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The Second Most Advanced Species in the Delta Quadrant
leviathan99
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I was thinking about this and it hit me that it might well be the species from the episode Blink of an Eye.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blink_of_an_Eye_(episode)
They experienced one day every 1.03 seconds due to its Tachyon core and Voyager ended up interacting with them at several points in their history, including a three year layover for the Doctor who wound up fathering a child by a native in the interim. (In one of several stories where we saw the idea of holograms and organic life having offspring which were mentioned but never explained.)
Because of the odd relative time scale, the inhabitants would be roughly 3 MILLION YEARS advanced from the industrial state we last saw them entering on Voyager.
For reference's sake, this makes their civilization three times the age of the Guardian of Forever. As much time would have passed on their planet as has passed since the estimated emergence of Homo Sapiens as a distinct species on our world.
The Voth might theoretically have them beat (although the Voth's adherence to dogma might have held them back).
But the inhabitants of this planet might well be one of the most advanced races in Star Trek if they still exist in STO's timeframe.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Blink_of_an_Eye_(episode)
They experienced one day every 1.03 seconds due to its Tachyon core and Voyager ended up interacting with them at several points in their history, including a three year layover for the Doctor who wound up fathering a child by a native in the interim. (In one of several stories where we saw the idea of holograms and organic life having offspring which were mentioned but never explained.)
Because of the odd relative time scale, the inhabitants would be roughly 3 MILLION YEARS advanced from the industrial state we last saw them entering on Voyager.
For reference's sake, this makes their civilization three times the age of the Guardian of Forever. As much time would have passed on their planet as has passed since the estimated emergence of Homo Sapiens as a distinct species on our world.
The Voth might theoretically have them beat (although the Voth's adherence to dogma might have held them back).
But the inhabitants of this planet might well be one of the most advanced races in Star Trek if they still exist in STO's timeframe.
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However, they have got both the tkon and the organians beat, and that is something to ponder.
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"Since before your sun burned hot in space, and before your race was born, I have awaited... a question."
If the Voth are descended from Earth dinosaurs, then their ancestors left Earth at least 65 million years ago.
Spock described the Guardian as being ten thousand centuries old based on scans. That's where I got that number.
The Voth meanwhile only appear to have become intelligent 20 million years ago.
Not necessarily... It was suggested in the episode 'Distant Origin' the Voth may have developed from a colony of Hadrosaurs which survived the extinction on a secluded land-mass, which has since sunk into the ocean - Atlantis anyone?
And it took them 20 million years to get to the Delta Quadrant carrying with them an entire ecosystem.
the chances are that this race who live on that strange planet have likely advanced well beyond the energy and corporeal state by now. quickly doing math off the top of my head they should of advanced 21 million years over 35 of our years.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
indeed i have seen in my own lifetime how one invention can cause a quantum leap in technology.
having been born in 1958 i see the introduction of the microchip, this small invention has radically altered our way of life and our level of technology, just think of all the stuff you use every day that we would not have if it was not for this one invention.
now just think if this was not invented for another 100 years or 1000 or never at all.
now how long will it be before we invent or dicover something that will push us further, even to get us to travel within our own solar system, this may never happen ever yet there could be for all we know species out there that are zipping arround the universe even now and they could be not that much older then us.
the point im trying to make is the age of a species does not nessasarily dictate their level of advancement.
there is nothing to say that they have progressed very much more further from when we last see them.
even if they have progressed technologically they may not have progressed physically or mentally and that you would need to get anywhere near the level of Q or iconians.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
STO should retcon that, because it was a terrible episode. Since they claimed that Transwarp was the cause of the rapid "evolution" and the Voth don't appear to experience this problem with their Transwarp, maybe the rapid "evolution" was caused by something else? Maybe they were secretly captured by the Solanae or Elachi and tampered with that way? That would make a lot more sense to me. They did prevent the Federation from getting Transwarp at the time anyway, since they thought it was a failure.
Who got that reference?
Not really; Trans-warp (exceeding warp 10, i.e. infinite speed) is different to Transwarp (a type of propulsion system that is PDFQ, rather than Warp being PDQ)
Borg Transwarp is like moving at warp 9.9999... something, not exceeding Warp 10, which is what Paris supposedly did (and decided he didn't do later on in the series)
As to actually doing infinite speed turning someone into space lizard/newts, that is just plain stupid.
That's the Vaadwaur. You should have get that by now. :P
Yeah, I already got that. But maybe they are just too obvious. A distraction from the real deal.
Too smart for Cryptic.
They also will have had an equivalent of Justin Bieber who came along a year or two after Voyager left. However, unlike our society, theirs did the natural and correct thing and committed mass suicide.
...#LLAP...
Statistically they are relatively save from cosmic desasters like solar flares and asteroids since everything outside their atmosphere was progressing at "normal" speeds.
They are also likely to never explore space beyond their orbit because every probe or astronaut will return thousands of years after they were born, unless they invent time travel to the degree that they can pretty much pop back into their own relative time frame at will.
If it were not for Voyager their whole science probably would never have developed into a direction where they considered the whider universe changing. It would appear to be entirely constant.
Someone correct me, but if we are talking real live science, would the time differential not mean, that they only receive teh same amount of energy from their sun we get in 35 years over the course of 20 million years?
The Planet should be frozen solid and light would be reaaaaally dim and blue shifted?
Borg Transwarp is different yes, but I said Voth. The Voth in Distant Origin were shown using a "normal" Transwarp. Chakotay even comments on it in the episode.
Someone with a better knowledge than I may provide the answer you are looking for. However, I don't see anything that would cause what you say. Everything they are to receive, light included will manifest itself at their pace.
In a probably not exactly accurate example, it's like when you receive a tv broadcast. It has a delay, but you get the whole broadcast just the same.
Or even (again not exactly the same thing) like seeing a star blink in the night sky but the satr may no longer be there.
I may be completely mistaken.
It still doesn't exceed Warp 10, just gets a lot closer to it than warp engines can.
I still don't understand what the Klingons were doing there. I mean, trying to recover Doom-Drum's heart, obviously, but I would have thought that was bad news.
And the Q Tribunal business was awfully confusing.
The ending of the words is ALMSIVI, brother.
How does a planet (?) form that has a tachyon (wasn't that a subatomic sci fi particle already defined as being anything but what you'd need for a planet formation?) core, and then apparently get a crust too. With geological effects that form mountains.... What is heating the place? Certainly not a molten core of heavy elements...
How does it even have proper gravity?
That planet was funny for one episode.
It does not fit in any serious story.
BTW: subspace particle field? What, tetryons? commonly found when subspace in involved? You know that stuff tends to kill some people....
not even that really, transwarp is more akin to opening a wormhole, stargate or conduit if you will and travelling through that, although the apparent speed is emence you never travel faster then your maximum speed.
i even think if memory serves they even call the fixed gateways transwarp coduits in the game.
or was you thinking of the slipstream drive, even then although the quantum slipstream drive allows faster than warp travel speeds in sector space it generates a subspace tunnel in front of your ship allowing it to travel faster than the warp speed barrier of warp 10 but even then your not really traveling faster it just seems that way as your using the tunnel in a simmilar way to using a wormhole just to a smaller extent.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
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