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how much of STO is based on the old star fleet battles game

lyran2lyran2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
Just a random thougth/question

for those familiar with the old rpg of Star Fleet Battles, i was just wondering if the STO devs refered to the old rpg for inspiration.

Wouldn't it be cool to introduce the catlike Lyran's with their Expanding Sphere Generator? True, they've already 2 cat like races in the Catians and Faresans., but the Lyran ESG could be a good alternative to take out fighters and plasma torps to a torp spread.

Or the other catlike race, the Kzinti with their disrupters and drones. these guys spamed drones all day long.

Or how 'bout the Hydrans with their Fusion Beams, Gattling Phasers (phaser G) and fighters. The fusion Beams were vicious close quarter beam weapons with the phaser g firing 4x per turn at single or multiple targets. And the fighters had the same phaser g.

Or a specialist ship/weapon: the mauler. First built by the Romulans, but eventualy every race in SFB had a mauler. it was heavily armored and slow, but it could dish out damage when that mauler was fired. A massive beam weapon that dealt extreme damage but it had huge recharge time. But the maulers usualy had a few phasers or disrupters to act as defensive weapons until the mauler was fully charged.

Like I said, just a random thought.
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  • diotwdiotw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I thought they tried to get the rights to the Kzinti, failed, and so made up the Ferasans as their own version of them?
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    This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    they can't use properties not completely owned by cbs, so none of it will be based on anything you see anywhere else.
  • f9thaceshighf9thaceshigh Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Seeing as they don't hold the license to the SFB games, or SFC for that matter, I don't think we'll see any of that any time soon.

    Besides, you know the Lyrans were just a copy of the Kzinti, right? FASA couldn't get the rights for them from Niven, so they just changed the name.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Seeing as they don't hold the license to the SFB games, or SFC for that matter, I don't think we'll see any of that any time soon.

    Besides, you know the Lyrans were just a copy of the Kzinti, right? FASA couldn't get the rights for them from Niven, so they just changed the name.
    like diotw posted, cryptic just did the same thing with the ferasans.
  • lyran2lyran2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Seeing as they don't hold the license to the SFB games, or SFC for that matter, I don't think we'll see any of that any time soon.

    Besides, you know the Lyrans were just a copy of the Kzinti, right? FASA couldn't get the rights for them from Niven, so they just changed the name.

    Honestly, i did not know that. I just remembered play SFB as a kid and I posted while it was still fresh in my mind. Interesting.

    Renaming a race to circumvent liscensing issues between games makes sense.
  • mthomps016mthomps016 Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Seeing as they don't hold the license to the SFB games, or SFC for that matter, I don't think we'll see any of that any time soon.

    Besides, you know the Lyrans were just a copy of the Kzinti, right? FASA couldn't get the rights for them from Niven, so they just changed the name.
    Ow. No, SFB is/was/never property of FASA Corporation. It has long been connected with Stephen V. Cole and Amarillo Design Bureau. As long as they are publishing and sending Paramount/CBS/etc the royalty check, they will stay open. You can see their website here: http://starfleetgames.com/about.shtml

    FASA Corporation had a separate license from Paramount. These are the same guys who came out with BattleTech, Shadowrun, and Earthdawn. It was cancelled in 1989 due to concerns over game content and what FASA was publishing. Notably, FASA shutdown game production in early 2001.

    Also, the SFB license is very strict in what it can take from Star Trek. There's no official mention of the characters, and they can only take information from TOS and TAS. Nothing later. So they are still running around in the pajamas and miniskirts!
  • dpsloss88dpsloss88 Member Posts: 765 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    None of it is based on Star Fleet Battles. It is 100% TV shows (sans animated series), Movies and original content. The TV shows and Movies are "Canon", the Original Content will become a foot note in history like FASAs roleplaying game and Star Fleet Battles.
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    dpsloss88 wrote: »
    None of it is based on Star Fleet Battles. It is 100% TV shows (sans animated series), Movies and original content. The TV shows and Movies are "Canon", the Original Content will become a foot note in history like FASAs roleplaying game and Star Fleet Battles.

    Caitians are from the animated series.
  • drmoxdrmox Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    FASA Trek had some really nice Ship Recognition Manuals.

    There are some really cool stories and designs in them. Maybe someone in STO could get a little more "inspired" around here for design ideas from those manuals instead of staying up late watching A51 vids of the USAF flying about and copious amounts non Trek Sci Fi ohh umm...Tron films. :rolleyes: :P
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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Seeing as they don't hold the license to the SFB games, or SFC for that matter, I don't think we'll see any of that any time soon.

    Besides, you know the Lyrans were just a copy of the Kzinti, right? FASA couldn't get the rights for them from Niven, so they just changed the name.

    Where did you get this from?

    1. True as to STO not holding the rights to SFB. Therefore, all of the "SFB history" and/or the extra SFB races can't come into STO.

    2. Lyrans aren't a FASA invention. They're a SFB invention, bit of an alternate "feline" race to counter the Kzinti and another "whole cloth" invention of SFB like the Hydrans & ISC.

    3. Ferasans might be a "clone" of the Kzinti like SFC did (no rights from Niven, make a "Kzinti-esque race" to fill that void. Or, they might just be a KDF side Caitian, much as the Lyrans are "KDF Side / Coalition" kitties in SFB...
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  • borg0vermindborg0vermind Member Posts: 498 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ESG would be superb to have in STO. It's a unique weapon.
    So would be the Ion Cannon from the Klingons with range 5 and double damage compared to a beam.

    Other than that, the Lyrans have very nice ships.
    Also, the ISC would be a very nice addition to the game.
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