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edalgo
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So the villian in SW VII is going to be emperor Palpatine's ghost.
WTF!!!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Then go get all the Jedi ghosts to beat the TRIBBLE out of him and send him to the after after life!!!!
WTF!!!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Then go get all the Jedi ghosts to beat the TRIBBLE out of him and send him to the after after life!!!!
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Because this is how Humans think, my padawan. Welcome to the Internet, aka the Interwebs, aka the Interweebs, aka the IntraNets, aka the IntraWeebs, aka "Humanity's intellectual cesspool".
This is about average for the Internet; I've seen 10 stupider things in the last 5 minutes alone. OP probably just rushed out with this post before realizing that it's just a rumor.
It's a potentially interesting extension of the established concept of Force-ghosts (I'm sure there's a name for them).
I dunno, my hopes for the sequels were pretty low to begin with, so whatever they want to do is fine by me.
Only 10? What internet filters are you using (besides ad-block)? :P
So... Congress and Parliament are run from the internet? It all makes sense now! :P
In relation to the rumour... it is from LatinoReviews; a less than reliable source, shall we say? I've seen them come out with hundreds of 'rumours' that turned out to be 500% false.
Come on, I doubt JJ would have had the SW:EU purged only to immediately go to one of its most famous arcs for the first in a sequel trilogy. If he takes anyone from the Original Trilogy as a villain, I would hope that it would be Thrawn, as he was also a major force before ROTJ, unless the comics/novels running alongside the Original Trilogy were purged too, but I think it may have only been everything after ROTJ.
Either way, I don't think Palpatine is coming back... yet.
For all Abrams' faults with Trek, I think he will do legit good with Star Wars, especially with the creative team he has to keep him from nuking the fridge.
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I call.
JJ's a hack with negative talent. I'll see your beans and raise you a hot dog.
Clearly you aren't familiar with his TV work. Call.
(Although I suppose it's entirely possible for somebody to be good at TV and bad at movies...)
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I'll see your Frankfurter and raise you a British Sausage! :P (No, that isn't an innuendo!)
Honestly, I think he's terrible when it comes to Star Trek. In the case of a franchise like Star Wars, which isn't restrained by the rational, and which he is a self-proclaimed fanatic, I think he has a lot of potential. JJ's sci-fi films are action-packed adventures; while that doesn't gel amazingly with Star Trek, the Star Wars films basically live off of that aspect (hence the name 'Star Wars'). So, I'm willing to expect something at least as good as The Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones, even if it doesn't reach the quality of The Empire Strikes Back or even A New Hope.
Look at it this way; he'd have to actually try for it to be worse than Episode III.
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What, Lost? That show was eye-rollingly bad, especially from a plot perspective.
His other movies (the 3rd Tom Cruise spy flick and that nutty one with the aliens and the train crash) had basically the same issues.
I gave Fringe a try but lost interest when it tried to be deep and significant and all that tripe. Revolution was utter trash, but then again JJ was only a producer for that so it wasn't technically his fault.
Yeah. JJ's a hack.
Try Person of Interest sometime. Spy thriller/near-future sci-fi with a good blend of drama, action, and humor.
Did you seriously just say that Episode III was worse than the first two prequels?
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In JJ's favor, it is effectively impossible for episode 7 to be worse than this travesty of nature.
You are wrong the next star wars villain is the one behind it all
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Darth Mouse
Personally, I think the Big Bad of SW7 will be either George Lucas or JJ Abrams. Or perhaps Maleficent. :P
The Phantom Menace at least still had the same sense of magic that the original trilogy had. Episode III didn't, and the writing for III was so bad that not even Patrick Stewart or Liam Neeson could have made it look good. Episode 3 was definitely of lower quality overall, albeit a great action movie.
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TPM was decent, AoTC was boring, and RotS was just awful. People just think of TPM as being the worst because it was the first of the prequels, and so it bore the full brunt of the shift in tone and style. But, it had an inimitable feel to it. Very crisp, almost creepy. Of particular note is the very first scene; the slow, sort of shimmering music really contributes. Naboo is pretty, and the finale had some of the best battle sequences in the franchise. Inb4 "bluh bluh Jar Jar bluh". Well, yes. But it's not enough to seriously damage the movie as a whole, the Jedi hated him too, and he's fully redeemed in TCW.
AoTC...it's hard to review AoTC because there's almost nothing there. It's just kind of flat. It has some of the same style as TPM, but its attempts at humor and romance really don't help. And of course there's the fact that virtually nothing happens through the entire second act, although some of the mystery stuff was done well. (It wasn't actually resolved until like last year in TCW, though, so that's a problem.)
RotS suffered the most from prequelitis, which is a word I just made up to describe the phenomenon wherein you know how the story's going to end, and thus you really don't care. III gets it the worst because we're the closest to said ending. Anakin's fall was unconvincing because he was basically a jerk the entire time (except in TCW. Noticing a theme of TCW picking up the ball the prequels dropped?) The acting was seriously terrible, even more so than AoTC, and the action...it just kind of slipped through the fingers, mainly because nobody the audience would care about was involved. The only people on the front lines were nameless, so the battles didn't feel as though they had any substance. There was also the questionable decision of having like ten thirty-second battles, rather than one or two fully fleshed out ones. Bad call.
But anyway, the thing people don't understand is that the OT is only better than the PT by the slimmest of hairs, and only in the more superficial aspects. The OT has better acting and writing, but in terms of which trilogy is the more mature and original one? Yeah, the PT takes it. The OT is a fun romp, and a well-executed fun romp. The PT aspires to be more, and...doesn't quite succeed. But it does succeed to a certain extent, which is something the OT can never lay claim to. ESB in particular gets a huge amount of undeserved worship. I can barely even watch it anymore, because every time, I notice more cringeworthy nonsense. I can elaborate, if it is requested.
Anyway, the hate for the PT -- or, more accurately, the love for the OT -- is 75% nostalgia. SW was incredibly successful when it came out because of visionary and brilliant effects work, not because of the story and characters. Those were utterly by-the-book. Which was fine. Lucas went with cliches because cliches would suffice for what he wanted to do. But the SW films have never been primarily about anything but effects.
Now, the PT took a pretty sharp turn in terms of tone and atmosphere, which is probably why a lot of fans take issue with it. I grew up after both trilogies had been established (at least, I was still fairly young when RotS came out), so I was familiar with both by the time I'd actually started watching them.
EDIT: Oh hey look ninja'd. And without a wall o' text, no less! *Applause*
No no, please don't encourage Disney! That might end up being the actual villan if they hear this!
Yes, that's right, JJ's a f**ing liar who thinks he's slick because the studios keep throwing money at his mediocre projects (which invariably get cancelled or deserve to be)
He wouldn't even be 'JJ Abrams' producing A List movies if his dad hadn't been a Paramount Producer, just plain old Jeffrey Abrams filming weddings, birthdays and bar mitzvah's and if he got lucky, amateur internet TRIBBLE. Beyond that, he's nothing.
I haven't read any of the Star Wars EU novels, but have enough of a knowledge of them to know that the early villain turned out to be clone(s) of Palpatine, who got Luke to turn to the DarkSide... :rolleyes:
Lost, Fringe, Person of Interest and Alias are all critically acclaimed television shows that by and large were well received by audiences.
You may not care for them, but you're not in the majority there.
Bad Robot makes good TV.
thats the true evil of it all soon ...darth mouse
That's far more Lindelhoff's fault than Abrams.
Cuse actually did explain a lot of things, and explained them well. The stuff that people are angry about and feel wasn't explained well, mostly came from DL. And we see him doing it ... again ... with Leftovers.
Yeah, that was the Dark Empire comics. Another entry in the Superweapon of the Month club spearheaded by Kevin J. Anderson. You thought JJ was bad? At least he didn't have a Marty Stu blow up an inhabited star system and get off with a warning.
The X-Wing series* and anything by Matt Stover and Tim Zahn are way better, and NJO starts weak but drastically improves in quality after about Star by Star. Coruscant Nights is also pretty good (barring some continuity hiccups due to a last-minute decision to change the date at which it was set), and the geopolitical military thriller parts (Leia's and Han's plot) of the Black Fleet Crisis are fun (Luke's plot is TRIBBLE, though). Steve Perry's Death Star was also really fun to read.
* In general I rate the stuff that leaves the neverending Jedi/Sith nonsense in the background and focuses more on regular people to be loads better than the rest of it.
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I made the mistake of reading I, Jedi, and swore never to read another EU novel... (Breaking that rule only once to read the Darth Maul-focused story which prequelled Phantom Menace... Now that was a good book, although I forget the title
Whereas I suspect it is merely a rumor, the concept does seem to jive with the story played out in SWTOR in the ruins west of the capital where the shades of several Darths are quite restless and interested in reasserting power, making even the living Darths nervous. Of course, that's SWTOR, which possibly has even less canonicity than the recently dethroned E.U. material.
Oh god I hope episode 7 doesn't have Palpatine's ghost as the villain.
I do agree though, KJA has a serious fetish for superweapons. I mean, putting aside the canon Death Stars 1 and 2...there are, in the more modern EU (even if it isn't canon now) off the top of my head...
The Tarkin
Sun Crusher
Galaxy Gun
Centerpoint Station
Death Star Prototype
Eclipse and Sovereign classes of Super Star Destroyer
The Darksaber
Bunch of other stuff I am probably forgetting, and that isn't even going into 'Old Republic' era superweapons.
Not all of em were made by KJA of course, but still.
Oh yes...Kyp Durren or however his name is spelled. Blows up an entire star system and hardly even gets a slap on the wrist.
All that aside, I wouldn't be against seeing the Eclipse on the big screen, I bet it would look pretty awesome in a movie. But I'd take Palpy's ghost over...*shudder* The Dalaks...I mean the Undine/8472...I mean the Yuuzhan Vong.
Bleh....the Yuuzhan Vong. You will never find a more retched hive of poor writing and over the topness.
Yeah, I was a serious collector of the novels but Legacy of the Force killed it for me. I think the last one I bought was Death Star, and that was more for the author than the logo on the cover.
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