I see a lot of posts regarding ships, personally I really don't care much what happens. The thing that stresses me out is on my account of the characters I play daily, I have inventories of vr-ur mkxii amounting to billions of energy credits, tens of millions of each dilithium and fleet credits on each character. Ships are a drop in the bucket. They need to open up a pawn shop on drozana where you trade old gear in for like 1/4 their value or something. You can't even vendor them for decent energy credits lulz. Oh well
The focus is on ships cause that's all they've told us about so far...there are folks bringing up their concerns about the gear, but until Cryptic drops out the blogs about them - folks can't breathe a sigh of relief or break out the pitchforks.
Personally, I wasn't happy with some of the things I noticed with the goof they had yesterday with the upgraded consoles/gear...noticing that some gear showed those bugged increases but other gear did not. I'm trying not to worry too much about it at this point, don't want to waste my rage now if I need it later.
There are no universal console slots. Just universal console items.
But, but, but...we can hope!
I dread the thought of there being a 4th Tac Console on the Fleet T5-U Varanus...lol. Meh, I'd even grumble about a 4th Eng Console. I want that 5th Sci...but I know they'll never do that, they hate the KDF...but maybe if they give the Feds a Universal Console slot, then I'll be okay!
current T5 ships have 9 consoles...if T6 means that they get +1 console slot, that would mean they have 10.
From what i understand the free upgrade applies only to ships that already have 10 consoles
and the ZEN upgrade to ships with 9 console slots.
since i can also only speculate, i'd say that T5 ships (9 consoles) will become T5U. And all T5.5 ships will be T5U aswell (10 consoles).
Making T5U the new standard at max level (like T5 is now) and T6 the new T5.5
I think cryptic just wants to bring all currently available ships onto one level (lobi, zenstore, free ships) and start upward from there with the new T6.
personaly i'd say they shouldn't have bothered with introducing a new ship tier. A new class of ships, new mechanics, new boff class...yeah sure, but a new tier is just unneccesary.
I dread the thought of there being a 4th Tac Console on the Fleet T5-U Varanus...lol. Meh, I'd even grumble about a 4th Eng Console. I want that 5th Sci...but I know they'll never do that, they hate the KDF...but maybe if they give the Feds a Universal Console slot, then I'll be okay!
Er...maybe I need sleep...eh?
Come to think of it. yes, to what section would they add the extra console? From that perspective, it might very well be a separate slot altogether (and, in that, a true universal slot might not even be impossible).
Come to think of it. yes, to what section would they add the extra console? From that perspective, it might very well be a separate slot altogether (and, in that, a true universal slot might not even be impossible).
That would be kind of trippy, a Universal Console slot where you could only slot Universal Consoles.
i doubt the zen cost to upgrade a 9 console ship will be as high as the zen cost to upgrade a fleet ship...atleast it should be that way.
The fact that they listed them separately kind of suggests that for me.
My speculation: fleet ship to T5U...500 zen, T5 ship to T5U...1000 zen, T6 ship...3000-3500 zen
anyway...cryptic managed to post 2 blogs that still kind of tell nothing conclusive. A blog with actual stats of a T6 and T5U ship would probably shed some light on it, guess we have to wait a few weeks for that.
i doubt the zen cost to upgrade a 9 console ship will be as high as the zen cost to upgrade a fleet ship...atleast it should be that way.
The fact that they listed them separately kind of suggests that for me.
My speculation: fleet ship to T5U...500 zen, T5 ship to T5U...1000 zen, T6 ship...3000-3500 zen
anyway...cryptic managed to post 2 blogs that still kind of tell nothing conclusive. A blog with actual stats of a T6 and T5U ship would probably shed some light on it, guess we have to wait a few weeks for that.
A Standard T5 ship upgraded to a T5-U ship won't have the same stats as the Fleet T5 ship upgraded to a Fleet T5-U ship. They're getting the same thing out the T5-U upgrade, the Standard T5 ship upgraded to T5-U won't be equal to the Fleet T5-U. Why would the Standard T5 ship cost more?
I'm just hoping that Cryptic is kind enough to make the costing ship upgrades no more than 500 ZEN...
As for the extra console from the upgrade, my hopes are that the players will get to choose which type to gain, although the max number for any particular type would be set at 5. That way, we don't start seeing 6 tac console scimitars, but still have a selection. And 5 tac console Fleet Avengers. That'd be fun.
If not a selection, probably predetermined, based on ship type (cruiser, escort, etc.) and other factors like what consoles they already have, their boff layout, and other things.
Here's hoping I'll be able to get a fifth tac console on my Fleet Avenger for free! :rolleyes:
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It does't bug me that events ship get a free upgrade, it drove me nuts grinding for a couple Dyson ships, alot less work then getting my Fleet Corsair (which I spent 20 bucks in fleet moduals for).
So on my fed toon and my KDF toon I'll have a T-5U Dyson Sci Destroyer as the main ship, for free, and for my primaey character I'll have a Fleet T-5.5U Corsair FDC, and as back up I'll upgrade my Maruader FDC as well, which I got for free giving me an account wide T5-U ship as well. 10 bucks. I'm okay with that.
If I were a betting man I would put my money on all the 'free-upgrade' ships getting an extra engi console and the new t6 ones having a better arrangement.
Call me a cynic, but I htink we will see a run of future t6 ships with better layouts than those we get at launch. A sixth tac console ship is something people would pay good money for, so why sell that one at the start. Sell me a t6 'bigger-better-faster' ship first, then sell me one with 6 tac consoles later. This way I buy two...
Call me a cynic, but I htink we will see a run of future t6 ships with better layouts than those we get at launch. A sixth tac console ship is something people would pay good money for, so why sell that one at the start. Sell me a t6 'bigger-better-faster' ship first, then sell me one with 6 tac consoles later. This way I buy two...
The game used to have T5 ships. Then they added T5 VA ships. Then they added T5.5 Fleet ships. Now they are adding T5U and T6 ships. At some point the game will probably add T6.5 ships and eventually T7 ships. And sadly all the Content will still be playable with T5. ships - meaning our foes die every time we accidentally bump them.
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The focus is on ships cause that's all they've told us about so far...there are folks bringing up their concerns about the gear, but until Cryptic drops out the blogs about them - folks can't breathe a sigh of relief or break out the pitchforks.
Personally, I wasn't happy with some of the things I noticed with the goof they had yesterday with the upgraded consoles/gear...noticing that some gear showed those bugged increases but other gear did not. I'm trying not to worry too much about it at this point, don't want to waste my rage now if I need it later.
There are no universal console slots.
But, but, but...we can hope!
I dread the thought of there being a 4th Tac Console on the Fleet T5-U Varanus...lol. Meh, I'd even grumble about a 4th Eng Console. I want that 5th Sci...but I know they'll never do that, they hate the KDF...but maybe if they give the Feds a Universal Console slot, then I'll be okay!
Er...maybe I need sleep...eh?
From what i understand the free upgrade applies only to ships that already have 10 consoles
and the ZEN upgrade to ships with 9 console slots.
since i can also only speculate, i'd say that T5 ships (9 consoles) will become T5U. And all T5.5 ships will be T5U aswell (10 consoles).
Making T5U the new standard at max level (like T5 is now) and T6 the new T5.5
I think cryptic just wants to bring all currently available ships onto one level (lobi, zenstore, free ships) and start upward from there with the new T6.
personaly i'd say they shouldn't have bothered with introducing a new ship tier. A new class of ships, new mechanics, new boff class...yeah sure, but a new tier is just unneccesary.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7002163
...is a list of the ships that are free upgrades and the ships that will have an upgrade cost.
Still bugs the Hell out of me that the Event ships do not have an upgrade cost...
Come to think of it. yes, to what section would they add the extra console? From that perspective, it might very well be a separate slot altogether (and, in that, a true universal slot might not even be impossible).
That would be kind of trippy, a Universal Console slot where you could only slot Universal Consoles.
The fact that they listed them separately kind of suggests that for me.
My speculation: fleet ship to T5U...500 zen, T5 ship to T5U...1000 zen, T6 ship...3000-3500 zen
anyway...cryptic managed to post 2 blogs that still kind of tell nothing conclusive. A blog with actual stats of a T6 and T5U ship would probably shed some light on it, guess we have to wait a few weeks for that.
A Standard T5 ship upgraded to a T5-U ship won't have the same stats as the Fleet T5 ship upgraded to a Fleet T5-U ship. They're getting the same thing out the T5-U upgrade, the Standard T5 ship upgraded to T5-U won't be equal to the Fleet T5-U. Why would the Standard T5 ship cost more?
As for the extra console from the upgrade, my hopes are that the players will get to choose which type to gain, although the max number for any particular type would be set at 5. That way, we don't start seeing 6 tac console scimitars, but still have a selection. And 5 tac console Fleet Avengers. That'd be fun.
If not a selection, probably predetermined, based on ship type (cruiser, escort, etc.) and other factors like what consoles they already have, their boff layout, and other things.
Here's hoping I'll be able to get a fifth tac console on my Fleet Avenger for free! :rolleyes:
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Oh, now don't tell me you want in on all this! Well, ok. Look this that Egg Pawn hanging outside your window, pointing his laser rifle at you, waiting for my next order. He's doing his part. He helps conquer the weak-minded. He roboticizes the weak-bodied. Heck, he even helps keep the useless people from causing any trouble, but you know what? Join. Find the closest Nataran Empire roboticization center near you and join the ranks, before the ranks find you. Oh, I know, you figure it must be so satisfying to know I basically rule the world now, and you know what? It is, but do you want to know the true definition of satisfaction? Well, let me tell you a little story. One day, you see a brand new event. They're giving out boxes that give old event stuff. Your dilithium is plentiful. You buy a whole lot of Phoenix packs on your main, and open them all. You get one epic token. Then, you decide, that since you have all the Breen ships and don't give a damn about the others, you exchange it for an ultra rare, and grab yourself a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship and for the hell of it, a Voth Bulwark. You open both, leaving the Bulwark in your vast masses of starships as you jump into the bugship and deck it out, deck by deck, into the most awesome Jem'Hadar ship you can. You fly it. You enjoy it. Eventually, you get bored and leave, leaving the old Bulwark never flown... until later. Your main is long complete. Your new alt main, based off some character you pulled out of nothing just to explain away some starship being in service without the command of your dear admiral, is also complete. Mostly. Their reps and doffs are hard at work, getting you stuff. You realize the potential, and head back for your dear admiral, pull the most Voth themed build you can out of thin air, and suit up in your giant ship in the shape of you know what. You head out... and cause all sorts of havoc. Enemies scream out your name as their very life is drained away by your swarms of Aceton Assimilators. They complain to the devs of your OPness when you revive yourself from death every time you die. Do you show any form of mercy? No. After all, this isn't the United Federation of Planets, this is mother frakkin' Starfleet, where you explore strange new worlds and kick butt never kicked before. Oh, and you realize that I just wrote another speech rivaling your own signature. Cool. Oh, wait, that's just the original draft, it is part of my signature now. Oh, and yes, I am aware that I have become a Canadian Regent; one day, sooner than you'd expect, we'll suddenly decide to take over the world and declare an "alliance", and I shall become it's Regent. You know, like the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance in the mirror universe of our beloved Star Trek. Oh, who'll we be taking over with? I dunno, maybe [REDACTED], or maybe aliens from outer space. Guess you'll have to wait and find out, won't we? Until then, don't ask too many questions, or else my Breen allies on Titania might pick up on your -- [REDACTED BY BREEN CONFEDERACY FOR REASONS] Also, psst... keep an eye out for flying Tribbles! Also walls. Big, great walls, separating entire continents apart. Walls patrolled by Tribbles. Flying Tribbles. Flying Nukara Tribbles. Don't worry, it's not like they were on Venus with a herd of Tholians or anything, they just like the extreme heat and brutal weather like acid rain and hurricane force winds as the norm. Oh, and definitely keep your eye out on any two-tailed foxes, because if they ain't glowing, they're definitely an imposter. Possibly an Undine, we caught one of those once in my place once. Oh, and if you find a two-tailed fox that doesn't like the cold... most certainly ask him to say sorry. If he refuses, DESTROY HIM WITH A DOOMSDAY MACHINE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH AGAINST SUCH AN OVERPOWERED IMPOSTER!
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So on my fed toon and my KDF toon I'll have a T-5U Dyson Sci Destroyer as the main ship, for free, and for my primaey character I'll have a Fleet T-5.5U Corsair FDC, and as back up I'll upgrade my Maruader FDC as well, which I got for free giving me an account wide T5-U ship as well. 10 bucks. I'm okay with that.
Call me a cynic, but I htink we will see a run of future t6 ships with better layouts than those we get at launch. A sixth tac console ship is something people would pay good money for, so why sell that one at the start. Sell me a t6 'bigger-better-faster' ship first, then sell me one with 6 tac consoles later. This way I buy two...
I can see the dev doing this
Or they could go with a Universal Console slot where you can slot any type of console in it.