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[PvP Dmg] mod?

ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
edited July 2014 in PvP Gameplay
Looking at some of the new weapons and see this [PvP Dmg] mod. What the heck is this then?

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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited July 2014
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Never did find an answer while it was on Tribble, just what the two PvP mods actually do...
  • tpalelenatpalelena Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    They generate more rage and cries of nerf, and point out that their tooltip is missing.
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  • semodo1semodo1 Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    [PvP Dmg] provides 3% (bonus, extra) damage - it's contained in "info" but evidently missing from the tooltip.
    @semodo
  • blessedladyboyblessedladyboy Member Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm assuming it doesn't stack right? They come with crit chance or sev in addition to the damage, that times 8 can't be a thing... Right?
  • aldo1rainealdo1raine Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I miss the 10x damage plasma disruptor hybrids.....the golden age of STO
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2014
    [PvP Dmg] - More worthless than the regular [Dmg] mod.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2014
    aldo1raine wrote: »
    I miss the 10x damage plasma disruptor hybrids.....the golden age of STO

    You can get plasma disruptor hybrids with crafting. Just get a plasma with the [Pen] modifier. Voila!
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    [PvP Res] +5 All Damage Bonus Resistance Rating
    [PvP Dmg] +3% All Damage

    Now here's the problem, imho...those mods are...not weapon mods. They're both bonus mods...they're like gear mods. Thing is, equipping either does not change any stats anywhere.

    So just what exactly do they do? There's been no info from the devs on this, and they really need to speak up on what these mods are.

    Are we looking at mods that can stack? So it would be possible to stack multiple weapons with the [PvP Dmg] mod for more than just the +3%? +6%? +9%? +12? Etc, etc, etc...the same for the [PvP Res] mod? +10 DBRR? +15 DBRR? Keeping in mind that a +X% All Damage is a Bonus boost rather than a Strength boost and that DBRR should not be confused with DRR - (check out rbaker82's post for the brainmelting breakdown).

    And then, if so, where exactly do these stats show? I went to Ker'rat, and there was nothing. Will the stats show on an actual "PvP" map? Do I need to copy a toon on a second account over to Tribble so I can do a 1v1 challenge to get on a "PvP" map to see the boosts in play? Do they not show up at all that we can - and - rather they are behind the scenes calculations that take place while fighting other players?

    For something potentially as major as this...now is not the time for Cryptic to be so cryptic.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    lucho80 wrote: »
    You can get plasma disruptor hybrids with crafting. Just get a plasma with the [Pen] modifier. Voila!

    Pen is actually an inline adjustment that ignores damage resistance rather than something that places a damage resistance debuff on the target.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    [PvP Res] +5 All Damage Bonus Resistance Rating
    [PvP Dmg] +3% All Damage

    Now here's the problem, imho...those mods are...not weapon mods. They're both bonus mods...they're like gear mods. Thing is, equipping either does not change any stats anywhere.

    So just what exactly do they do? There's been no info from the devs on this, and they really need to speak up on what these mods are.

    Are we looking at mods that can stack? So it would be possible to stack multiple weapons with the [PvP Dmg] mod for more than just the +3%? +6%? +9%? +12? Etc, etc, etc...the same for the [PvP Res] mod? +10 DBRR? +15 DBRR? Keeping in mind that a +X% All Damage is a Bonus boost rather than a Strength boost and that DBRR should not be confused with DRR - (check out rbaker82's post for the brainmelting breakdown).

    And then, if so, where exactly do these stats show? I went to Ker'rat, and there was nothing. Will the stats show on an actual "PvP" map? Do I need to copy a toon on a second account over to Tribble so I can do a 1v1 challenge to get on a "PvP" map to see the boosts in play? Do they not show up at all that we can - and - rather they are behind the scenes calculations that take place while fighting other players?

    For something potentially as major as this...now is not the time for Cryptic to be so cryptic.

    Hrmmm, was wondering if anybody had ever seen their tooltips change because of either of the PvP mods...does it actually show in an arena or CnH? Does it simply not appear - hidden change that takes place behind the scenes? Does it even do that?
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Anybody had a chance to check this out? Perhaps seen a dev comment somewhere on it?
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    The [Thrust] mod doesn't change any stats when equipped, either. Do these only work while the weapon is firing? Do they even work at all? Who knows
  • thisslerthissler Member Posts: 2,055 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Hrmmm, was wondering if anybody had ever seen their tooltips change because of either of the PvP mods...does it actually show in an arena or CnH? Does it simply not appear - hidden change that takes place behind the scenes? Does it even do that?

    Reminds me of flanking and the awful way that was implemented.

    Anyway it seems like this will be calculated when the calculations that are dependant on the target are being made. For instance in the way that the damage check is made for the Assimilated Tractor beam, 'has the target been hit by a KCB in the past x seconds? if yes X4 damage' , that sort of thing.

    I hope I've confused you. Cheers.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    thissler wrote: »
    Reminds me of flanking and the awful way that was implemented.

    Anyway it seems like this will be calculated when the calculations that are dependant on the target are being made. For instance in the way that the damage check is made for the Assimilated Tractor beam, 'has the target been hit by a KCB in the past x seconds? if yes X4 damage' , that sort of thing.

    I hope I've confused you. Cheers.

    But notice they're "gear mods"...so it raises the question of stacking, eh? 8x [PvP Dmg] for +18% All Damage? 8x [PvP Res] for +40 All Damage Bonus Resistance Rating?

    All sorts of fun questions!!!
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Think it would be a case of dropping a line out to Hawk or Bort to try to get an answer on this?
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Think it would be a case of dropping a line out to Hawk or Bort to try to get an answer on this?

    these mods are a big reason why this is season 9.3, not 9.5. id bet there is exactly 0 code behind these mods what so ever at this point, and MAYBE, these might eventually get filled out, and do something.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    these mods are a big reason why this is season 9.3, not 9.5. id bet there is exactly 0 code behind these mods what so ever at this point, and MAYBE, these might eventually get filled out, and do something.

    Meh, it just feels there were one to four blogs that were missing for the S9.5 drop...
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