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rearll
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Hi,
I wonder if holodecks could be added to ship interiors?
You can walk into them in Starfleet academy and on Bajor you can even run simulations (Part of the process of the story line)
Could you not make one of the doors open within the crew decks and the same apply?
Just a suggestion.
Thanks!
I wonder if holodecks could be added to ship interiors?
You can walk into them in Starfleet academy and on Bajor you can even run simulations (Part of the process of the story line)
Could you not make one of the doors open within the crew decks and the same apply?
Just a suggestion.
Thanks!
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Why not? All the work is done, I wouldn't have thought it would take a lot to put in place.
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Too much work. Apparently there isn't enough money in making the Alpha Quadrant immersive.
It would, but it's not very practical.
There are currently 5 different interiors a Federation character could have (small, medium, large, TOS, Belfast), with a sixth (Voyager) on the way. These interiors are all contained within one giant map.
I haven't counted, but I suspect the various interiors don't have the same number of doors, since they're different sizes. That means there isn't a direct 1:1 correspondence in doors across the various interiors.
So, if this giant, all-interiors-in-one map were available in the Foundry (which it isn't), an author would have to place five (soon, six) different doors, not one.
Finally, every time the devs added or altered a ship interior, they would have to re-upload it to the Foundry, which may or may not affect existing missions. And every time a new interior was added, Foundry authors would have to edit their mission to include the new doors.
Also: The Defiant and TOS enterprise didn't have holodecks, so the the TOS and Belfast interiors *shouldn't* have them.
And lockbox ships, Breen ships, etc. have bridges only, not full interiors. So any players using those ships would be unable to access any holodeck features.
If we include the holodeck on the Intrepid interior, the first thing we'll hear is "Why isn't there a holodeck on MY (non-Intrepid) interior?"
Having to go through and add holodecks to all of the other interiors is unlikely at this time, and would require a fair bit of work, including new assets for things like Klingon and Romulan Holodecks.
The next thing we'd hear is, "Why doesn't my Holodeck DO anything?"
So, we can put in the room, but I don't think that's all we're talking about. We can't use it as a Foundry door, because your ship is only accessible by you, and those you invite to it, and it's not a persistent map. So. . . what does it DO? And, presumably, if it does something, we'd need to do the work to make it do that thing.
So. . . all in all, adding holodecks to ship interiors is not a trivial thing. It would be if we were JUST talking about the Intrepid, and we were JUST talking about a big empty thematic room.
But I don't think we are.
If you need a map to put them, why not just use the holodecks at the academy?
It has been suggested that each of the in-game holodecks, regardless of where they are, become a 'universal' entry point for 'holostory' missions in the Foundry.
What is meant by this is 'a holodeck is a holodeck' - you don't have to run to a specific location holodeck to start a holostory there. Just go to the nearest holodeck and all available holostories are available. This does two things:
One - it simulates that holoprograms can be carried around like books and plugged into any available holodeck to run (Vulcan Love Slave #4 anyone? lol) .
And Two - probably most importantly - it makes coding WAY easier for holodecks. Instead of having to have individual locations programmed for each holodeck in the game, only a single piece of coding is needed - then copy and pasted to all holodeck panels throughout the game. This cuts down on dev costs - making it that much more likely to be implemented.
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There is also another problem. Some ships canonically didn't have Holodecks.
Either they are too old (Consitution) or too small (Defiant, Oberth).
How about this?
Create "Starfleet Holodeck", "KDF Holodeck", "Romulan Holodeck", and "Alien Holodeck" as four separate maps.
On each and every ship interior (including the non-faction ships, on the ones that have interiors), link a door to take you to the appropriate map.
Then, you could have the Holodeck do something. That part I haven't worked out yet, but even if it merely served as a gateway to the "Episode Replay" dialog, there would be many who would apprciate and praise the addition.
Okay, thanks for the reply - appreciate it
Or maybe just use holodecks for stellar carthography, or some such.
Btw, Starbase has an (empty) holodeck too, has it not? Was it ever meant to be used?
Well, you have already designed Voyager's holodeck, so copying it from another map would work. So far we have only three canon interiors. Intrepid, TOS and Defiant. The Defiant has no holodeck, and neither does the TOS interior, so just focusing on making the Canon ships as close as possible will allow you to avoid the dilemma of adding Holodecks everywhere else. Some ships simply didn't have them.
And finally.. You should copy the Intrepid Interior to the foundry, and there the Holodeck could be used. (If you're using the Intrepid for missions, it means you must have copied it to another map, and you could copy said copy to the Foundry. The Defiant interior is in the foundry for instance)
So yes, in this case, it'd be an empty room to increase immersion, but if you can get the interior to the Foundry... You'd have lots of fun.
Of course, I'd rather have you'd do Trophies than anything else.