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stolts
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1. Do the duplicates created use the same weapon equipped on your ship?
2. Is it specific about visual details? For example, if you equipped andorian phasers will it also shoot blue beams or just orange color as regular phasers?
3. Is it specific about stat details? For example, if you equipped plasma-disruptors will it deal damage like plasma-disruptors or just regular disruptors?
3a. Does the damage scale with your weapons or is it static? For example, if you equipped Very Rare Mk XII weapons will it also deal damage as that or just Common Mk XII version of it.
2. Is it specific about visual details? For example, if you equipped andorian phasers will it also shoot blue beams or just orange color as regular phasers?
3. Is it specific about stat details? For example, if you equipped plasma-disruptors will it deal damage like plasma-disruptors or just regular disruptors?
3a. Does the damage scale with your weapons or is it static? For example, if you equipped Very Rare Mk XII weapons will it also deal damage as that or just Common Mk XII version of it.
The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
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1. No. They use a default set of antiproton (IIRC) and chronitons.
2. Nope, non-specific.
3. No. It uses default weaponry.
4. Static damage.
None of the stuff you use on your ship applies to it. What it does is effectively spawn two NPCs, one of which deals damage to you if damaged itself. There's a reason why it's considered a useless suicide console.
The first Belfast was commanded by Captain Ve'Kal Shon until its destruction in 2409. A new ship was commissioned bearing the same name and registry as special dispensation to then newly promoted Captain Edward XIII for his pivotal role during the renewed Dominion War.
I bought the Krenn in the sale in part because I liked the idea of summoning duplicates (and expected it to work the same way as the Orb of Possibilities) but in the end I ditched the console for one that wouldn't end up killing myself every time I used it. I still really like the ship (esp. the sideburns) but I'd much, much rather have Tipler Cylinder.
I'd really like to see the whole 'past affects present affects future' mechanic scrapped but I'm not holding my breath. Don't get me wrong, it's a very interesting concept and I don't mind the duplicates using standard weapons, but it just doesn't seem to work at all in practice.
When would you recommend?
--Red Annorax
Utterly worthless outside of being part of a set with the vastly more useful tipler console.
My personal recommendation would be never.
If you're going to use it against a strong NPC, that NPC could probably wipe out the clone in a second (note a lot of strong NPCs have AOE attacks). If you use it against a weak NPC... Well that's just a waste of a console slot.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
So I finally got (for trial purposes) a temporal destroyer...I cracked the box in great excitement, thinking, yay for time, err, stuff! I was chagrined to realize, the ship only comes with ONE of the two consoles I need for the specialized time, effect. Where does the other universal console come from? I'm asking of course about the Tipler Cylinder. If anyone can tell me, I'll be grateful.
@carterjohns1209, various Fed and KDF officers
It comes with the Temporal Science Vessel. You'll have to buy it as well.
It is garbage. The admission that you have to "use it right" tells me that even you know that it's garbage. I mean even a sphere has killed my past ship. Try popping it against the Undine or Voth with all their spam. Photonic fleet is what the Mannheim Device wishes it was. It's just a terribly thought out console taking up space in my bank that I could delete without any problem. It is the single worst piece of equipment I own across seven toons. It is perfectly described as a monumental failure of both execution and imagination. I'd rather slot a mark 1 common biofunction monitor; that's how much of a piece of garbage the Mannheim console is.
End rant.
Personally -- and I've suggested this -- I think it would make sense to have a temporal engines/shields/deflector combo set since there is a canon example of each, along with T-core in place of warp core. Both the Krenim and the Relativity used T-cores in place of warp cores, if memory serves.
And I think T-shields should have a "free" bonus that prevents you from receiving incoming damage from the Manheim console, since it seems a big component of temporal shielding would be resistance or immunity from timeline alteration.