what is there to even do?

agentkoval

I am suffocating under the monotony of this game now and am looking for someone to give me relief or at least hope. I have been playing since the game came out. I honestly have to say that it was so much different back then, both better and worse. Regardless of how it used to be, all it is now is a waste.

Up until season 9, I was a paying gold member. I paid my monthly subscription simply because I am such a huge ST fan and I loved the idea of finally having an MMORPG and could not bring myself to cancel it. season 9 was a game changer, litterally. Season 9 took so much away from what STO was and solidified my fear that the amount of money I poured into the game would not be returned in the enjoyment I experienced. I cant say that season 9 was the sole reason, it was actually season 8 and the release of the sphere that I began loosing hope (instead of opening a while knew quadrant to us, they gave us a sphere....).

Ok, so I am at the point where I have 5 lvl 50 toons, all maxed out in rep and in T5 fleets. I have the good ships, dreadnoughts, and even the weird Vulcan ship. I have played through the story again on very difficult (which was kinda fun) but it was rather easy still. I have played all the STF so many times I dont even want to go there, yet now they are the main source of crafting material I am forced to once again.

so besides playing weak stories, repetitive STF grinding, unbalanced PVP slaughtering, dil farming, and EC farming (pointless now that they nerfed that as well) is there anything else to do?

I want to log in and play a game, not repeat the episode of south park where I essentially kill boar in the forest.

Can we get a new game, or at least an expansion where it is fundamentally separate from this?

nachtfangen

Agreed, 100%

adverbero

Lot of good players making mission off their own back. Now just to clarify, I'm not absolving the development teams responsibility to make content, BUT there is a wealth of content that is largely going Ignored and under played right now, in game already in the foundry mission search window

You want content, there it hides


And just to play devils advocate, The focus of the dev leadership seems to be more systems and polish focused, The quality of much of the game has been enhanced in recent months from basic aesthetics, ( Origin, Odyssey uniform code, ESD revamp, New Tutorial and ealy missions, etc ) and X2 is in progress anyway

bobosmrade1

sopwithsnipe wrote: »

OP, if you are bored take a break for a while. Play something completely different for a few months. Recharge your batteries, and when you come back you can look forward to discovering whatever changes were made while you were gone.

Exactly. Many times when I lost my will to play, I did this and it helped. You get very exited when you don't play the game for few months and then enter something new in it.

baudl

take a break and play another game
play and try out the foundry (also as an author)
start a new toon

pic one...

azurianstar

Once they fix the foundry of course. :P


But yeah, give the Foundry a try. You might actually enjoy making your own story and creating your own landscapes.

vivenneanthony

adverbero wrote: »

Lot of good players making mission off their own back. Now just to clarify, I'm not absolving the development teams responsibility to make content, BUT there is a wealth of content that is largely going Ignored and under played right now, in game already in the foundry mission search window

You want content, there it hides


And just to play devils advocate, The focus of the dev leadership seems to be more systems and polish focused, The quality of much of the game has been enhanced in recent months from basic aesthetics, ( Origin, Odyssey uniform code, ESD revamp, New Tutorial and ealy missions, etc ) and X2 is in progress anyway

If I bored I rather go to some unexplored cluster and explore, the very basis of Star Trek. If I want to go to a holodeck, I would play a Foundry mission.

I rather not go to a Holodeck which I think Foundry is more ideal for. So all that untapped player created content that Cryptic mandates because they won't develop a substantial amount of content, revamp Genesis(They had 4 years), or pay Foundry players to make content (I mean cash since their developers aren't doing it).

I will not play Foundry simply some other player can play all that untapped content.

gurluas

I feel the same way. It's very tedious to play STO atm.
It takes many months for a single mission to come out.

When I signed up I was hoping for more customization, more trophies, more options for your ship interior, updates to the foundry, regular Features series etc.

Instead, they take customization away (And don't add any except for a very few super expensive Lobi outfits), take features away, release a single episode after 2-3 months alongside a mountain of monotonous grind. It's very annoying.

I wish this game goes back towards being a good game. But it's gotten worse ever since I joined.

xparr15

I hate to say it but devs are making exactly what players demanded. People asked for bug fixes, and revamps and that's exactly what we're getting. Developers are not gods and can only do so many things at once, especially on something as complicated as an MMO.

I for one really enjoy the game and can find more than enough to do, even without the foundry.

snoggymack22

xparr15 wrote: »

I for one really enjoy the game and can find more than enough to do, even without the foundry.

It might help the OP if you list what it is exactly you are doing?

dahminus

Are you a master on ground like that in space?

Have you tried the battle channels yet?

Beat no win scenario?

Foundry missions can be deliciously trekkie

Dabbled with a properly fitted pvp ship?

ashkrik23

There are 100s if not thousands of foundry missions you may enjoy. I recommend doing some research and checking them out.

snoggymack22

For me ...

Are you a master on ground like that in space? Ages ago. Even have a character built for ground first, space second.

Have you tried the battle channels yet? Yup.

Beat no win scenario? Yup.

Foundry missions can be deliciously trekkie. They can, but finding the good ones is hard. And the rest of them are subpar.

Dabbled with a properly fitted pvp ship? Yup. Though not in quite some time. However, they haven't changed any of the maps. So winning a PvP match in 2011 and 2012 is pretty much the same as today.

lordagamemnonb5

xparr15 wrote: »

I hate to say it but devs are making exactly what players demanded. People asked for bug fixes, and revamps and that's exactly what we're getting.

You must be playing a different game from the rest of us.

jonsills

sopwithsnipe wrote: »

OP, if you are bored take a break for a while. Play something completely different for a few months. Recharge your batteries, and when you come back you can look forward to discovering whatever changes were made while you were gone.

Quoted for truth. Even a gourmet eating the finest meal has to clease his palate between courses.

There are lots of games to play out there - even more if you go retro. Right now, I'm taking a break from my first love, CO, and playing STO lightly - and playing Minecraft with my son, and kicking up the ol' classic XBox for some KotOR action, and the PS2 for Star Trek: Shattered Universe (so I also get some George Takei voiceover in my Trek!). I'll put the tights back on in Millennium City eventually; my toons will wait for me. And all my ships in STO will hold station at their current locations until I want them again. No big deal.

Go forth. Cleanse your palate. Find your excitement again. We'll be here when you're ready.

giotariz

try PvP. It's fun.

snoggymack22

giotariz wrote: »

try PvP. It's fun.

It's broken and largely ignored by the development team for well over 2 years.

cmdrscarlet

Good gracious, why keep doing something that is not fun?!

giotariz

snoggymack22 wrote: »

It's broken and largely ignored by the development team for well over 2 years.

Yeah, it's ignored, but not broken. Ever tried it? Every ship i fly i can do well in PvP with it. cant see any broken-ness in it.

Ever tried it?

snoggymack22

giotariz wrote: »

Ever tried it?

Yes, I have indeed tried PvP. You'd be amazed at how much of this game I've tried over the 4 years I've played it.

giotariz

snoggymack22 wrote: »

Yes, I have indeed tried PvP. You'd be amazed at how much of this game I've tried over the 4 years I've played it.

I've been playing since f2p only, at one point i was getting bored of this game, too repetitive balh blah blah, then i discovered PvP. Today, i'm still bored when it comes to pve, crafting etc, but it's PvP that keeps me playing.

(and my personal kdf fleet i'm getting to t1 base :P)

snoggymack22

sopwithsnipe wrote: »

It's also ignored by most of the player base. :P

Touche. You have got me there.



I gave it a try. I played it a lot a long time ago. Since then I've not really found it to be much different and it's just not that interesting to me.

Which is fine.

Maybe if they did some kind of revamp with it, I'd have been more interested in it. But they never got around to that. They had things to do, like crafting's fourth revamp, and ESD's second makeover.

Priorities and what not.

They're the professionals, so, I should trust them right?

giotariz

sopwithsnipe wrote: »

It's also ignored by most of the player base. :P

only because most of the playerbase only has skills to shoot mindless non moving npc.

rinkster

giotariz wrote: »

only because most of the playerbase only has skills to shoot mindless non moving npc.

Problem there isn't the players.

Problem is no match making system, pitting seasoned veterans against callow newcomers.

A decent match making system would allow an actual learning curve, as opposed to our current learning cliff.

jexsamx

This here is my problem. I want to play, and I can find things I like doing, but there's nothing keeping me logged in for more than an hour or so at a time. Sure there are reps to grind, but that's all it would be since there's nothing in them I want. I've played all of the story content for all three factions, ground out almost everything I want on almost every toon, and played what content I do enjoy almost to death.

It's just part of my cycle, though. I get interested, play a lot, then as the boredom sets back in, I go to other games. I don't imagine I'll play heavily again until X2 drops. Still, I'll pop in from time to time to make a little dil or see what new C-Store stuff crops up occasionally.

ghyudt

sopwithsnipe wrote: »

OP, if you are bored take a break for a while. Play something completely different for a few months. Recharge your batteries, and when you come back you can look forward to discovering whatever changes were made while you were gone.

This is the exactly what I do. I play BSGO and STO. When I get tired of 1, I go to the other for a few months, and come back and see what's new. There's an added benefit with STO. I got a lifetime membership. So I get a bunch of zen built up while I'm away.

lordagamemnonb5

giotariz wrote: »

only because most of the playerbase only has skills to shoot mindless non moving npc.

IMHO, the problem is no variation in builds.

If you want to excel in PvP, bring an escort with DHC and the assimilated borg set from the Omega rep, otherwise you are just gimping your team. Hell, bring a Jem'Hadar attacker and you'll be damned near invincible.

gurugeorge

agentkoval wrote: »

Can we get a new game, or at least an expansion where it is fundamentally separate from this?

I second the suggestions to try out the Foundry (as it sounds like it's one thing you haven't tried yet). There's a ton of great suff there, although it takes a bit of getting used to who are good authors, who make things just as good as the devs do. I'd highly recommend a series called No Prize For Second Contact - that right there is the essence of TNG, and you'll feel like you're playing a Star Trek game again.

Not all the stuff that's top listed in the Foundry is good, as I say, it takes a while to get a feel for which authors will suit you, and you will encounter some duds, but it's worth spending a bit of time on, to get the hang of it.

But after that (which will keep you occupied for a month or so), then yeah, it will be back to square one

mustrumridcully0

I was bored by the game, too, at some point. I picked up other games and played those. Several seasons and Legacy of Romulus happened in that time.

But now I am back, not really bored yet, despite "grinding" various reputations. There will probably be a point where I am bored again and do something else again.

Don't feel forced to keep playing this game to prove your "loyality" or justify prior monetary investment or whatever. If you're bored, you're bored, no need to drag things out.

ravanche

The problem is the Locust Effect, a term Blizzard's devs coined. The Locust Effect is spending 6-9 months working on new end-game content, releasing it, and then all the end-game players consume it within 2-3 weeks and start clamoring for more. It isn't a viable development strategy to cater to /just/ the end-game players, the 'hardcore', the players that play 6+ hours a day, every day. So most games have started their development towards alternative systems, things to do other than just Shoot Manz, as well as replay value where making an alt and leveling that up is seen as "end-game". Things for everyone to be able to do, rather than the minority of end-game only players.

If you're bored, take a look back at how quickly you blazed through Romulus when it came out, or how long it took you to clear our Dyson, then Undine. If it was around 2-3 weeks or less, then perhaps a break from the game is in order. Perhaps look into alternative games that have more regular content updates towards your liking. Spread out your interest rather than focusing solely on a single game 24/7.