My conclusion... This is a very long hall run. If you don't have stuff saved then you are really on a long hall unless you cstore. A 1 hour a day player that don't want to spend real money will never get this done to max.
and it's even longer for people who already did spend a lot on the game and are not hot for cumulating the costs for all the stuff they already spent on .
While true, I don't see this as a good reason to build systems that allow people to spend hundreds of dollars, if not more, on a single item. To me, it shows they just don't give a TRIBBLE about their customers and think of them as nothing more than a wallet to drain. Think about it for a minute. Were you the developer, would you want to make this kind of thing possible? Or would you rather develop something more moderate?
^^ This.
Apparently pure greed has overtaken the devs. I did not mind spending a couple of hundred bucks, ever so often, on a few lockbox ships, a new set of Vulnerability Locators, or whatever. But hundreds of dollars for bringing a single wep to Mk. XIII?! I don't think so.
While true, I don't see this as a good reason to build systems that allow people to spend hundreds of dollars, if not more, on a single item.
What people want to spend their money on is their own business. Two weeks ago my wife spent $1,200.00 on a pair of shoes. Is that asinine to me? Yes. Was it asinine to her? No.
It is not my business if people want to spend $100.00 a month on Keys or whatever. That is their business. The important thing is whether or not you were forced to do it. No one is forced to power Upgrade in a day. It is their choice: they would rather pay to do it quickly then not pay and take more time.
To those people I say: "thanks for paying and keeping the game running for me."
I'm not able to find it right this second, but I can recall a very prophetic post that was made back when timegated content was first added to STO. The poster had said that adding timegates would inevitably lead to paying real money to circumvent the timegates. Most all respondents had said he was nuts. Well, here we are with some folks really getting fleeced. Yes, it is a cost of their impatience to a degree, but it is also what I see as a broken system.
This basically addresses the first part of my post which you did not quote:
Well, duh! Cryptic does not want you to get it quickly and cheaply for free. They want you to spend some money each month to get things quickly and easily. That is how they make income.
Either way paying to avoid the time-gate is each person's individual choice. You are not forced to do it. If people want to pay because they are impatient, more power to them.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Apparently pure greed has overtaken the devs. I did not mind spending a couple of hundred bucks, ever so often, on a few lockbox ships, a new set of Vulnerability Locators, or whatever. But hundreds of dollars for bringing a single wep to Mk. XIII?! I don't think so.
What hundreds of dollars? The OP paid 400,000 Dilithium to instantly bring 22 items up to Mk XIII. 400,000 Dilithium is what? Around $25.00: 400,000 / 175 Exchange rate is 2,285 Zen. Even if you thrown in a couple of Keys to get the EC it is still not "hundreds of dollars," let alone hundreds for a single item.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
After what I did last night I am just going to take it slow. Do what I can when I can. I think this is insane on amount of time this is going to take. Im not going to pay hundreds of dollars on this. IM going to enjoy this game! But if I become the weak link over the minority of rich cash players that spent over a hundred dollars to GEt there gear up then I will bail from the game. Until that time I am going to enjoy the game:)
I do think some non level 15 crafters are spending too much on the exchange getting blue kits to upgrade. If I'm not mistaken most weapons require around 25,000 Tech XP and the green kits from the vendor give I think 2,000 XP and cost 10,000 each.
That's around 125,000 per weapon to upgrade. Careful spending 300,000 EC buying blue kits...yes it will cost you less Dilithium so I guess you have to way what is more important to the individual.
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What hundreds of dollars? The OP paid 400,000 Dilithium to instantly bring 22 items up to Mk XIII. 400,000 Dilithium is what? Around $25.00: 400,000 / 175 Exchange rate is 2,285 Zen. Even if you thrown in a couple of Keys to get the EC it is still not "hundreds of dollars."
so it's like 1+ dollar to get one item up, right? sorry, but in the world i come from like a tenth of that costs would be appropiate for an onlinegame item u already own and just want to improve. or no costs at all, just ingame effort.
it's gettin hundreds of dollars or years of waiting really quick if u look at toons with all lockbox ships, all weapon sets in dhc and beam variants, etc.........
lol you people don't get it, or? this is all a live test. they just want to see your reactions about the insane costs of dilithium and ec for the upgrades and how many will leave the game. if nobody complains and everyone uses the upgrading system, they will not change anything, haha. free will people, you all have the choice, close your wallets and don't use the crafting and upgrading system and they will change their mind and maybe lower the costs.
so it's like 1+ dollar to get one item up, right? sorry, but in the world i come from like a tenth of that costs would be appropiate for an onlinegame item u already own and just want to improve. or no costs at all, just ingame effort.
A dollar you do not have to pay. The OP could have simply took his time getting the items and then started the Upgrade process and went to bed. It is your choice if you want it NOW.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
What hundreds of dollars? The OP paid 400,000 Dilithium to instantly bring 22 items up to Mk XIII. 400,000 Dilithium is what? Around $25.00: 400,000 / 175 Exchange rate is 2,285 Zen. Even if you thrown in a couple of Keys to get the EC it is still not "hundreds of dollars," let alone hundreds for a single item.
A single wep will cost me around 150mil EC alone for a full upgrade to Gold Mk XIV. That is about 90 dollars here, not counting the price for the Dilithium. So yeah, 'hundreds of dollars' per item is certainly the order of magnitude we're looking at (without any crafting skills).
After what I did last night I am just going to take it slow. Do what I can when I can. I think this is insane on amount of time this is going to take. Im not going to pay hundreds of dollars on this. IM going to enjoy this game! But if I become the weak link over the minority of rich cash players that spent over a hundred dollars to GEt there gear up then I will bail from the game. Until that time I am going to enjoy the game:)
well its about that time if you have not upgraded. this morning before server went down is the 1st time in a very long time that i did not get 1st in crystal entity. came in 3rd. i was surprised. so i waited for cool down and did it again same result. now only thing that changed between this morning and yesterday before server down was the upgrades. they make a difference. and when they can junp to mk14 the ones with the money for the upgrades will so outclass the others it will not be funny .the Purple mk12 will be like green mk14 and without the extra mods that some will end up with due to upgrades.
Trophies for killing FEDS ahh those were the days.
A single wep will cost me around 150mil EC alone for a full upgrade to Gold Mk XIV. That is about 90 dollars here, not counting the price for the Dilithium. So yeah, 'hundreds of dollars' per item is certainly the order of magnitude we're looking at (without any crafting skills).
What it costs to go Gold is your choice. I was simply addressing your BS remark that it costs "hundreds of dollars" to take a single item to Mk XIII. It costs roughly $1.00 to bring an item to Mk XIII - and that is assuming you want to pay for all of it rather then grind for it; in which case it costs you nothing at all.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I use to have 5 to a dozen ships on each of my 4 characters. not now. at most each toon will have 2 ships to reduce my grind time and funds needed to upgrade.
thinking of just getting the DR pack and going all T6 and to hell with the old ships.
Also, the whole "no one forced you to do it" reasoning is starting to wear a bit thin to me as well. Sure, Cryptic isn't holding a gun to anyone's head. They are adding artificial time gates to heavily encourage you to spend money. They are absolutely banking on people being impatient and forking over the cash. We can agree to disagree here, I just think it's skirting a fine line.
It's all about being reasonable or not. All upgrade/grind systems so far allowed you to pay a reasonable amount of Dilithium and/or time, in order for you to get your item. The cost has suddenly gone up 10x up and higher. I no longer call that reasonable.
I also think Cryptic lost reason where it pertains to de facto forcing us to play a mini-game (or pay even more absurd prices if you don't).
I use to have 5 to a dozen ships on each of my 4 characters. not now. at most each toon will have 2 ships to reduce my grind time and funds needed to upgrade.
thinking of just getting the DR pack and going all T6 and to hell with the old ships.
The T6 ships do not come with Mk XIV Gear. If you want the Gear you will need to Craft for it no matter what ship you own.
Personally, having played various ships and Gear on Tribble, I have no plans on Upgrading my Gear past Mk XII. If I get some Mk XII drops or missing rewards, great. But I found no need for better gear while playing the new Content on Tribble, even on higher difficulties.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I dont think I gonna upgrade my weapons and ships..I will fly mk12 and to hell with it.
This prices are insane.
What will Delta Rising bring to us?
First day lots of lags,
first week when ppl realize cost of upgrading they will rage
second week - normal today's population is 20% smaller
third week - population decreases by 1% every week
They should learn from other games that flopped recently (ESO, WIldstar, Archeage...), gaming community is money, if you dont have a satisfied community you lose.
A dollar you do not have to pay. The OP could have simply took his time getting the items and then started the Upgrade process and went to bed. It is your choice if you want it NOW.
yeah... and that's why u left out the 2nd part of my comment, aye? :rolleyes:
What it costs to go Gold is your choice. I was simply addressing your BS remark that it costs "hundreds of dollars" to take a single item to Mk XIII. It costs roughly $1.00 to bring an item to Mk XIII - and that is assuming you want to pay for all of it rather then grind for it; in which case it costs you nothing at all.
Yeah, you caught me in the typo of Mk XIII. Meant Mk XIV, of course. Still, the Mk XIII upgrade alone cost me 9mil EC. for a single wep, So, I'm curious to learn how that equates to ca. $1.00 in your book.
The T6 ships do not come with Mk XIV Gear. If you want the Gear you will need to Craft for it no matter what ship you own.
Personally, having played various ships and Gear on Tribble, I have no plans on Upgrading my Gear past Mk XII. If I get some Mk XII drops or missing rewards, great. But I found no need for better gear while playing the new Content on Tribble, even on higher difficulties.
fewer ships less gear needed. I REFUSE to pay for upgrades. Cryptic wins.
Yeah, you caught me in the typo of Mk XIII. Meant Mk XIV, of course. Still, the Mk XIII upgrade alone cost me 9mil EC. for a single wep, So, I'm curious to learn how that equates to ca. $1.00 in your book.
Well, first, I was using the OP's stated numbers for what he spent to instantly Upgrade 22 items to Mk XIII: 5 million EC and 400,000 Dilithium. That equates to roughly 227k EC and 18k Dilithium per item. I am not certain why you ended up paying 40 times more EC then the OP for a single item. Perhaps you should ask him for advice on that?
As far as what 9 million EC equates out to in dollar amounts, roughly the same as selling 4 Keys on the Exchange. So about $4.00-$5.00 depending on how you buy your Keys. Of course why you paid 5 times more then the OP for the same thing is something you should really work to resolve.
Finally I should point out that upgrading to Gold gear can happen at any level. You could be Upgrading a Mk V weapon and have it randomly turn UV or Gold. So the cost of getting to Mk XIV and the cost of getting to UV or Gold are two entirely different things. Either way you never decrease in rarity. If you start out as Purple you are never getting less then Purple; same with UV or Gold.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Yeah, you caught me in the typo of Mk XIII. Meant Mk XIV, of course. Still, the Mk XIII upgrade alone cost me 9mil EC. for a single wep, So, I'm curious to learn how that equates to ca. $1.00 in your book.
But how did it cost that much?
It's what, 64k TP to take a VR Mk XII weapon to Mk XIII.
That's 5x Superior Tech Upgrades and 5375 Dil.
If you bought the STUs when they were 1.4m, that's still only 7m. With them down under 700k, that's 3.5m.
The Improved Tech Upgrades provide 5k TP, so that would be 13 of them. That would have cost less than 2m and 12350 Dil...down to 1.3m as the prices dropped.
If one went the Basic Tech Upgrade path, 2k TP, that would be 32 of them...320k EC and 22400 Dil.
That's without any crits.
3x STUs would be 2.1m EC/3225 Dil and provide 38.4k of the 64k TP. Adding in 5x ITUs would be another 500k EC/4750 Dil and you'd be looking at 63.4k of the 64k TP where you might see a crit taking care of the remainder. 2.6m EC/7975 Dil for the one weapon.
There's all sorts of ways one can look at getting to where they want to get, based on whether they've got more Dil than EC or more EC than Dil or whatever their particular situation is.
Folks can take a look at everything on their ship...look at the TP requirement, make note of it all, and figure out based on what they've got or what they can do - what they will do based on how soon they feel they need it done.
I use to have 5 to a dozen ships on each of my 4 characters. not now. at most each toon will have 2 ships to reduce my grind time and funds needed to upgrade.
thinking of just getting the DR pack and going all T6 and to hell with the old ships.
This is what I've foretold: that the cost of DR is so high, that ppl will simply no longer fully commit. That may seem like a good thing to you, but it really isn't -- for the game as whole, that is. Cuz it usually means ppl will soon thereafter just stop playing altogether (there's simply no fun in having to write off 9/10th of your gear/ships as 'no longer viable to upgrade, like ever').
Well, first, I was using the OP's stated numbers for what he spent to instantly Upgrade 22 items to Mk XIII: 5 million EC and 400,000 Dilithium. That equates to roughly 227k EC and 18k Dilithium per item. I am not certain why you ended up paying 40 times more EC then the OP for a single item. Perhaps you should ask him for advice on that?
As far as what 9 million EC equates out to in dollar amounts, roughly the same as selling 4 Keys on the Exchange. So about $5.00. Of course why you paid 5 times more then the OP for the same thing is something you should really work to resolve.
Finally I should point out that upgrading to Gold gear can happen at any level. You could be Upgrading a Mk V weapon and have it randomly turn UV or Gold. So the cost of getting to Mk XIV and the cost of getting to UV or Gold are two entirely different things. Either way you never decrease in rarity. If you start out as Purple you are never getting less then Purple; same with UV or Gold.
Different items have different TP requirements. The TP cost for a weapon is higher than it is for a console. Can't remember the others off hand - can't get into the game to look. Can do so when the game comes back up.
It's what, 64k TP to take a VR Mk XII weapon to Mk XIII.
That's 5x Superior Tech Upgrades and 5375 Dil.
If you bought the STUs when they were 1.4m, that's still only 7m. With them down under 700k, that's 3.5m.
The Improved Tech Upgrades provide 5k TP, so that would be 13 of them. That would have cost less than 2m and 12350 Dil...down to 1.3m as the prices dropped.
If one went the Basic Tech Upgrade path, 2k TP, that would be 32 of them...320k EC and 22400 Dil.
That's without any crits.
3x STUs would be 2.1m EC/3225 Dil and provide 38.4k of the 64k TP. Adding in 5x ITUs would be another 500k EC/4750 Dil and you'd be looking at 63.4k of the 64k TP where you might see a crit taking care of the remainder. 2.6m EC/7975 Dil for the one weapon.
There's all sorts of ways one can look at getting to where they want to get, based on whether they've got more Dil than EC or more EC than Dil or whatever their particular situation is.
Folks can take a look at everything on their ship...look at the TP requirement, make note of it all, and figure out based on what they've got or what they can do - what they will do based on how soon they feel they need it done.
I think I was using several 2.8+ mil Catalysts too (soon was cured of that idea, LOL). So, all-in-all, it was closer to ca. 11mil in total. Granted, no need for the Catalysts, but certainly 10+ 700K a piece ST
fewer ships less gear needed. I REFUSE to pay for upgrades. Cryptic wins.
Again, you do not get Mk XIV gear for buying a T6 ship. Whether you use your existing T5, Upgrade to a T5U, or buy a T6 you still have the same number of Gear requirements: 7-8 Weapons, Shields, Engines, etc.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
So Geko was saying that PvP players are hardcore players while pve players (majority ) are the casual players.What I see is that PvE players are hardcore grinders which play and grind more than PvP players ....there goes the theory that STO is played by casual players....the only casual players are PvP players.
If Pve is too expensive this is what Pve players deserve.
So Geko was saying that PvP players are hardcore players while pve players (majority ) are the casual players.What I see is that PvE players are hardcore grinders which play and grind more than PvP players ....there goes the theory that STO is played by casual players....the only casual players are PvP players.
If Pve is too expensive this is what Pve players deserve.
With that kind of logic you must work for a Government somewhere.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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and it's even longer for people who already did spend a lot on the game and are not hot for cumulating the costs for all the stuff they already spent on
^^ This.
Apparently pure greed has overtaken the devs. I did not mind spending a couple of hundred bucks, ever so often, on a few lockbox ships, a new set of Vulnerability Locators, or whatever. But hundreds of dollars for bringing a single wep to Mk. XIII?! I don't think so.
It is not my business if people want to spend $100.00 a month on Keys or whatever. That is their business. The important thing is whether or not you were forced to do it. No one is forced to power Upgrade in a day. It is their choice: they would rather pay to do it quickly then not pay and take more time.
To those people I say: "thanks for paying and keeping the game running for me."
This basically addresses the first part of my post which you did not quote:
Either way paying to avoid the time-gate is each person's individual choice. You are not forced to do it. If people want to pay because they are impatient, more power to them.
That's around 125,000 per weapon to upgrade. Careful spending 300,000 EC buying blue kits...yes it will cost you less Dilithium so I guess you have to way what is more important to the individual.
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so it's like 1+ dollar to get one item up, right? sorry, but in the world i come from like a tenth of that costs would be appropiate for an onlinegame item u already own and just want to improve. or no costs at all, just ingame effort.
it's gettin hundreds of dollars or years of waiting really quick if u look at toons with all lockbox ships, all weapon sets in dhc and beam variants, etc.........
A single wep will cost me around 150mil EC alone for a full upgrade to Gold Mk XIV. That is about 90 dollars here, not counting the price for the Dilithium. So yeah, 'hundreds of dollars' per item is certainly the order of magnitude we're looking at (without any crafting skills).
<<checks exchange>>
Grind, grind, grind - sell...<<switch characters>> grind, grind, grind...sell <<switch characters>>
<<At end of grinding, check zen balance>>
I believe I will be having a productive month.
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well its about that time if you have not upgraded. this morning before server went down is the 1st time in a very long time that i did not get 1st in crystal entity. came in 3rd. i was surprised. so i waited for cool down and did it again same result. now only thing that changed between this morning and yesterday before server down was the upgrades. they make a difference. and when they can junp to mk14 the ones with the money for the upgrades will so outclass the others it will not be funny .the Purple mk12 will be like green mk14 and without the extra mods that some will end up with due to upgrades.
thinking of just getting the DR pack and going all T6 and to hell with the old ships.
It's all about being reasonable or not. All upgrade/grind systems so far allowed you to pay a reasonable amount of Dilithium and/or time, in order for you to get your item. The cost has suddenly gone up 10x up and higher. I no longer call that reasonable.
I also think Cryptic lost reason where it pertains to de facto forcing us to play a mini-game (or pay even more absurd prices if you don't).
Personally, having played various ships and Gear on Tribble, I have no plans on Upgrading my Gear past Mk XII. If I get some Mk XII drops or missing rewards, great. But I found no need for better gear while playing the new Content on Tribble, even on higher difficulties.
This prices are insane.
What will Delta Rising bring to us?
First day lots of lags,
first week when ppl realize cost of upgrading they will rage
second week - normal today's population is 20% smaller
third week - population decreases by 1% every week
They should learn from other games that flopped recently (ESO, WIldstar, Archeage...), gaming community is money, if you dont have a satisfied community you lose.
yeah... and that's why u left out the 2nd part of my comment, aye? :rolleyes:
Yeah, you caught me in the typo of Mk XIII. Meant Mk XIV, of course. Still, the Mk XIII upgrade alone cost me 9mil EC. for a single wep, So, I'm curious to learn how that equates to ca. $1.00 in your book.
Oh, oh...I want to buy some!!!! ( cheaper than what Cryptic sells, lol )
fewer ships less gear needed. I REFUSE to pay for upgrades. Cryptic wins.
As far as what 9 million EC equates out to in dollar amounts, roughly the same as selling 4 Keys on the Exchange. So about $4.00-$5.00 depending on how you buy your Keys. Of course why you paid 5 times more then the OP for the same thing is something you should really work to resolve.
Finally I should point out that upgrading to Gold gear can happen at any level. You could be Upgrading a Mk V weapon and have it randomly turn UV or Gold. So the cost of getting to Mk XIV and the cost of getting to UV or Gold are two entirely different things. Either way you never decrease in rarity. If you start out as Purple you are never getting less then Purple; same with UV or Gold.
But how did it cost that much?
It's what, 64k TP to take a VR Mk XII weapon to Mk XIII.
That's 5x Superior Tech Upgrades and 5375 Dil.
If you bought the STUs when they were 1.4m, that's still only 7m. With them down under 700k, that's 3.5m.
The Improved Tech Upgrades provide 5k TP, so that would be 13 of them. That would have cost less than 2m and 12350 Dil...down to 1.3m as the prices dropped.
If one went the Basic Tech Upgrade path, 2k TP, that would be 32 of them...320k EC and 22400 Dil.
That's without any crits.
3x STUs would be 2.1m EC/3225 Dil and provide 38.4k of the 64k TP. Adding in 5x ITUs would be another 500k EC/4750 Dil and you'd be looking at 63.4k of the 64k TP where you might see a crit taking care of the remainder. 2.6m EC/7975 Dil for the one weapon.
There's all sorts of ways one can look at getting to where they want to get, based on whether they've got more Dil than EC or more EC than Dil or whatever their particular situation is.
Folks can take a look at everything on their ship...look at the TP requirement, make note of it all, and figure out based on what they've got or what they can do - what they will do based on how soon they feel they need it done.
This is what I've foretold: that the cost of DR is so high, that ppl will simply no longer fully commit. That may seem like a good thing to you, but it really isn't -- for the game as whole, that is. Cuz it usually means ppl will soon thereafter just stop playing altogether (there's simply no fun in having to write off 9/10th of your gear/ships as 'no longer viable to upgrade, like ever').
Different items have different TP requirements. The TP cost for a weapon is higher than it is for a console. Can't remember the others off hand - can't get into the game to look. Can do so when the game comes back up.
I think I was using several 2.8+ mil Catalysts too (soon was cured of that idea, LOL). So, all-in-all, it was closer to ca. 11mil in total. Granted, no need for the Catalysts, but certainly 10+ 700K a piece ST
If Pve is too expensive this is what Pve players deserve.