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generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
edited July 2014 in The Academy
Well Hello everyone,

I generally don't come around the Academy Section often, since I've been here a couple of years... now I'd like as the TOP DPS players or PVP players what they think of this build, it is the current build I am using and it generally gives me around 5,000 to 6,000 DPS on PvE and about 3,000 to 4,000 DPS on pvp...


Now is my build/skills good or should I change something???

Note: Once my Fleet Hits Tier 5 I'll be trowing out my Disruptors for some Elite Phasers and same will go for the Tac consoles so they benefit the Phaser Build... but as for now I am using that... and the Newly Updated Aegis Set, I used to use the Solane complete set untill I got the warp core from fleet :)


Link to Build: http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=comrademoco_0
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Soo much wrong in your build man. If I have time after I get home from work I'll redo a pvp build and a pve build for you. As it stands...it's like you want a pvp/pve build(already a bad idea) and then split that already fragmented build into 2 more separate ideas.

    Do you want a pve dps build or a pvp build?
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited July 2014
    dahminus wrote: »
    Do you want a pve dps build or a pvp build?
    They way I see the game, is that if you are able to do a good build in pvp, then pve wont mater, since dps and what not is reduced in pvp... so I'd like a real good pvp build...
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=corvettepvp_0

    Doffs are in the notes

    Any questions, fire them off

    Looks rather fun, but be prepared to get the flip our of dodge when focus fire, that ship is pretty squishy...as you know

    Good luck and happy hunting
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    generalmoco wrote: »
    They way I see the game, is that if you are able to do a good build in pvp, then pve wont mater, since dps and what not is reduced in pvp... so I'd like a real good pvp build...

    that ship is not good for pvp... too fragile, bad boffs layout. To play pvp, BO3 high crtd and crth actually are a "must have" for an escort and you can't have them without sacrifing survivaibility

    Actually the best escort to play pvp are the new xindi, the (fleet) patrol escort refit or the jhas.... the corvet has no chances against them... a better turn rate is not enough.
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    Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited July 2014
    eurialo wrote: »
    that ship is not good for pvp... too fragile, bad boffs layout. To play pvp, BO3 high crtd and crth actually are a "must have" for an escort and you can't have them without sacrifing survivaibility


    Actually with the ship I have the *Corvette* I have around 55% CrtC and 115% CrtS, and I have a diff BOff that has BO3...
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    generalmoco wrote: »
    Actually with the ship I have the *Corvette* I have around 55% CrtC and 115% CrtS, and I have a diff BOff that has BO3...

    55% crit chance? Damn...

    You try my build at all?
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    generalmoco wrote: »
    Actually with the ship I have the *Corvette* I have around 55% CrtC and 115% CrtS, and I have a diff BOff that has BO3...

    The build you posted is far away that values... and do not has bo3. How did you check that values?

    P.s.
    For pve, a decent dps is about 10k, 20-30k with a good escort are possible
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
  • tcostiktcostik Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    generalmoco wrote: »
    Actually with the ship I have the *Corvette* I have around 55% CrtC and 115% CrtS, and I have a diff BOff that has BO3...


    How did you check these numbers? After checking your build, I don't see how you can have even close to that. Heck, my Romulan with all Sup. Op crew doesn't come close to that.
  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited July 2014
    tcostik wrote: »
    How did you check these numbers? After checking your build, I don't see how you can have even close to that. Heck, my Romulan with all Sup. Op crew doesn't come close to that.
    I use ACT to track all my DPS, DMG. healing and what not... now that 55% CritC and 115% CritS comes from with in the captains skills, and the fully buffed Corvette, in a different build from the one I posted/linked above..

    And yes the current build I post does not have the values I am referring, that is just the current build I am using...

    And I can get you a picture if you'll like proof of the values... granted the values will be off by a small amount but trust me they do come that high...
  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited July 2014
    dahminus wrote: »
    55% crit chance? Damn...

    You try my build at all?
    I have not had a chance to log in the game and try the build... how ever it is going to take a me a while, to get the necessary Dilithium to buy the respec... and getting the consoles and gear... The only thing I noticed tho, is that why would I change from Nuets to RCS, my Turn rate is by far to fast as it is right now... I know that Turn Rate is PvP is a priority, but I'm iffy about it... Can you explain?
  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    generalmoco wrote: »
    I use ACT to track all my DPS, DMG. healing and what not... now that 55% CritC and 115% CritS comes from with in the captains skills, and the fully buffed Corvette, in a different build from the one I posted/linked above..

    And yes the current build I post does not have the values I am referring, that is just the current build I am using...

    And I can get you a picture if you'll like proof of the values... granted the values will be off by a small amount but trust me they do come that high...

    I do not need proofs... if we take count about the buffs a tactical captain can have, then yes... with an appropriate build and items that values are possible and you can also have better numbers... but absolutely not with the build you posted. However if you had that values why you changed your build with the one you posted?

    and to be onest, IMHO the build posted by dahminus is not so good.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited July 2014
    eurialo wrote: »
    However if you had that values why you changed your build with the one you posted?


    The question here is, Why not...

    I am the kind of guy that likes to change his build around to test out different builds...

    But yes, this build was just to see if anyone (high dps people) think about it... of course it's going to change..

    and in regards to the the build, dahminus posted, of course I'll give it a try...

    however if it proofs better I'll keep it, if it doesn't well we'll see about another one..


    btw thanks for the feedback guys.. :)
  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    generalmoco wrote: »
    The question here is, Why not...

    The point is that the build you posted seems to me worst enough to avoid it before trying...

    But yes, this build was just to see if anyone (high dps people) think about it... of course it's going to change..

    and in regards to the the build, dahminus posted, of course I'll give it a try...

    however if it proofs better I'll keep it, if it doesn't well we'll see about another one..


    btw thanks for the feedback guys.. :)

    As said before, actually a escort for pvp must maximize its spike damage, crth and crtd... I tried to develop s build for your ship but the boffs layout do not help and my opinion is that the corvet is not good at all for pvp.

    However, good luck
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
  • ussboleynussboleyn Member Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Got my Romulan the Risian Vette,

    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=greenmachine_0

    3x Tech (A2B)
    1x AMS (A2D)
    2x EWO (BO)

    It's quite a lot of fun, very fast and packs a punch.
    ≡/\≡
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    eurialo wrote: »
    The point is that the build you posted seems to me worst enough to avoid it before trying...



    As said before, actually a escort for pvp must maximize its spike damage, crth and crtd... I tried to develop s build for your ship but the boffs layout do not help and my opinion is that the corvet is not good at all for pvp.

    However, good luck

    So...mind posting that build? Curious how it differs from mine
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Interesting build but, true DPS is better if you can get have level. I use F-AP-DHC-45 with F-AP-C-180. I also use AP-DB. Need beams in the back one omi-directional just not enough. This is quick ship cannons need to line-of-site if the 45 ARC are use. The 180 and 360 ARC cannons are okay but the DPS not that high to me. Add some high DPS torpedo to the mix.
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    Time will only tell!
  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    dahminus wrote: »
    So...mind posting that build? Curious how it differs from mine

    first of all, I always maximize crth and crtd, both using skill and items... the only difference is that for pvp I use [acc]x2 [ctd] weapons (and bo3), instead for pve [crtd]x3 weapons, (dhc and csv only). In your build crth and ctd are not maximized...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    eurialo wrote: »
    first of all, I always maximize crth and crtd, both using skill and items... the only difference is that for pvp I use [acc]x2 [ctd] weapons (and bo3), instead for pve [crtd]x3 weapons, (dhc and csv only). In your build crth and ctd are not maximized...

    Umm...could you elaborate?

    Where exactly can I fit more crith/critd?

    Keep in mind that this is a pvp build which is what the OP wanted...
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Not necessarily the best builds, just examples of what I tried to explain. Look at the consoles and skills. Read notes for doffs.

    for pve: http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=jppvejhas_0

    for pvp: http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=jppvpjhas_0
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    eurialo wrote: »
    Not necessarily the best builds, just examples of what I tried to explain. Look at the consoles and skills. Read notes for doffs.

    for pve: http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=jppvejhas_0

    for pvp: http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=jppvpjhas_0

    ...that isn't the right ship...

    OP has a corvette....

    My issue without build is the choice of deflector and engine. But back on topic...

    We are talking about a pvp corvette....how you "eurialo" build the ship and make it better then the build I gave
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    As said before, the builds I posted were just examples about how to maximize crth and crtd. About the corvet, I think you can only use an atb build:

    EPtE1, AtB1, ET3
    EPtS1, AtB1
    ST1
    TT1, CRF1, BO3, APO3
    TT1, APB1

    You can use the same weapons, and items I used on my pvp build except you have only 4 tactical consoles... this let you use one more netronium alloy (+turn or hullrep) or improve your shield with one from the embassy or you can use one more universal console to increase crth and/or crtd. If you need more resistance you can change deflector and use the maco one. Only the warpcore I used on the jhas is not the most appropriate because of the atb build. Just look for one to improve shield or engine power...
    Skill: the same of my pvp build

    Doffs: 3 purple technicians, one to remove debuffs on use of eptx (sorry I do not remember the name). Uou can choose what you prefer as your 5th and 6th doffs
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So the missing crith/critd I was missing was just the engineering consoles?

    Ok...

    Accx2/critdx1 isn't available for fleet disruptors so...moving on

    So what made my build "bad" was that it wasn't aux2bat?

    I'm going to just move on now...

    I think a single a2b would be fun if I went that route
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited July 2014
    edalgo wrote: »
    I think the OP is looking at his CrtH after his buffs are active, not before.

    Yes, I am, and when not fully buffed CrtC is 20something% and CrtS is set to 75something%

    Anyway...

    Corvette isn't the only ship I have. I have plenty more, but it was just a build I wanted to test out and see what people thought of it.... :)
  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    dahminus wrote: »
    So the missing crith/critd I was missing was just the engineering consoles?

    Ok...

    Accx2/critdx1 isn't available for fleet disruptors so...moving on

    So what made my build "bad" was that it wasn't aux2bat?

    I'm going to just move on now...

    I think a single a2b would be fun if I went that route




    You missed a lot of console to boost damage, you missed several skill's optimization (you do not need so much point spent on energy levels is you use the plasmonich leach and AtB),fleet weapons not always are a good idea if you play pvp and a single AtB has 40s cd... too much when you have a single CRF, a single BO, a single APO, a single APD... moreover with 2xAtB you do not need 2xST (a single one is enough)...



    generalmoco wrote: »

    Yes, I am, and when not fully buffed CrtC is 20something% and CrtS is set to 75something%

    you can do better... with my build you should have about 30% crth and 100-108% crtd (without any buff). To this numbers you have to add boosts from weapons CrtD, accurancy (if you have more accurancy than your opponent's defence) and boost to attack patterns because of the romulan engine.

    p.s.
    Still I think the corvet has not a good boff layout for pvp, for example in my build you can't have HE and ST at the same time... except you sacrifice the double AtB... but as said before, then you have difficult with some ability CD.
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    Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
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