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Phantom Escort vs Defiant...

rsoblivionrsoblivion Member Posts: 809 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Federation Discussion
Is it just me or is this the Defiant we all wanted?

It's got built in Cloak, same BOFF layout except Ensign is Uni and the Lt Eng is now LT Com Eng.

It equals the Fleet Defiant with it's 5 Tac consoles and I bet it's fleet variant gets a 4th Eng console.

Not only that it gets it's Tac Com as Intel and/or it's Sci as Intel.

Looks like a really good base to build off unlike the normal Defiant/Fleet Defiant which could bring it back into contention for PvP and PvE...

My question is why didn't they just link it with the Defiant for parts as it clearly has the same dimensions...
Chris Robert's on SC:
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
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  • raptor2112raptor2112 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I just bought the Phantom Escort it's a true Predator
    Surprise ambushes and hit-and-run with large amounts of DPS :D
  • entrailsgaloreentrailsgalore Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Hm, interesting... I just upgraded my Defiant to T5U, but the phantom looks appealing as a Defiant replacement. I would just hate to ditch my defiant, but if the Phantom can outclass and out dps the defiant in every way, I'd invest another $30 bucks to unlock it.

    Has anyone who has the Phantom done any parsing yet to see how it compares?
  • firekeeperhufirekeeperhu Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    rsoblivion wrote: »
    Is it just me or is this the Defiant we all wanted?

    It's got built in Cloak, same BOFF layout except Ensign is Uni and the Lt Eng is now LT Com Eng.

    It equals the Fleet Defiant with it's 5 Tac consoles and I bet it's fleet variant gets a 4th Eng console.

    Not only that it gets it's Tac Com as Intel and/or it's Sci as Intel.

    Looks like a really good base to build off unlike the normal Defiant/Fleet Defiant which could bring it back into contention for PvP and PvE...

    My question is why didn't they just link it with the Defiant for parts as it clearly has the same dimensions...

    i would seriously pay zen to fly the phantom with defiant skin. its clearly a better ship, but nothing beats the good old defiant's looks.
    <3 Defiant <3

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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It looks like something I might have personally designed, a super Defiant.
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  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited October 2014
    Purely an anecdote, but it's comparable. I have noted that while doing DR content the new Intel skills - or a reliance on traditional debuffs are a must. DPS only builds can work, but you're easily ensnared and destroyed.

    Stunning moment of revelation... I have it set at elite.

    Well then...
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Saddest thread ever. I hate to see Defiant left behind, once again.
  • torgaddon101torgaddon101 Member Posts: 600 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    what are u prepare to give up?

    TT or CRF ?
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It feels a bit like it, yes. And it also looks the part to an extent, too. Probably most visible in a way with the warp nacelles (especially if you use a color pattern you'll see similiarites in where the colors are applied.)

    Still would like to be able to fly a Tier 6 Defiant, but as long as I cannot, this is gonna be as close as it will get.
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  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'm glad I took the chance on the phantom. That thing is a buzzsaw.

    If they allow the quad cannons on it (don't think they are right now) I might by that defiant that has them.
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  • nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    svindal777 wrote: »
    I'm glad I took the chance on the phantom. That thing is a buzzsaw.

    If they allow the quad cannons on it (don't think they are right now) I might by that defiant that has them.

    I was finally able to load my quad cannons on the Intel Escort last night
  • rsoblivionrsoblivion Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yeah it was a bug that they couldn't be loaded onto it.

    I really wish it wasn't considered a separate ship to the Defiant as it clearly is what the Defiant always should have been. Works really well both with Cannon's or Beams though loses out to the Faeht Wardbird in that it can't slot GW1 for that cone of death control for Cannon's.

    However there is an interesting Beam build floating around which is a little expensive due to reliance on some expensive DOFF's, but certainly worth the effort.

    Sao Paulo parts for the new defiant please!!!

    Oh and why can only the originating ship mount the Beta nacelles of the different types? I'd really appreciate both the Scryer and Eclipse beta nacelles on it too, and vice versa for the other intel ships.
    Chris Robert's on SC:
    "You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
  • chuckingramchuckingram Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    firekeeperhu wrote: »
    i would seriously pay zen to fly the phantom with defiant skin. its clearly a better ship, but nothing beats the good old defiant's looks.

    I agree with this, sort of. However, the Phantom skin has grown on me, being flashy and new. ;) The Phantom is a damn fine escort once you master it. GJ, Cryptic.
  • pulserazorpulserazor Member Posts: 590 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Its my favorite Star Trek, but I really dont like the STO Defiant, that boff seating is just too prohibitive. 3 ensign tac powers is silly. I would take that ensign boff seat away and replace it with a sci/eng or universal, or remove the 5th seat entirely and give the defiant a battle cloak.

    Then I would fly the Defiant for sure.
  • rsoblivionrsoblivion Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    pulserazor wrote:
    Its my favorite Star Trek, but I really dont like the STO Defiant, that boff seating is just too prohibitive. 3 ensign tac powers is silly. I would take that ensign boff seat away and replace it with a sci/eng or universal, or remove the 5th seat entirely and give the defiant a battle cloak.

    Then I would fly the Defiant for sure.

    That's exactly what the new Phantom does. The Ensign Tac is changed to Ensign Universal. The Tac Com and Lt Sci are both Intel interchangeable so you can switch between single target devastation and multi-target devastation if you have a normal Tac BoFF and an Intel Tac BoFF ready to change. Hell setup a keybind that switches between two presets of BoFF layouts and DoFF layouts and you'll have a pretty nasty setup

    Not to mention it has a Cloak built in so no console needed, unlike the Defiant so it gains what the original should have had. I don't think it's a battle cloak, but then I haven't tested that yet, mainly because lag normally allows a couple of hull hits through.
    Chris Robert's on SC:
    "You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
  • christianmacchristianmac Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I am really happy with the Phantom. The layout is good and with the override safties skill its like having 2 alpha strikes. Im still working on my build but so far im having lots of fun. Also look into kinetic magnet. there is nothing funner then watching HY plasma instakill torps hit other cubes
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