I only respect non-A2B players. If players need that much help to die from FBP, they should play something else.
I have an engineer alt with crappy gear that I could pull of aux2bat with easy since I can just get the doffs off B'Tran easily, but why? I can do PvE fine as-is. Heck, I've gotten 1st place in the CE event more times than I did before the event without needing aux2bat. It's a crutch and engineer ships don't really need it to do well.
I stand there in the CE event, just firing away at the CE, clicking MANUALLY all the abilities (Too lazy to set up a bind for an alt I barely use) and:
1) It doesn't die
2) It gets first place
3) It isn't even a fleet ship. It's the free one you get when you get to level 40.
I have an engineer alt with crappy gear that I could pull of aux2bat with easy since I can just get the doffs off B'Tran easily, but why? I can do PvE fine as-is. Heck, I've gotten 1st place in the CE event more times than I did before the event without needing aux2bat. It's a crutch and engineer ships don't really need it to do well.
I stand there in the CE event, just firing away at the CE, clicking MANUALLY all the abilities (Too lazy to set up a bind for an alt I barely use) and:
1) It doesn't die
2) It gets first place
3) It isn't even a fleet ship. It's the free one you get when you get to level 40.
Getting 1st place in an eng heavy cruiser is easy as sh*t anyways. Sorry but that's not a proof, that's just confirmation that Aux2Bat hinders your healing powers. I've gotten 1st place in CE every time with my kdf farming character simply healing people and firing away. Doesn't really require any binds or gear, just some damaged teammembers.
Btw, you people and your Aux2Bat circle jerk ... really cute.
On the bright side, if people don't time their powers, they get shredded by FBP ...
we were talking about a2b.I guess for pve heroes is normal for one ship with beam to be able to kill 4-5 escorts (as in escorts ...the wannabe xindi escort is a cruiser with escort like speed and turn rate) at once.
we were talking about a2b.I guess for pve heroes is normal for one ship with beam to be able to kill 4-5 escorts (as in escorts ...the wannabe xindi escort is a cruiser with escort like speed and turn rate) at once.
You were talking about A2B in the FPB thread ... i just brought both together, cause you like FAW and A2B so much.
I've been playing PvP on and off since around game launch, and the recent prevelance of FBP really only began lately - particularly in response to the "vape" build. So, I wonder, are those that are complaining about FBP the one's who use to go around vaping on a whim ?
you will notice that both powers can be on the same ship
Are you really complaining about ships with dual A2B and something like FPB I? You know you can just keep shooting right? And if it's a sci ship with FBP II or III then just ignore it or use a keybind to signal your friendly sci to nuke the TRIBBLE once he tries something. In the most unfortunate scenario of you having all tac buddies you're sh*t out of luck anyways. Well at least if you can't properly coordinate.
Are you really complaining about ships with dual A2B and something like FPB I? You know you can just keep shooting right? And if it's a sci ship with FBP II or III then just ignore it or use a keybind to signal your friendly sci to nuke the TRIBBLE once he tries something. In the most unfortunate scenario of you having all tac buddies you're sh*t out of luck anyways. Well at least if you can't properly coordinate.
yea keep shooting since they have rsp all the time on anyway.
I was ready to uninstall from doing the Farmville stuff in STO and hit up a bunch of Arenas/CnH earlier...and...I didn't see a single FBP ship in any of them. There were some extremely painful 15-0/1 Arenas, lol - so perhaps there wasn't time to see any FBP, heh...but I didn't see any in around 8 or so combined matches (I really should have taken the wrappers, but I just wanted to get blown up some and wasn't thinking about that...lol).
yea keep shooting since they have rsp all the time on anyway.
Wait, the guy telling everybody timing is dead can't time his attacks to circumvent RSP and FBP? Do you even Beam Overload (,bro ...)? Just get used to finally not being able to do everything in your little escort. You have to just rely more on your teammates, as frustrating as this can be.
I am so tired of cryptic... this game is more frustrating than enjoyable anymore and I don't need a break because many other people feel the same way and many have left because they are tired of cryptic. We are tired of all the TRIBBLE they keep adding to the game and we are tried of all the "chance" TRIBBLE. We are also tired of the fact that shields don't mean TRIBBLE in this game anymore and that you might as well not even equip them. Cryptic doesn't know what they are doing and I really wish interplay (if they were still in business) were developing this game.
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So far I've seen:
fbp escorts, fbp beam escorts, fbp ambassador, fbp voquv, fbp odyssey, fbp sci vessels, fbp bastion, fbp wells, fbp vesta, fbp heavy cruiser.
All of them died with a few buffed cannons volleys.
Here is what happens when people copy other players' tactics without knowing how to use them effectively. It seems everyone thinks it's some magical protection against everything that could be thrown their way.
Here is what happens when people copy other players' tactics without knowing how to use them effectively. It seems everyone thinks it's some magical protection against everything that could be thrown their way.
Hey, it is a magical i-win button when someone with the proper intuition uses it. Just, most people are bad and have it on auto keybind, so they ise it without getting shot at.
Or use it with an a2b build or any number of bad player scenarios
Hey, it is a magical i-win button when someone with the proper intuition uses it. Just, most people are bad and have it on auto keybind, so they ise it without getting shot at.
Or use it with an a2b build or any number of bad player scenarios
Could definitely explain why I didn't see as much of it...folks off chasing butterflies while they spacebar their FBP wouldn't show up on my radar.
So far I've seen:
fbp escorts, fbp beam escorts, fbp ambassador, fbp voquv, fbp odyssey, fbp sci vessels, fbp bastion, fbp wells, fbp vesta, fbp heavy cruiser.
All of them died with a few buffed cannons volleys.
Typical noob behavior.
"Ihihihih now take this i haz FBP now im an unbeatable pro 1!!1!11!1!11" -fbp times out- Boom! "fu** you stupid game modders!1!!1!1!"
Really, never seen a professional PvPer or someone into premade team PvP using fbp.
PS, Oh well, Kax and Jedinikon, they know what they're doing.
Scora, you're not included in the PS but in the sentence above the PS itself.
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"What a time it was, with all the world against us, what a time it was... When all we did seemed wrong,
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
Scora, you're not included in the PS but in the sentence above the PS itself.
...Like I care about what people think, and I truly don't care about people I never met-- AKA those you stated. Just a hint, and it's Queen Scora to you.
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
...Like I care about what people think, and I truly don't care about people I never met-- AKA those you stated. Just a hint, and it's Queen Scora to you.
HEY STRAWMAN!
Are you for realzies?
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Wait, the guy telling everybody timing is dead can't time his attacks to circumvent RSP and FBP? Do you even Beam Overload (,bro ...)? Just get used to finally not being able to do everything in your little escort. You have to just rely more on your teammates, as frustrating as this can be.
No i dont BO ...Im a dhc nOOb .Maybe you can teach me some of the secrets of pvp.
how is that when 1 a2b faw ship can solo 3-4 escorts is fine but when a escort can kill 3-4 ships is "Just get used to finally not being able to do everything in your little escort. You have to just rely more on your teammates, as frustrating as this can be" ....the only answer for that is "Kirk" .
"Ihihihih now take this i haz FBP now im an unbeatable pro 1!!1!11!1!11" -fbp times out- Boom! "fu** you stupid game modders!1!!1!1!"
Really, never seen a professional PvPer or someone into premade team PvP using fbp.
PS, Oh well, Kax and Jedinikon, they know what they're doing.
Scora, you're not included in the PS but in the sentence above the PS itself.
Exactly except for those 2 and Vice, most ships using FBP are a joke. The ones that put some effort into the build are deadly. The irony, a tac captain in a sci ship would be the deadliest.
how is that when 1 escort can solo 3-4 a2b faw ships is fine but when a a2b faw ship can kill 3-4 ships is "Just get used to finally not being able to do everything in your little a2b faw ship. You have to just rely more on your teammates, as frustrating as this can be" ....the only answer for that is "Kirk" .
Here fixed that for you. The reverse could be applied to your logic aswell. TBH, both iaren't fine. I just dislike you believing that the previous status quo was actually the acceptable way of playing this game. I'd rather have multiple option instead of basically 2 (that being sci CC/healer and damage escort).
It's what happens in a solo/duo queue where you can't rely on your team. Well, you simply take the ship and build what is the most self sufficient. There's a reason why FAW and FBP don't play a huge role in team arena games where you can actually coordinate with your team mates. Hit-and-Run tactics is the keyword here.
Here fixed that for you. The reverse could be applied to your logic aswell. TBH, both iaren't fine. I just dislike you believing that the previous status quo was actually the acceptable way of playing this game. I'd rather have multiple option instead of basically 2 (that being sci CC/healer and damage escort).
It's what happens in a solo/duo queue where you can't rely on your team. Well, you simply take the ship and build what is the most self sufficient. There's a reason why FAW and FBP don't play a huge role in team arena games where you can actually coordinate with your team mates. Hit-and-Run tactics is the keyword here.
so its fine for the healer/support class to do more damage than the dps class (escorts) with no penalty.Same applies for the weapons (beams).
btw you are probably the best pvp player in the history since you can solo that with 1 escort.:rolleyes: ...that shows how much you play and understand how the game works.Pretty sure you ran out of borgs to kill :rolleyes:
fbp vape (not much) ha'feh, fbp rom temporal ship.
Both were just zombies.
Ohh so you couldn't kill them? Not surprised.
I like when ships ignore me in arena because of FBP. I can pass heals like "Hazard emitters III" with no problem and no worries of dying. Healing others is my job anyway.
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
I like when ships ignore me in arena because of FBP. I can pass heals like "Hazard emitters III" with no problem and no worries of dying. Healing others is my job anyway.
No, with zombies I mean they couldn't do anything for their team.
Just 10 seconds and they were gone. Ofc I brought them down.
so its fine for the healer/support class to do more damage than the dps class (escorts) with no penalty.Same applies for the weapons (beams).
What class? It's a cruiser. That's just a slow engineering heavy ship and nothing more, and if somebody decides to fit it for combat instead of healing, then that's fine by me.
The only problem with beams i have is this stupid overcap and the possiblities to mitigate all the power drain, but that's not the beams fault. The weapon type itself is fine (see attrition damage vs. spike) and has enough disadvantages (on paper) compared to cannons. Cannons on the other hand have always been good to do spike damage (and to some extent attrition) and with a more stable BO (and Omni Arrays) you can still keep your full cannon noobishness and still use a BO to enhance your setup even more.
btw you are probably the best pvp player in the history since you can solo that with 1 escort. ...that shows how much you play and understand how the game works.Pretty sure you ran out of borgs to kill
Shows how much you know about other setups, apart from your beloved little bug. I don't even fly FAW because i think it's lame, but i won't deny anybody the choice to do so just because of my personal preference. Nope, i really like my little non-A2B Contortix.
Just stop declaring anthing besides a certain subset of ships "real escorts" :rolleyes: that only the most "skilled" of players can fly ... keep on going and you'll eventually become a caricature of yourself.
What class? It's a cruiser. That's just a slow engineering heavy ship and nothing more, and if somebody decides to fit it for combat instead of healing, then that's fine by me.
The only problem with beams i have is this stupid overcap and the possiblities to mitigate all the power drain, but that's not the beams fault. The weapon type itself is fine (see attrition damage vs. spike) and has enough disadvantages (on paper) compared to cannons. Cannons on the other hand have always been good to do spike damage (and to some extent attrition) and with a more stable BO (and Omni Arrays) you can still keep your full cannon noobishness and still use a BO to enhance your setup even more.
Shows how much you know about other setups, apart from your beloved little bug. I don't even fly FAW because i think it's lame, but i won't deny anybody the choice to do so just because of my personal preference. Nope, i really like my little non-A2B Contortix.
Just stop declaring anthing besides a certain subset of ships "real escorts" :rolleyes: that only the most "skilled" of players can fly ... keep on going and you'll eventually become a caricature of yourself.
Edna's "beloved little bug" is one of the deadliest ships I know.
Full cannon is noobishness? I'll leave you thinking on what you just said. This post is full of contradictions that I'm still trying to find them all
Just stop declaring anthing besides a certain subset of ships "real escorts" :rolleyes: that only the most "skilled" of players can fly ... keep on going and you'll eventually become a caricature of yourself.
"will" is future...you already are ...that is the difference .Now go solo premades in your escort and talk about caricatures.
btw i use my support ships as support ships.No need for broken mechanics to "show you my skillZ".
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I have an engineer alt with crappy gear that I could pull of aux2bat with easy since I can just get the doffs off B'Tran easily, but why? I can do PvE fine as-is. Heck, I've gotten 1st place in the CE event more times than I did before the event without needing aux2bat. It's a crutch and engineer ships don't really need it to do well.
I stand there in the CE event, just firing away at the CE, clicking MANUALLY all the abilities (Too lazy to set up a bind for an alt I barely use) and:
1) It doesn't die
2) It gets first place
3) It isn't even a fleet ship. It's the free one you get when you get to level 40.
On the bright side, if people don't time their powers, they get shredded by FBP ...
Getting 1st place in an eng heavy cruiser is easy as sh*t anyways. Sorry but that's not a proof, that's just confirmation that Aux2Bat hinders your healing powers. I've gotten 1st place in CE every time with my kdf farming character simply healing people and firing away. Doesn't really require any binds or gear, just some damaged teammembers.
Btw, you people and your Aux2Bat circle jerk ... really cute.
This made me laugh my TRIBBLE off.
we were talking about a2b.I guess for pve heroes is normal for one ship with beam to be able to kill 4-5 escorts (as in escorts ...the wannabe xindi escort is a cruiser with escort like speed and turn rate) at once.
You were talking about A2B in the FPB thread ... i just brought both together, cause you like FAW and A2B so much.
you will notice that both powers can be on the same ship
Are you really complaining about ships with dual A2B and something like FPB I? You know you can just keep shooting right? And if it's a sci ship with FBP II or III then just ignore it or use a keybind to signal your friendly sci to nuke the TRIBBLE once he tries something. In the most unfortunate scenario of you having all tac buddies you're sh*t out of luck anyways. Well at least if you can't properly coordinate.
yea keep shooting since they have rsp all the time on anyway.
So far I've seen:
fbp escorts, fbp beam escorts, fbp ambassador, fbp voquv, fbp odyssey, fbp sci vessels, fbp bastion, fbp wells, fbp vesta, fbp heavy cruiser.
All of them died with a few buffed cannons volleys.
Wait, the guy telling everybody timing is dead can't time his attacks to circumvent RSP and FBP? Do you even Beam Overload (,bro ...)? Just get used to finally not being able to do everything in your little escort. You have to just rely more on your teammates, as frustrating as this can be.
I AM NOT A FAN OF PWE!!!!
MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2010
Here is what happens when people copy other players' tactics without knowing how to use them effectively. It seems everyone thinks it's some magical protection against everything that could be thrown their way.
Hey, it is a magical i-win button when someone with the proper intuition uses it. Just, most people are bad and have it on auto keybind, so they ise it without getting shot at.
Or use it with an a2b build or any number of bad player scenarios
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
Could definitely explain why I didn't see as much of it...folks off chasing butterflies while they spacebar their FBP wouldn't show up on my radar.
"Ihihihih now take this i haz FBP now im an unbeatable pro 1!!1!11!1!11" -fbp times out- Boom! "fu** you stupid game modders!1!!1!1!"
Really, never seen a professional PvPer or someone into premade team PvP using fbp.
PS, Oh well, Kax and Jedinikon, they know what they're doing.
Scora, you're not included in the PS but in the sentence above the PS itself.
we've broken all our bonds, but life kept going on, what a time, what a time it was..." - Clem Tholet
...Like I care about what people think, and I truly don't care about people I never met-- AKA those you stated. Just a hint, and it's Queen Scora to you.
HEY STRAWMAN!
Are you for realzies?
And a whole 55mins of FBP-ing. 31.05.2013.
Poor soul didnt have time to log out.
No i dont BO ...Im a dhc nOOb .Maybe you can teach me some of the secrets of pvp.
how is that when 1 a2b faw ship can solo 3-4 escorts is fine but when a escort can kill 3-4 ships is "Just get used to finally not being able to do everything in your little escort. You have to just rely more on your teammates, as frustrating as this can be" ....the only answer for that is "Kirk" .
Exactly except for those 2 and Vice, most ships using FBP are a joke. The ones that put some effort into the build are deadly. The irony, a tac captain in a sci ship would be the deadliest.
Here fixed that for you. The reverse could be applied to your logic aswell. TBH, both iaren't fine. I just dislike you believing that the previous status quo was actually the acceptable way of playing this game. I'd rather have multiple option instead of basically 2 (that being sci CC/healer and damage escort).
It's what happens in a solo/duo queue where you can't rely on your team. Well, you simply take the ship and build what is the most self sufficient. There's a reason why FAW and FBP don't play a huge role in team arena games where you can actually coordinate with your team mates. Hit-and-Run tactics is the keyword here.
so its fine for the healer/support class to do more damage than the dps class (escorts) with no penalty.Same applies for the weapons (beams).
btw you are probably the best pvp player in the history since you can solo that with 1 escort.:rolleyes: ...that shows how much you play and understand how the game works.Pretty sure you ran out of borgs to kill :rolleyes:
fbp vape (not much) ha'feh, fbp rom temporal ship.
Both were just zombies.
Ohh so you couldn't kill them? Not surprised.
I like when ships ignore me in arena because of FBP. I can pass heals like "Hazard emitters III" with no problem and no worries of dying. Healing others is my job anyway.
No, with zombies I mean they couldn't do anything for their team.
Just 10 seconds and they were gone. Ofc I brought them down.
What class? It's a cruiser. That's just a slow engineering heavy ship and nothing more, and if somebody decides to fit it for combat instead of healing, then that's fine by me.
The only problem with beams i have is this stupid overcap and the possiblities to mitigate all the power drain, but that's not the beams fault. The weapon type itself is fine (see attrition damage vs. spike) and has enough disadvantages (on paper) compared to cannons. Cannons on the other hand have always been good to do spike damage (and to some extent attrition) and with a more stable BO (and Omni Arrays) you can still keep your full cannon noobishness and still use a BO to enhance your setup even more.
Shows how much you know about other setups, apart from your beloved little bug. I don't even fly FAW because i think it's lame, but i won't deny anybody the choice to do so just because of my personal preference. Nope, i really like my little non-A2B Contortix.
Just stop declaring anthing besides a certain subset of ships "real escorts" :rolleyes: that only the most "skilled" of players can fly ... keep on going and you'll eventually become a caricature of yourself.
Edna's "beloved little bug" is one of the deadliest ships I know.
Full cannon is noobishness? I'll leave you thinking on what you just said. This post is full of contradictions that I'm still trying to find them all
"will" is future...you already are ...that is the difference .Now go solo premades in your escort and talk about caricatures.
btw i use my support ships as support ships.No need for broken mechanics to "show you my skillZ".