Seem a bit foolish to me that they do not have any c-store tier 5 raptors or any decent PVP ships period on the KDF side.
Count the number of Fed ships in the c-store then count the number of KDF?
Do you see a problem?
If not count them again. And again and so on.
Seriously you think they would at least want our money. Seems odd when greedy companies turn away paying customers.
Feds have more war ships than the KDF and no one thinks that is strange. They even have an escort carrier with a tactical commander? We have nothing like that. Only Tactical commanders are raiders, escorts and the odd destroyer. I don't count the Dyson because I think it is a bit of a joke.
You would think Klingons would have a tactical focus. And do not even get me started about PVP balance. Weak hulls, useless cloaks, and the list goes on.
Just venting. I know absolutely nothing will change.
I think any kdf player would welcome a tier 5 raptor an fleet counter part, I have been really get back to my kdf characters lately, I just started a new toon ( a deferi alien character ). Wish we had some good solid tier 5 c-store choices, not just mirror or lockbox/lobi ships.
And of all things KDF, the Escort line (Raptors, Destroyers) is by far the most neglected and worst aspect of the entire faction.
The BOPs have lost out to Power Creep but offer a style of play you'll never find anywhere.
The Carriers rock with the Vo'Quv holding things down since this game went live years ago.
If you like Cruiser play, our Battlecruisers and Flight Deck Cruisers are solid and perform well.
But the Raptors and Destroyers? Man... Ugh... Jeez. The Guramba is cool but has lost out to Power Creep and it's a Dead-End-Purchase. There is no Fleet Guramba to move into despite us begging for it since the fleet ship system came out. Gurambas used to be flown by a lot of KDF players, even in PVP. Not anymore. The rest of the Raptors and Destroyers have fared far worse than the Guramba.
Okay, well, maybe Raptors & Destroyers are tied for worst alongside our Uniform options.
Perhaps it is my delusional state of mind speaking, but I'm surprised we didn't even just get a copypasta job with a Qin Refit and Fleet Qin Refit to toss us a bone sort of thing...
Sadly, to get a top-notch KDF escort you're into the premium territory of the Destroyers - the Pegh'qu and Krenn.
The Pegh'qu is IMO the only really solid endgame Raptor, with a potent combination of flexible BOff seating, battle cloak and a genuinely useful unique console (+30 ACC is nothing to sniff at...). You can even get a fleet variant. Unfortunately, the only way to get one is an LTS.
The irony is that the ships which best fit the Raptor "concept" - fast but fragile flying guns - in both looks and gameplay are the Andorian escorts. Which is why I'm currently building up a Fed-Klingon captain and crew to fly one; if you can't beat 'em, join 'em .
I would just love to see some T5 raptors. For one I love material 3 and can't use it on any of the endgame raptors atm. Also with the PER the Feds just got, I'd be happy with a SoQob/Pach refit that's basically the same thing with a cloak, just so I'd have a raptor as an option.
I would just love to see some T5 raptors. For one I love material 3 and can't use it on any of the endgame raptors atm. Also with the PER the Feds just got, I'd be happy with a SoQob/Pach refit that's basically the same thing with a cloak, just so I'd have a raptor as an option.
I would support that. Also, check the other T5 Raptor threads. There are some good ideas in those as well.
Seem a bit foolish to me that they do not have any c-store tier 5 raptors or any decent PVP ships period on the KDF side.
Count the number of Fed ships in the c-store then count the number of KDF?
Do you see a problem?
If not count them again. And again and so on.
Seriously you think they would at least want our money. Seems odd when greedy companies turn away paying customers.
Feds have more war ships than the KDF and no one thinks that is strange. They even have an escort carrier with a tactical commander? We have nothing like that. Only Tactical commanders are raiders, escorts and the odd destroyer. I don't count the Dyson because I think it is a bit of a joke.
You would think Klingons would have a tactical focus. And do not even get me started about PVP balance. Weak hulls, useless cloaks, and the list goes on.
Just venting. I know absolutely nothing will change.
See my signature. As far as I can remember, there was a line about a C-Store Tier 5 raptor since the moment I first made a signature... And isn't there still a design WIP of a new raptor on the wiki (on the 'future content' page) that dates back to Noah?
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class. Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider. Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Seem a bit foolish to me that they do not have any c-store tier 5 raptors or any decent PVP ships period on the KDF side.
Count the number of Fed ships in the c-store then count the number of KDF?
Do you see a problem?
If not count them again. And again and so on.
Seriously you think they would at least want our money. Seems odd when greedy companies turn away paying customers.
Feds have more war ships than the KDF and no one thinks that is strange. They even have an escort carrier with a tactical commander? We have nothing like that. Only Tactical commanders are raiders, escorts and the odd destroyer. I don't count the Dyson because I think it is a bit of a joke.
You would think Klingons would have a tactical focus. And do not even get me started about PVP balance. Weak hulls, useless cloaks, and the list goes on.
Just venting. I know absolutely nothing will change.
yeah...well...not only will things not change but they'll get worse.
I feel sorry for the players that will finally get bored with Fedplay and come over to the Redside only to find out it's just more of the same but with fewer ships.
Anything resembling faction diversity has been pimped via lockbox.
Shame on you, Cryptic.
(If a Dev wants to fix this sad state, nerf the lockbox versions of consoles).
NO to ARC RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
Alot of us here asked Cryptic for years to add more Tier 5 Raptors especially ones for the C-Store, but what we got so far is nothing and not even a mention at all which made the Raptor type pretty much useless during that period... recently Cpt Geko mention that they gonna add a Tier 5 Raptor in the near future but i would not keep my hopes yp untill i really do see it first on the tribble server or the holodeck.
While the BoP's did got buff'd (if u can really called it that) months ago with a passive Flanking ability and minor hull increase by 10%, the BoP's are still semi-obsolete when compare to Fed/Rom Escorts/Frigate Warbird... while Flanking is good vs PvE target with it full 25% dmg to the enemy ships rear, in PvP the Flanking dmg is nerf to 8.3% dmg to players ships rear which hampered BoP pverall effectiveness in PvP along having 1 less weapon Slot (4/2 oppose to Escorts 4/3 or 5/2 setups). having less tactical consoles (most T4 BoP have 3 tac, 2 BoP have 4 Tacs oppse to all escorts having 4 with some having 5), and having the same Impulse Mod. (0.20 same to most all escorts types, JHAS, Xindi Escort, Resian Escort are faster) which will prevent BoP's overall to outrun to setup for a flanking attack with inferior tactical sets to Escorts, while the BoP's only real advantage is the turn rate which it to is neglected by the advent of Fleet Eng Consoles and Uni Consoles that increases turn rate to be more on par if not turn better than BoP's depending on the type of escort. Thus overall what i put above why BoP's are still obsolete in PvP thus the BoP's needs a real buff which is a slight Impulse Mod increase for the BoP's and lift the rescrictions of the Flanking nerf vs Players in PvP which is currectly is set at 8.3% dmg... so far BoP's that does do well in PvP are the ones flown by Experience Players using the element of surprise that can take out an enemy very quikly, but currently as it stands BoP in a prolong fight cannot outfight, out-D and outrun against a Fed Escort/Romulan Frigate Warbird with the same elite gear with an equally exprience pilot.
KDF Battle Cruisers and 1 Orion Flight-Deck Cruiser are the only really good ships of the KDF in terms of stats.
more KDF Alien-Align Ships such as the unplayable NPC Orion, Nausicaan, Gorn, etc. ships needs to be converted to be playable and to be bought from the C-Store/Fleet Stores for the KDF side.
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And of all things KDF, the Escort line (Raptors, Destroyers) is by far the most neglected and worst aspect of the entire faction.
The BOPs have lost out to Power Creep but offer a style of play you'll never find anywhere.
The Carriers rock with the Vo'Quv holding things down since this game went live years ago.
If you like Cruiser play, our Battlecruisers and Flight Deck Cruisers are solid and perform well.
But the Raptors and Destroyers? Man... Ugh... Jeez. The Guramba is cool but has lost out to Power Creep and it's a Dead-End-Purchase. There is no Fleet Guramba to move into despite us begging for it since the fleet ship system came out. Gurambas used to be flown by a lot of KDF players, even in PVP. Not anymore. The rest of the Raptors and Destroyers have fared far worse than the Guramba.
Okay, well, maybe Raptors & Destroyers are tied for worst alongside our Uniform options.
The Pegh'qu is IMO the only really solid endgame Raptor, with a potent combination of flexible BOff seating, battle cloak and a genuinely useful unique console (+30 ACC is nothing to sniff at...). You can even get a fleet variant. Unfortunately, the only way to get one is an LTS.
The irony is that the ships which best fit the Raptor "concept" - fast but fragile flying guns - in both looks and gameplay are the Andorian escorts. Which is why I'm currently building up a Fed-Klingon captain and crew to fly one; if you can't beat 'em, join 'em .
Raptors need their own thing. Something which other tactical ship types don't have.
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I agree. Give them sensor analysis and both that and the cloak will set them apart from the escort line.
And where did you hear this? Dont get hopes high unless there is a source of information......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYsw_GYP8Ok <--the place that I have heard it
If you don't have 3 hours...here's the 3:44 version...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IivGqwQvdCI
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I can only hope! Besides the fleet versions of said ships.... 5 tac console guramba, please.
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I would support that. Also, check the other T5 Raptor threads. There are some good ideas in those as well.
See my signature. As far as I can remember, there was a line about a C-Store Tier 5 raptor since the moment I first made a signature... And isn't there still a design WIP of a new raptor on the wiki (on the 'future content' page) that dates back to Noah?
KDF needs 5 forward weapon slots ships, KDF needs 5 tac console ships.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
yeah...well...not only will things not change but they'll get worse.
I feel sorry for the players that will finally get bored with Fedplay and come over to the Redside only to find out it's just more of the same but with fewer ships.
Anything resembling faction diversity has been pimped via lockbox.
Shame on you, Cryptic.
(If a Dev wants to fix this sad state, nerf the lockbox versions of consoles).
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
While the BoP's did got buff'd (if u can really called it that) months ago with a passive Flanking ability and minor hull increase by 10%, the BoP's are still semi-obsolete when compare to Fed/Rom Escorts/Frigate Warbird... while Flanking is good vs PvE target with it full 25% dmg to the enemy ships rear, in PvP the Flanking dmg is nerf to 8.3% dmg to players ships rear which hampered BoP pverall effectiveness in PvP along having 1 less weapon Slot (4/2 oppose to Escorts 4/3 or 5/2 setups). having less tactical consoles (most T4 BoP have 3 tac, 2 BoP have 4 Tacs oppse to all escorts having 4 with some having 5), and having the same Impulse Mod. (0.20 same to most all escorts types, JHAS, Xindi Escort, Resian Escort are faster) which will prevent BoP's overall to outrun to setup for a flanking attack with inferior tactical sets to Escorts, while the BoP's only real advantage is the turn rate which it to is neglected by the advent of Fleet Eng Consoles and Uni Consoles that increases turn rate to be more on par if not turn better than BoP's depending on the type of escort. Thus overall what i put above why BoP's are still obsolete in PvP thus the BoP's needs a real buff which is a slight Impulse Mod increase for the BoP's and lift the rescrictions of the Flanking nerf vs Players in PvP which is currectly is set at 8.3% dmg... so far BoP's that does do well in PvP are the ones flown by Experience Players using the element of surprise that can take out an enemy very quikly, but currently as it stands BoP in a prolong fight cannot outfight, out-D and outrun against a Fed Escort/Romulan Frigate Warbird with the same elite gear with an equally exprience pilot.
KDF Battle Cruisers and 1 Orion Flight-Deck Cruiser are the only really good ships of the KDF in terms of stats.
more KDF Alien-Align Ships such as the unplayable NPC Orion, Nausicaan, Gorn, etc. ships needs to be converted to be playable and to be bought from the C-Store/Fleet Stores for the KDF side.
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