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torgaddon101
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quick question as this is not about a fleet version, but only the anni ship.
that will get 10 consoles when upgraded, but no + hull/shields?
males no difference too me, more of a challenge in pve.
I luv the design over the ambassador..
bubble head... klingon battle crusier.
that will get 10 consoles when upgraded, but no + hull/shields?
males no difference too me, more of a challenge in pve.
I luv the design over the ambassador..
bubble head... klingon battle crusier.
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If you want a tier 5U Kamarag, then theres only the fleet version + upgrade.
"Let them eat static!"
If you only have 1 KDF toon then try to get the Fleet version and go for the upgrade of that you will be happier than being able to upgrade the standard one due to the extra "health".
Yeah its way too expensive for the KDF though think of how many fleet ships there are and how many of them have the ability of the discount.
B'rel, Kar'fi, and mogh unless I am missing something lol. Since there is no vor'cha, negh'var, vo'quv, kamarag, qin, somraw, plenty more but that proves the point lol. We the KDF already paid high targ slop prices for the fleet ships we do have if anything the upgrades on KDF ships should just be a click of the button for any we don't get a discount on FSM's for. Slapping the Star Trek label on their game has carried them but so far but this time a line has to be drawn so I am saying no to X2 lol.
You're forgetting! Purchase of the C-Store Guramba gets you a discount for the... Oh.. Wait a minute... nevermind.
So wouldn't the Anni ship be upgraded?
I think it only counts for fleet ships that have a c-store counter part.
Nice try though.:P
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
Would be nice but the ship has to have an upgradable Standard version in the first place. Since The Reward, Rank up Token/Dilithium , and 200k Fleet credit ships have no upgrade in the first place it is pretty much only Feds and Romulans that this will really apply to. Only KDF ships that benefit from this at the current time are B'rel, Kar'fi, Mogh, Peghqu and Varanus which are only ships that have an Upgradable T5 and Fleet version. Feds have what 13 (?) and Roms have 6 (Half their ship roster, counting the 3 packs as os single ships) that have the Upgradable T5 and Fleet T5 versions.
Upgradable ships with both T5 and T5 Fleet that can upgrade. (all 3 packs counting a 1 ship type even if they only upgrade on a per variant basis) 1 of each faction being the Vet ship.
Roms 6/13
Fed 13/33
KDF 4/28
KDF need more love to make the 1 upgrade does both variants viable for us. I guess they want us to be happy we even get the 4 ships while the Feds have 5 more upgradable ships with 9 more that have 2 variants that this applies to.
ROFL... That reminds me its been like over 2 years since I've even used any of my garumba's. I remember when it was like a preferred ship in pve but those days are long gone and not a big of development into bringing on the fleet version lol.
Reminds me of the situation that brought the power creep on to begin with is that right there you posted lol. Yet the devs do not seem to understand or do not want to even deal with it is the fact that in a lot of federation core builds that are roughly the cornerstone/cookie cutter are pieces that come from buying these c-store ships to then put on the fleet ships(or like some they can't be removed when you buy the c-store or fleet ship). Maybe someone can re-word this to Cryptic so they can understand it because I've tried for years. An example besides bops is the nausicaan destroyer and raptors they roughly have the same layouts as most escorts do with some minor stat changes. The key here though is that there is nothing unique to either of these kinds of ships. With birds of prey though it still has universals and battle cloak which was a satisfactory balance before changes were made to make lockbox ships sell better with tactical console diminishing returns removed. However they do need some loving because they can't compete with players who extend their battle cloak ambush duration and then on average have 2 additional tactical console slots.
I know this might seem rude and somewhat profane to all the ppl who have come to the KDF which is a lot compared to how it used to be but I just can't justify keeping on playing until this love for the KDF comes because I refuse to keep playing a small part of the player base that Cryptic views as its punching bag. If I try to do a vape in a bop the way it is now even if I put in the maximum stats allowable for one of these kinds of builds even npcs will laugh at me for attempting it even with flanking lol. They forgot to mention in the tribble notes audio is now working for when you try to ambush an npc or player with a bop a VO will trigger of a local clown who came in laughing as psychotically as possible because you are playing a broken STO faction.
If players have a ship, the Kamarang Battlecruiser Retrofit is a perfect example, maybe from an event or Store version of lesser leveled ships then allow it to become a fleet version for 1 FSM.
Add on another FSM to upgrade that fleet version to this soon to be T5u.
With the current status quo some really nice ship designs are wasted at end level & only practical at whatever 10 level spread they were originated for.
This type of mind set will make even less sense when the end level is increased & more ships are added. It will add to the disparity of value of all the lower ships.
With this expansion however adds the opportunity for them to add such options for most if not all ship designs.
An alternate method would be to possibly add the lower ships' skin options to the higher leveled ships of similar design.
1.) An event by Cryptic to pump up fleets to improves their shipyard tiers. Temporarily lower the price for upgrading shipyards.
2.) Then host a fleet ship sale.
I'm not saying "lower the price of the Fleet Ship Modules"
Instead, make ALL Fleet ships available for a flat 1 Module per Fleet ship.
That would solve the pain point for a number of Kamarang fans (and Ambassador fans, etc.)
With Tier 6 (and Tier 6-Fleet) coming with "Delta Rising", this would be appreciated within the next few months. Say, post-Q Winter Wonderland?
Yes, there's plenty to argue pro/con. But it's a discussion worth having for those wanting a better upgrade option for Kamarangs -- and other ships -- to fleet versions.
Once completed, Cryptic can aim for T5-U upgrade sales after that. :P
It was idiotic of Cryptic to NOT have made a Fleet Guramba when the Fleet Ship / Starbase system was made. Before that, in terms of Cmdr TAC ships for the KDF, the Guramba was wildly popular for both PVE and even PVP.
I mean, a playable Guramba was already in-game, they already had the endgame, 9 console C-Store version in-game. I remember the boards here begged for a Fleet Guramba years ago. Again, so many players in the KDF flew the ship and they refused to mine the gold mine. They could not do a cut & paste of the C-Store Guramba, tweak the stats to Fleet status, profit. They couldn't even be bothered to do that hackjob!
And here we are again, years later, being told that a Fleet Guramba is impending but, yet again, we have Jack & ****. And Jack just left town.
Just like that special Negh'Var from what? Over a year ago now? They talked about it and what did they release? The Avenger for the Feds.
They were going to 'revisit' the whole KDF fleet upgrade price structure well over a year ago but it never happened, and their unwillingness to offer this ship in the c-store as well as the upgrade price isn't enticing me to spend a dime on this game. It's really a shame since it's one of the best battlecruisers in the game, and unfortunately one of the most expensive to hold onto.
But we all know it was their plan all along to force people to grind forever or pay cash to keep this ship- thats why they made it so freekin good.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
i got the qib and the raptor and while both looked good on paper (well the screen) when it came to playing them they were death traps. so im back in my upgraded tork. and i upgraded the fleet kamarang so my sci toon still has a boat as well. the new ones are still just a bit to weak until fleet versions come out.
but these kdf fleet ships end up costing a fortune thankfully the upgrades are atleast account wide since i had 4 toons with a tor'kaht i was not forced to buy as many upgrade tokens.
So are you happy with the T-5u Kami ? I mean is it usable in the DR advanced and elite ques where DPS is king ? I want to upgrade but the cost is just out-freekin-rageous.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG