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jaguarskx
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I have seen quite a few AFK'ers in the elite queues; mostly in Undine Infiltration Elite. Short of cursing at them and reporting them as AFK, is there anything else that can be done about those parasite?
What happens when they are reported? Anything? Or does it just remain part of a log that may or may not be reviewed?
Could there be an option to kick the AFKer out of the game and also suffer a 1 hour cooldown to play any queue PvE if there is a unanimous vote by the other players?
What happens when they are reported? Anything? Or does it just remain part of a log that may or may not be reviewed?
Could there be an option to kick the AFKer out of the game and also suffer a 1 hour cooldown to play any queue PvE if there is a unanimous vote by the other players?
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long answer kicks would be even worst then afkers. remember we're on the internet and the internet is full of trolls and idiotss.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.
Which is why I suggested a unanimous vote. Sure, there's bound to be a troll or two in a missions, but I would assume not everyone will be a troll. So if it is 3 votes to kick but the 4th player abstains from voting or votes no, then the AFK'er remains.
I'm sorry to people who I, in the past, insulted, annoyed, etc.
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What penalties?
The second was this morning. Crystal Catastrophe Elite...was there, logged in, the whole time with serious jitter bug issues. Was still firing, dropping GWs, etc; on my end. Was bad but, seemed to be working. Suddenly my ship is at the edge of the map, match ends; 2 hour penalty.
After checking pathing, tracert, and a few websites; turns out that the ISP has been having intermittent, 100% packet losses, at random spots across the US(for the last week, plus)...with intermittent becoming constant...for the last 8 hours. :mad: Been re-running, and rechecking, periodically. Seems to be improving but, still not where it should be.
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That'd explain a few random afkers or people not... really involved much
Im hoping with DR and the new way its set up that if anyone goes AFK at any point it will cause the match to fail. Since failure is now an option, but we will see.
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Thing is, there are enough folks that troll pugs doing just that right now...with DR it will be that much worse. Basically a death to pugs, as folks will have to make friends - fly with them - and avoid all the nonsense that will exist in the pugs. Not a case of saying all pugs will be like that, and it's just a game - so it's not like we're finding cures for diseases, but our waste of time should be entertaining and not some troll's entertainment.
Your point system is flawed, but I see where you're coming from.
I don't think the point here is to punish those who try throughout the event but aren't doing as much damage, etc as others but to punish those who sit back, do nothing and reap an unjust reward.
Again, I tihnk if your abiulity to claim the reward is directly contributed to accumulated damage to boss and non-boss NPCs it would work much better. If you want, link the higher rewards to your score system but allow everyone who contributes throughout the event to claim a reward as well.
This way, AFKers who do little to nothing will get what they deserve: nothing.
Cryptic doesn't like coming to the forums because they don't like the attitude of people on the Internet but they force us to pug stf's with them.
Solution is to not force grouping. Because you cannot fix people.
I thought it would be easier to find a solution for AFK'ers than it would to find a cure to cancer. I guess I was wrong... oh wait, AFK'ers are a form of cancer... never mind...
I do my runs in the public que because I find it infuses a challenge. if there is an afk, or someone undergeared with little knowledge of the game, I win: the run is more enjoyable and engaging for me.
There is nothing that can be done about them because no matter what is done people who want to afk are going to find a way around whatever measures you create. A simple macro spamming shiled distribution would be enough to convince the server that you are active.
Seriously though, get in a big fleet, or join a stf channel.
AFKers will just know the amount then and do that and then stop. Not a total solution.
Sadly there are just things that any way you try to cure it just makes things worse, and this is very much one of them.
Putting the leaver penalty on the STFS was the worst thing STO ever did! before then everyone could just leave and re-queue and life went on.
Again, an attempted solution makes things worse on the honest ones.
There could be something said for a progressive penalty system, where the penalty becomes harsher when you do it too often. Then again, it could also just be punishing those with bad connections even harder.
Enlighten me, what would this magical number be?
The DPS scoring you put there just incentivizes going full DPS and drowning out the rest of the teams DPS. The combat log would have to get way better to do anything meaningful because right now it doesn't register a lot of stuff.
As to useless damage in the Borg STF, I have an idea (I may be talking nonsense so prepared for backlash). Let the generators and transformers give something ridiculous like 999% defense and 100% resistance to everything to their targets. Wasted DPS problem solved since I don't think devs envisioned 30k+ DPS ships FAWing away at everything.
On the matter of 30k boats and ISE:
Right now, every hit that lands on the "protected" targets - generator-boosted transformer, Transformer boosted gateway, etc. "counts" as an actual hit for purposes of damage done - but does not "affect" the mission because said damage is fully healed as soon as it lands...
Creates situations where a 5 million HP gateway "takes" 10 million in damage. Of course, when there's "effectively more HP" out there because of heals, overall DPS numbers can be inflated...
However, if the "protected" targets had 100% resistance, then the combat log would read akin to "Player's Brand X Array Fire at Will does 0 [1,500] damage to gateway" - or something akin to that - at this point, the parsers that parse "effective" damage - aka damage that actually landed, would show a much lower DPS number, even though the better parsers that show base damage would show higher numbers (say, a Scim with a "baseline" 8k only does 10k effective because of all those zeroes, instead of 30k because of piles of high-damage hits landing just to be healed...)
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I do LOTS of STFs... but I don't PUG them.
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In PUG at least there's some skill required.
Pre-made teams and/or DPS channel teams are incredibly mind numbing.