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thanatos9tthanatos9t Member Posts: 96 Arc User
How about making the various Galaxy variants available to the Nebula Class such as the Venture Class, I've mad a mock up of how the Nebula variant could look (please ignore my bad Photo-shopping skills):
Nebula_Variant_Venture.png

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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Agreed! Cryptic, MAKE IT SO!!!
  • thanatos9tthanatos9t Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I've mocked up another Nebula variant based on the tier 3 Celestial class:
    Nebula_Variant_Celestial.png

    "I walked away from the last great Time War. I marked the passing of the Time Lords. I saw the birth of the universe and watched as time ran out, moment by moment, until nothing remained. No time, no space. Just me!"
  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Not keen on the celestial version, but I hate that on the galaxy too. Ugly, ugly nacelles.

    Yes please to the venture though.
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  • novapolaris#2925 novapolaris Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    That Venture-type Nebula. Do want!

    I've been wanting a Venture variant of the Nebula since they added the Venture. I really want them to fit making that variant onto the schedule soon. Or at least, someone on the ship team doing it on their spare time. Hopefully one of them can manage that sometime soon, after the DR ships are done.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I still want the variants from the TV show. The first appearance had tiny nacelles instead of the mission module, and the other had a disk-shaped auxiliary sensor array.
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  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I still want the variants from the TV show. The first appearance had tiny nacelles instead of the mission module, and the other had a disk-shaped auxiliary sensor array.

    The original model(s) also had a different shaped secondary hull and thicker saucer rim compared to the CGI version too:

    Nebula Shooting Model

    Nebula CGI
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    thanatos9t wrote: »
    I've mocked up another Nebula variant based on the tier 3 Celestial class:
    Nebula_Variant_Celestial.png

    I assume that pod is suppose to be the AWACS pod seen on the Phoneix in "The Wounded" (TNG)? If so, I like that you added that. As the Magellan is the Monarch parts, are you planning to photoshop create an Envoy variant? If so, I would like to see that one have a third nacelle on top in place of the typical pod.
  • thanatos9tthanatos9t Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    davidwford wrote: »
    I assume that pod is suppose to be the AWACS pod seen on the Phoneix in "The Wounded" (TNG)? If so, I like that you added that. As the Magellan is the Monarch parts, are you planning to photoshop create an Envoy variant? If so, I would like to see that one have a third nacelle on top in place of the typical pod.

    Yeah I was going for the AWACS style pod on the Phoenix when I designed the Celestial variant.

    I've just mocked up an Envoy style variant with a center nacelle:
    Nebula_Variant_Envoy.png

    "I walked away from the last great Time War. I marked the passing of the Time Lords. I saw the birth of the universe and watched as time ran out, moment by moment, until nothing remained. No time, no space. Just me!"
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    thanatos9t wrote: »
    Yeah I was going for the AWACS style pod on the Phoenix when I designed the Celestial variant.

    I've just mocked up an Envoy style variant with a center nacelle:
    Nebula_Variant_Envoy.png

    I think I like that better than the sensor pod! Thanks!
  • kimonykimony Member Posts: 571 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Those look great. I'd also love to see saucer separation added. Nebula looks awesome seperated:

    http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/220/c/3/attack_pattern_gamma_four_by_overseer-d5a0wpq.jpg

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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yeah, no. But more skins for this ship makes sense.
  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I support this, but it wont happend.. it seems that cryptic is not really a fan of canon ships.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,010 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I support this, but it wont happend.. it seems that cryptic is not really a fan of canon ships.

    I don't know if it has something to do with them being fans or not, but they definitely want to put their own designs out there. In another topic on this forum someone posted a very good observation along the lines of Cryptic wants and arguably needs to expand the playerbase. Today's potential playerbase was not raised on Star Trek, a large potion probably doesn't even know TOS and TNG which is why they need new designs that don't resemble the classic Star Trek aesthetics but are better to relate to by jetfighter/military aficionados (intelligence ships and basically every single ground item) or ships that resemble designs that are known from more popular sci-fi franchises (Tron, Mass Effect, Dead Space, New-Star Wars - whatever is "hip" atm). This sentiment has also been confirmed by a ship designer's twitter post in which he stated that kids these days can't relate to the Star Trek aesthetics and think of them as not cool enough, they want stealth jetfighters and machineguns (you need to look a bit for it, start with the designers note on intelligence ships in the GNN, from there you can find the whole twitter post somewhere).

    The target audience for classic Star Trek designs is pretty much saturated at this point.
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  • captz1ppcaptz1pp Member Posts: 931 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Sci-ships in all 3 factions should have tailor variations, like a medical pod, subspace arrays, or comm jammers.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The Venture Style Nebula looks kinda sweet. The Venture skin should so be added to the ship tailor (as the Monarch should be added for the Galaxy Dreadnought); neither of these are old requests, but it seems that the Dev/Art team doesn't care enough about these ships to grant them further tailor options.

    My remaining hope is that the ships will be re-released as T6, and they'll crack on with these requests if/when that happens, though I am far from optimistic.

    ...and people wonder why I refuse to put money in to DR. :rolleyes:

    kimony wrote: »
    Those look great. I'd also love to see saucer separation added. Nebula looks awesome seperated:

    http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/220/c/3/attack_pattern_gamma_four_by_overseer-d5a0wpq.jpg
    For the love of God, NO! The Nebula doesn't need saucer separation. The Galaxy was seen to have it, and has it, great. The Galaxy Dreadnought has it (makes sense, she's an upgrade of the Galaxy). The Prometheus has something similar. We don't need every saucer-wielding ship to be able to separate.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,010 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    (...)

    For the love of God, NO! The Nebula doesn't need saucer separation. The Galaxy was seen to have it, and has it, great. The Galaxy Dreadnought has it (makes sense, she's an upgrade of the Galaxy). The Prometheus has something similar. We don't need every saucer-wielding ship to be able to separate.

    I like to disagree on this part. The Galaxy "Dreadnaught" should have never been able to separate, as the large phaser emitter fuses the two hulls together (it does directly into the engineering hull). It makes no sense to have this part separatable, let alone why this should mean the separated saucer can still fire it is beyond me.

    Saucer separation was never meant to be a combat feature, though, so I agree with you here. The separated saucers should only provide mild fire support and instead have some useful gimmicks for use in STO (tractor beams, so you could send them off catch a rogue probe or something, though this would also need a saucer-pet UI like carrier pets have).
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Agreed - until STO and being able to put the Saucer Seperation console on the Gal-X, I had always thought that the equipment for the seperation had been removed from the Enterprise-D in "AGT" as part of the refit so that there was room to add the phaser lance.

    What needs to be remembered about the Gal-X, something I think even Cryptic has forgotten, was that in the Anti-Time Future where the design originated, Admiral Riker pulled strings to get a fifty-year old Enterprise-D kept in service as his flagship, despite its age and outdated systems - the third nacelle, the phaser lance, the cannons or whatever they are on top of the saucer, those were all part of the refit intended just to keep it able to operate on the same level as 'modern' ships, it wasn't meant to be some - pardon the term - next generation supership like it seems to be considered by some.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I like to disagree on this part.

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    I never said I agreed with the decision, I just said I understood it (as it is a Galaxy Class, thus has the functionality). If it was down to me, and apparently you also, said feature wouldn't have come with the Dreadnought. I own the ship, and hardly ever use the operation, so we actually are in agreement. :)
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  • giannicampanellagiannicampanella Member Posts: 424 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Saucer separation was never meant to be a combat feature

    Season 1 TNG disagrees with you.

    Worf (Heart of Glory): "When shed of its bulk, the Enterprise stardrive becomes a formidable weapon."
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Today's potential playerbase was not raised on Star Trek, a large potion probably doesn't even know TOS and TNG which is why they need new designs that don't resemble the classic Star Trek aesthetics but are better to relate to by jetfighter/military aficionados (intelligence ships and basically every single ground item) or ships that resemble designs that are known from more popular sci-fi franchises (Tron, Mass Effect, Dead Space, New-Star Wars - whatever is "hip" atm). This sentiment has also been confirmed by a ship designer's twitter post in which he stated that kids these days can't relate to the Star Trek aesthetics and think of them as not cool enough, they want stealth jetfighters and machineguns (you need to look a bit for it, start with the designers note on intelligence ships in the GNN, from there you can find the whole twitter post somewhere).

    If this is true, the devs and their bosses are absolutely clueless egos in the void, as the JJ franchise is ALL any young person today thinks about when they hear "Star Trek". So then they decide to play STO, and discover something completely different? lol This is the business reasoning of a gorilla.
    flash525 wrote: »
    For the love of God, NO! The Nebula doesn't need saucer separation. The Galaxy was seen to have it, and has it, great. The Galaxy Dreadnought has it (makes sense, she's an upgrade of the Galaxy). The Prometheus has something similar. We don't need every saucer-wielding ship to be able to separate.

    Why not? Because you think getting angry about nothing makes you seem knowledgeable or in charge?

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