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puttenham
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yes, dare i say that dual deflectors are a no go. its only been how long since they said we were going to have them.. lol..
they were able to poorly scrap together a mediocre crafting system, ruin doffing and release them well before they are ready to be released.... but dual deflectors that have been being worked on since a little before the 4th anniversary, and already exist on one ship in game couldn't be finished? /facepalm cryptic, /facepalm...
they were able to poorly scrap together a mediocre crafting system, ruin doffing and release them well before they are ready to be released.... but dual deflectors that have been being worked on since a little before the 4th anniversary, and already exist on one ship in game couldn't be finished? /facepalm cryptic, /facepalm...
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Defending The Galaxy By Breaking One Starfleet Regulation After The Next.
And how exactly does this make this thread any different from 99% of the others? Just because something has been discussed multiple times before doesn't mean everybody had a chance to express their opinion.
except a lot of people were thinking they would be in 9.5, which the patch notes clearly denote it is not.. i am more or less discussing why it is being passed up on yet another patch....
and no, its not being beaten like a dead horse as of yet.. the t5 connie threads are though, the dual deflector threads are but a baby in the light of half the other long time discussions..
i guess in the future, instead of discussing things that cryptic should be getting done, well just be silent about them and let them continue to get away with being lazy... i want to play "your" version of sto, which would consist of a black backdrop, a bunch of ships that cant do anything, and no where to go... good luck on that..
especially since if i comment in one of the past threads, ill get yelled at for necroing a dead thread.. you cant win with the fan boys, or the elitest jerks that seem to pray on these forums. " oh that's been discussed, oh, you spelled that wrong, oh, you should never express your opinion of a game you spent money in". they shun you one way or the other..
You must choose wisely.
the point im putting across is they have had more development time (if we go by what the devs are saying about them) than any other aspect of the game.. they should be done right by now.. lol..
usually they develop things like this from season to season, dual deflectors has now had slightly more than two seasons and an anniversary event worth of time..
basically, i don't think they have worked on them, and they tell us they are, but are not. or else they would have been out.. my problem is less with them not being out, and more with the web of deciept shadowing them.. don't tell us they are in development, and coming soon, and then not do anything with them.
and you are right, i want them done right, but jeeze, they better be utterly perfect with the amount of time they have taken with them lol..
They should be done right by now... according to which measure of time?
Soon is a highly subjective and variable perception of time.
The universe has been around for 13.8 billion years. Christopher Columbus arrived in the Americas one second before midnight on the last day of our cosmic year.
The development time of STO does not take up a nano-second of the cosmic timeline.
/facepalm... not that i don't like you, i do get kicks from some of your stuff on here, but i generally avoid becoming apart of your convos, or try to not throw enough bate for you to join mine lol.. i like serious conversations, not playtime bibble babble. i view you iconian as the "upper class" troll here.. lol.. that's not a bad thing.. you generally try to make a point, while also getting a laugh, or getting a reaction from someone, in a fun and respectfull manner usually. hehehe.. whats even better, is i knew my title would at the very least get you to look... my own fault.. hahaha..
ill talk to someone who wants to be real about this.. i mean sure, we could argue about how time is realative and blah blah blah.. but as long term sto players, we both know better..
yes, time is subjective, but, within cryptic and sto, they have created patterns and trends.. those patterns and trends leave us with a good view of what is a long time, and what isn't..
what im saying, is for something that is already ingame on one ship, was supposably being worked out before the release of the anniversary event, that not being released by now shows an excessive amount of time for said feature. im not trying to say i know cryptics schedule to the T. but, given past/present production rate of similier material, it is odd that it is still not in the game.. and given their lack of quality assurance, and wanting things to be perfect, it is a far cry to say they are trying to get it perfect.. (season 9.5 is a prime example).
i personally think they are sandbagging the community, trying to make the expansion seem a little beefier than it is and holding off on things like this till then.. (which sucks since they have been promoting it for so long).
It depends on what it is. The Romulans were a few years in the making. Depending on when you wanted to start counting, you could make the case that Zink kicked it off with the "What playable faction should be next?" poll in early 2010.
The Andorian escorts also took a very long time to get into the game, as did the Vesta. Years, even. When other ships have not taken nearly as long to implement.
The problem with that is that there is no similar material to compare secondary deflectors to. Warp cores/Singularity cores were sent to all ships in their entirety, not just one particular kind of ship.
Cruiser commands? They aren't even a device or piece of equipment. There is no procedural generation for cruiser command gear.
I think that is the main issue... something like secondary deflectors have never been done before, so it's hard to compare their development time to something else as having taken a longer or shorter period of time.
And considering the Dyson Secondary Deflector's capabilities, the width and breadth of what Secondary Deflectors can do is far more robust than Warp/Singularity Cores, and will have their own unique consequences to them.
I won't disagree I think we could use an update on how that progress is coming.
Touche.
see now theres the type of response i like.. lol.. someone gets a star today.. lol..
it is what it is.. the vesta took for ever because of licensing issues and the legal team taking forever.. even though the artist said yes, they still have to play the long drawn out game of sign here, sign there, and that doesn't happen quickly...
the andorian ship did take forever, but.. in all intent and purposes, it was never propped up as being the next thing.. or that it was even in production. it was just stahl and devs saying they would like to do it..
im just going to say that since romulans were implemented as a fraction, and not as their own stand alone faction (they felt very rushed). that the romulans were started no more than a year before they were released (realistically looking at maybe 8 months of development on them, and creating a faction is not the same as implementing a secondary deflector)
i wouldn't be so uppity about the deflectors is they hadn't said "very soon all science ships will have this". they even made everyone believe it was coming in season 8 with the wording they used on how they wanted to implement it..
they have showed images of the deflectors all worked out and what not, and said it was just a few things they had to work out.. its just silly to me that they keep getting stuff nearly done, and then put it back on the bench because something else comes up.. im the type of guy that i finish what i start, then move on to the next project.. especially if i have made as large a spectacle about it as cryptic did about these dual deflectors.. but this is also typical cryptic fashion.. they have not and will not learn....
as far as it taking less or more time because it hasn't been done.. well, its on a ship as we speak.. on both the factions and the fraction. if they didn't know how to make it work, it wouldn't be on that ship.. which is far more complex than the other science ships in game due to it having dual roles, and a changing boff layout, and arguably one of the stronger sci ships..
i could see your point had they put it on a lesser ship and were worried how it would effect stronger ships, but they already went balls to the wall with it, its backpeddleing at this point..
it is what it is. for every point i can make, you or someone can make a counter point, and i can argue that..
at the end of the day, it is just good old fashioned cryptic laziness.. which has been a factor in the development of this game since day one.. (being someone who beta tested, then watched the game be launched with almost every single bug myself and the community complained about, and being that they tribble test content, and release it with almost every bug reported, there is no other way to explain it..)