have been getting stuck in things since January 2010, no need to drama queen about it when the game has some bigger issues that need to be addressed.
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