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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm not a Cryptic employee, I'll never be one and I'm proud! :D
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I don't consider myself a Cryptic employee. I am just content.
    Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
  • bareelbareel Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Are you one of the factory/farm workers? Do you farm Dilithium so that Cryptic has a readily available supply that feeds ZEN sales?

    Yup, although I am ok with this portion of the arrangement as all parties involved in the activity have incentive. I get free stuff for my game by playing the game, others get to bypass playing the game to play the game (I...don't understand but I am ok with it), and Cryptic gets significantly more revenue.
    Are you an educator? Do you update STOwiki, provide information on another site or forum, answer questions on the forums here, etc, etc, etc - since so little information is provided by Cryptic themselves?

    Formerly yes, now not so much. Legacy of Romulas launch was my breaking point. I view every single aspect of the game as an opportunity for the game to teach the player about itself and LoR had so many golden opportunities that were not utilized at all in it's design. This lead to players getting frustrated with the seemingly difficult content and future nerfs to said content.

    Every single part of the game should be viewed from a tutorial PoV. Nothing in STO is. Instead they let default ship layouts be determined by RNG. Don't bother putting sensible abilities on handcrafted Boffs. Let the players fly ships with handcrafted Boff abilities and terribad weapon layouts/boff ability selection.

    And some wonder why so many players have a difficult time designing a competent ship build.

    And the list can go on and on...

    Do you ever sit and wonder at times just how much the playerbase is actually responsible for doing things one might expect needing to be done with some form of hobbyist project but not with a game run by a professional game company?

    Are you getting a little tired of that...?

    Yup. And I don't think I'm the only one. (sarcasm) But no need to fret, that one Cryptic guy was on a Podcast recently with some great info about this subject. The podcast where one of the hosts admitted to being kinda burned out on the STO grind with no story. Anyway, that Cryptic guy wants to really push forward community efforts on making video tutorials and what not to solve many of these problems! On that note, wonder if they ever checked Steam which has some really good high quality guide videos very few people bother to watch. Filthy casual players with their sense of entitlement thinking they shouldn't need to watch tutorial videos to learn the game mechanics on even a basic level probably won't even bother to watch anything. (/sarcasm).
    Go play EVE or SWTOR and telll me cryptic's business model is bad. This game is one of the best FTP models out there.

    One often missed aspect of a FTP model is most do not think about the repercussions of what the developer doesn't charge for will have on future development priorities.

    Cryptic doesn't get paid to release story content. Not directly anyway. So Cryptic doesn't release much story content and tends to focus on the creation of new shineys. Because that is how they get paid.

    I really wonder how many players would actually pay say a dollar for an FE episode. Once every other week. And how different STO would be today if that was the F2P model they went with.
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    puttenham wrote: »

    also, cryptics free to play model "used" to be awesome.. but ever since they pulled their stunt with the 4th year anniversary, it has started to go down hill. its not the same system it once was. which is a shame, cause it "was" the best ftp model out there.

    What's different about it? The 4th anniversary was the same scheme as the 3rd anniversary (remember, we had to do the same present grind for the Ambassador class) but with the added option to pay instead of play (which we first saw applied in this exact way during last year's summer event.)
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  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I just play the damned game.


    'Nuff said.
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    What's different about it? The 4th anniversary was the same scheme as the 3rd anniversary (remember, we had to do the same present grind for the Ambassador class) but with the added option to pay instead of play (which we first saw applied in this exact way during last year's summer event.)

    Sorry but that's a nope.

    The horrible party game was present, but the ship was awarded for doing that nifty alternate, Tholian controlled universe mission.
  • darin010darin010 Member Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I think I am the guy that owns the office next door to Cryptic's whos sitting at his desk saying to him self Well if they don't start listening to there players I could totally expand my copy room, put in a new bath room... maybe even put a little F2P start up in what's left over. Maybe even a coffee Bar!

    Honestly for the people who are very high level I am talking more then 4 toons all at 50 and who has a fleet of fleet ships for everyone. There is nothing left to do but fleet building and the grinds are so long and the dilith needs are so much its just more of a bother then any fun. Even the time to have fun aka Summer is another endless grind for something that most people will delete in a few weeks to make room for something else.

    STO was a good game even before it went F2P and it was a good game for a while. But as it stands and as you are making it people are getting tired, bored, fed up, and losing interest. You dumb things down so much that the players are begging you to stop. People who watch Star Trek are by no means stupid and people that play this game are by no means stupid but yet you treat us like we can't understand the complex matters of how to go in and out of a map.

    So yeah I am the guy waiting at his desk to expand my potty room in the office you are reading this in.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    darin010 wrote: »
    I think I am the guy that owns the office next door to Cryptic's whos sitting at his desk saying to him self Well if they don't start listening to there players I could totally expand my copy room, put in a new bath room... maybe even put a little F2P start up in what's left over. Maybe even a coffee Bar!
    Don't get your hopes up on the coffee bar just yet. Players have asked for a crafting system that is worth doing that produces useful stuff for a long time, and it's probably going online tomorrow!

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  • nikkojtnikkojt Member Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Content creator. I provide a target for other people in PvP so they can get their scores up, and I make Foundry missions.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    nikkojt wrote: »
    Content creator. I provide a target for other people in PvP so they can get their scores up, and I make Foundry missions.

    Heh, had to chuckle at the content creator aspect for PvP. I tend to fly around going wheee and giving folks the opportunity to explore different ways to make me explode. Oh wait, did I just add Exploration to the list there? :D
  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    rinkster wrote: »
    Sorry but that's a nope.

    The horrible party game was present, but the ship was awarded for doing that nifty alternate, Tholian controlled universe mission.

    Huh, you're right. I guess I was just thrown off by how much I still ground that little nothing anyway. Still, the last summer event worked in the same way as the 4th anniversary so there's not much to be said except them dodging an expectation (the usual business model you could just say was extended a bit.)
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  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Go play EVE or SWTOR and telll me cryptic's business model is bad. This game is one of the best FTP models out there.

    Thats right....Keep drinking the kool-aid. Muahahahahahaha
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Thats right....Keep drinking the kool-aid. Muahahahahahaha
    That's right, keep making silly comments from conspiracy-theorist websites. That way, you can pretend to be clever without ever having to explain what you mean and risk having your preconceptions challenged.
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  • bareelbareel Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    That's right, keep making silly comments from conspiracy-theorist websites. That way, you can pretend to be clever without ever having to explain what you mean and risk having your preconceptions challenged.

    Perhaps some don't like F2P to begin with? Not to mention many hail the STO F2P model as the best because you can earn everything in game without paying yet in EVE you can earn, in game, the ability to pay for your sub. And that model doesn't have the drawbacks of the STO model where the developer has to micromanage the in game economic model to maximize revenue nor do they need to worry about how the new content they develop can be directly monetized. They merely need to keep players interested in the game in EVE, not finding new ways to convince them to gamble.

    I'll grant you the STO model was pretty good at F2P launch. Mainly because of how bad the competition's models were. F2P has come a long way since then.

    Dota 2, Marvel Heroes, Path of Exile, LotRo, and I could go on. Some is a matter of perspective though. Path of Exile for example in my eyes has a flawed model because it does not monetize enough things leading to less revenue to be available to increase development speed.
  • ussinterceptussintercept Member Posts: 627 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    That's right, keep making silly comments from conspiracy-theorist websites. That way, you can pretend to be clever without ever having to explain what you mean and risk having your preconceptions challenged.

    Yes cause I have to answer to those challenges. Or else.
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm just here to play the game. I play the parts I like and studiously ignore the parts I don't.

    It is a game. That is all it is. It is what it is.

    It isn't going to cure cancer or solve world hunger or put an end to war or any of those other things people around here seem to routinely expect.

    I cannot find enlightenment or inner peace or financial security or regrow my hair by playing STO.

    Star Trek is not a religion nor is it a lifestyle choice. Games based upon it are not these things either. I like STO, probably far more than is healthy. But at the end of the day, I fail to see the reason why so many get themselves so worked up over it in public.

    Where were these people when TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT were canceled? If there was even a tenth of the furor raised over the tiniest things around here displayed back then, we might very well have gotten that next season or two of Enterprise. Which was allegedly about the Earth-Romulan War. Something I was actually looking forward to quite a bit.

    I play STO because it is an enjoyable stress relief from the cares and problems of my Real Life. My job in adult education is very demanding, always different every day, and not something everyone can do. The rewards can be very satisfying professionally and personally. But the pressures are sometimes too high a price to pay.

    I initially came to these forums to share some quality time and a laugh or two with people who like to game online and like Star Trek as much as I do. Over the long months I have come to these forums, I see now I made a terrible mistake. I wrongly assumed the people here liked online gaming and Star Trek as much as I do. The vast majority seem only interested in complaining about everything and anything. Along with being as nasty as possible to each other as often as possible.

    I am ashamed to admit that on more than one occasion I have descended to the same level. But since I did so, I see no good reason to either deny it or avoid the consequences of doing so.

    Congrats, people. You have achieved something I didn't think was possible. You have made me embarrassed to admit I am a Star Trek fan or that I play STO.

    I suppose some will pile on now and quote me out of context in yet another attempt to score points or make their cronies laugh at my expense. I no longer care. This isn't an "I quit!" post for the game. But you can bet your sweet bippy it will be a very long time before I log in here again.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Where were these people when TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT were canceled?

    As far as VOY, DS9, and ENT...I was either out drinking in celebration or I was out drinking trying to pretend they didn't exist.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Where were these people when TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT were canceled? If there was even a tenth of the furor raised over the tiniest things around here displayed back then, we might very well have gotten that next season or two of Enterprise. Which was allegedly about the Earth-Romulan War. Something I was actually looking forward to quite a bit.

    TNG and DS9 both had a good run, and were concluded quite gracefully. There's a difference between being cancelled and being finished. TNG and DS9 were finished. You could argue Voyager was finished before getting to a proper conclusion of the story, but you can't argue Enterprise was flat-out cancelled.

    And when Enterprise was cancelled, I was saying "Good."

    My position on that toxic series has not changed over the years. I recognized it then as the death rattle of the franchise, I recognize it now as the death rattle of the franchise.
    I initially came to these forums to share some quality time and a laugh or two with people who like to game online and like Star Trek as much as I do. Over the long months I have come to these forums, I see now I made a terrible mistake. I wrongly assumed the people here liked online gaming and Star Trek as much as I do. The vast majority seem only interested in complaining about everything and anything. Along with being as nasty as possible to each other as often as possible.

    The internet does have its fair share of jerks.
    Congrats, people. You have achieved something I didn't think was possible. You have made me embarrassed to admit I am a Star Trek fan or that I play STO.

    I'm not ashamed to admit I'm a Star Trek fan, although I do make it a point to discern I'm not a Trekkie, and I'm not bridled by some kind of fanboy delusions over the franchise. I recognize its strong points and its weak points for what they are.

    I accept the franchise, the game STO, its playerbase, and its developers for who they are whether I like it or not. But that doesn't mean I approve, necessarily.

    And I will never stop criticising the franchise, the game, its playerbase, or the decisions of its developers due to the passion I have for the franchise and the game.

    I want things to be better than they currently are. I have no issues devoting my energy and brainpower to the STO forums in order to push for those changes, no matter how much of a lost cause they might seem.

    And if at least one person walks away from the STO forums a little smarter, a little wiser, or having their beliefs and understanding of reality disrupted as a result of something I said or posted -- then I will have not considered my time on the forums wasted.

    If I make at least one person smile or laugh as a result of a joke or snarky response, if someone smiles or laughs as a result of my signature -- then I feel some matter of vindication for having to roll up my sleeves and provide my perspective into the forums.

    I would feel satisfied.

    And considering the meaningful changes I've seen as a result of things I've pushed for, argued for, and in some cases argued against... I do feel satisfied. I have no regrets.
    I suppose some will pile on now and quote me out of context in yet another attempt to score points or make their cronies laugh at my expense. I no longer care. This isn't an "I quit!" post for the game. But you can bet your sweet bippy it will be a very long time before I log in here again.

    Self-fulfilling prophecies are quite awesome. The game is free-2-play, so the door is always open and the light is always on if you want to get your dose of the only surviving remnant of the non-JJ Abrams Star Trek franchise.
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  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm just here to play the game. I play the parts I like and studiously ignore the parts I don't.

    It is a game. That is all it is. It is what it is.

    It isn't going to cure cancer or solve world hunger or put an end to war or any of those other things people around here seem to routinely expect.

    I cannot find enlightenment or inner peace or financial security or regrow my hair by playing STO.

    Star Trek is not a religion nor is it a lifestyle choice. Games based upon it are not these things either. I like STO, probably far more than is healthy. But at the end of the day, I fail to see the reason why so many get themselves so worked up over it in public.

    Where were these people when TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT were canceled? If there was even a tenth of the furor raised over the tiniest things around here displayed back then, we might very well have gotten that next season or two of Enterprise. Which was allegedly about the Earth-Romulan War. Something I was actually looking forward to quite a bit.

    I play STO because it is an enjoyable stress relief from the cares and problems of my Real Life. My job in adult education is very demanding, always different every day, and not something everyone can do. The rewards can be very satisfying professionally and personally. But the pressures are sometimes too high a price to pay.

    I initially came to these forums to share some quality time and a laugh or two with people who like to game online and like Star Trek as much as I do. Over the long months I have come to these forums, I see now I made a terrible mistake. I wrongly assumed the people here liked online gaming and Star Trek as much as I do. The vast majority seem only interested in complaining about everything and anything. Along with being as nasty as possible to each other as often as possible.

    I am ashamed to admit that on more than one occasion I have descended to the same level. But since I did so, I see no good reason to either deny it or avoid the consequences of doing so.

    Congrats, people. You have achieved something I didn't think was possible. You have made me embarrassed to admit I am a Star Trek fan or that I play STO.

    I suppose some will pile on now and quote me out of context in yet another attempt to score points or make their cronies laugh at my expense. I no longer care. This isn't an "I quit!" post for the game. But you can bet your sweet bippy it will be a very long time before I log in here again.

    As someone pointed out to me elsewhere, STO caters to the MMO players and Trekkers, which can be the worst in terms of entitlement.

    And this is what we're seeing here: entitlement to the max. It's gotten worse since BranFlakes left and CaptainSmirk came in. They LOVED BranFlakes to the point where they treated him as some sort of... god? I dunno, but he was revered. Once BranFlakes left, everyone just turned feral.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm the guy who sits in a dark corner cubicle doing my work and narc'ing on all the lazy people blabbing away by the water cooler! Muhahahahaha! :mad:
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm an educator. I spend way more time on the Wiki than I really should. Including a project that will almost certainly never be complete: a list of all NPC contacts in the Foundry. Yeah.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,473 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I cannot find enlightenment or inner peace or financial security or regrow my hair by playing STO.
    Playing STO won't regrow my hair? Well, doggone it, why am I even bothering then??

    ;)
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  • bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Im the type of employee that would have secretly secured 51% of the shares to turn around and fire the lot of them for their lack of vision...yes im the emperor so what....the empire would have done better against the yuzzhan vong than the fledgling republic....

    ahem back on track yeah im that one...STO has way more potential than copy pasting and ignoring feedback with the basic...we did it our way get over it response.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm an educator. I spend way more time on the Wiki than I really should. Including a project that will almost certainly never be complete: a list of all NPC contacts in the Foundry. Yeah.

    Don't think the wiki folks get the kudos they deserve, like almost anything else - one mainly sees complaints about info that isn't quite right.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Don't think the wiki folks get the kudos they deserve, like almost anything else - one mainly sees complaints about info that isn't quite right.

    I'm guilty of that. But I'm also of the opinion that it's better to have no information than misinformation.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    And this is what we're seeing here: entitlement to the max. It's gotten worse since BranFlakes left and CaptainSmirk came in. They LOVED BranFlakes to the point where they treated him as some sort of... god? I dunno, but he was revered. Once BranFlakes left, everyone just turned feral.

    But he is a god. /Vorta
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    None of the options listed in the OP - I simply play the game and enjoy it for what it is right now.

    It doesn't matter whether I'm running a STF, contributing to my fleet or earning rep - I do it because I genuinely enjoy it.
    Laws of thermodynamics as applied to life: 0 - You must play the game. 1 - You can't win. 2 - You can't break even. 3 - You can't quit.
  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    At the request of the OP, this thread has been closed.
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