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Fer'jai Frigattes

woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
edited July 2014 in Klingon Discussion
So, after a long time I though I'll try them again instead of swarmers. But the most important point why I switched is still there: Is it intended that they have twice the CD of any other pet? My Swarmers, my Mesh Weavers, my Rom Drones, all have a CD of around 20sec, give or take a bit depending on Aux. Only the Ferjai are clearly over 40sec.

So is it a bug, is it intended or where they forgotten when the CD-Timers were homogenised?

It clearly cant be because they are OP, since even Swarmer give them a run for their money dps-wise (Hangar vs. Hangar)...
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Not sure why, but yes, KDF Frigates have longer cooldowns than non-faction Frigates.

    I don't think it's intended. I believe this is all due to the "Moar Power Creep Plan" by Cryptic over the years and they forgot what balance means, and gave the non-faction Frigates short cooldowns.
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I would like to see a playable T1 Fer'jai Frigate.
  • torvinecho25torvinecho25 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Hanger vs Hanger, Fer'Jai will blow anything else out of the water...lol

    The only pets in the game that can hold the Fer'Jais (damage wise) are Scorpions, Mesh Weavers, and Drone Ships. Everything else its just overshadowed by how much firepower those Fer'Jai have.
  • ovinspaceovinspace Member Posts: 310
    edited July 2014
    All frigates have a longer CD than fighters, but their durability gives them a better chance of achieving stars.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    torvinecho25 wrote: »
    The only pets in the game that can hold the Fer'Jais (damage wise) are Scorpions, Mesh Weavers, and Drone Ships. Everything else its just overshadowed by how much firepower those Fer'Jai have.

    You forgot JHAS and swarmers. And the firepower on Ferjai are pretty much limited with luck. If you are lucky and their torps and mines hit (or have time to hit) they are good, but if they dont hit, well, turrets arent number one in dmg^^

    ovinspace wrote: »
    All frigates have a longer CD than fighters, but their durability gives them a better chance of achieving stars.

    I wouldnt count 0-2sec more (Drones, Mesh weaver are around 20sec CD and are Frigattes, swarmers/scorpions have same CD) really more. The only one needing far more time to respawn are Ferjai. I think it was with S8 or shortly before, when they homogenized the CDs of all Hangarpets, except Ferjai.

    The longer CD for Frigattes was before the...change (Revamp maybe, they changed a bit the UI and AI too).
    They seem to simply have forgotten them, since even with 5 aux (a2b) a drone as a mere 27 sec respawn, a mesh weaver on 100 has 20sec (give or take a sec), but Ferjai with 100 aux get 40sec CDs. Thats just stupid.
  • ovinspaceovinspace Member Posts: 310
    edited July 2014
    Just did a test with my vo'quv at aux 61 frigate bop cd:46( 37 aux 124), fighter cd - 23( 19 if aux 124)

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Carrier_Pets suggests that not many things are treated as frigates, I think runabouts are, never had a scimi so no idea about that drone.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    ovinspace wrote: »
    Just did a test with my vo'quv at aux 61 frigate bop cd:46( 37 aux 124), fighter cd - 23( 19 if aux 124)

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Carrier_Pets suggests that not many things are treated as frigates, I think runabouts are, never had a scimi so no idea about that drone.

    Carrier pets are roughly split into three categories:

    Fighters: Few abilities in general, weakest in shields and hull. But generally are all about numbers over anything else.

    Runabouts: Kind of take up their own category mostly. More durable than fighter type pets, but not as tough or have as many abilities as frigates.

    Frigates: You can launch a lot fewer of them at a time, but have many more abilities and weapons than any other type of pet.
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  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    torvinecho25 wrote: »
    Hanger vs Hanger, Fer'Jai will blow anything else out of the water...lol

    The only pets in the game that can hold the Fer'Jais (damage wise) are Scorpions, Mesh Weavers, and Drone Ships. Everything else its just overshadowed by how much firepower those Fer'Jai have.

    Can I get some Fer'Jai where you got yours? Because mine routinely come in behind perigrine/klingon fighters in DPS.

    Yeah, they look pretty, and its fun when they tric something, but for actually killing things, almost any other pet does better for me.
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  • arilouskiffarilouskiff Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    On my ships, fighters are about 15 sec. cooldown, shuttlers something like 25, and the BoP's 40 secs. I always figured that was standard? (you also launch 3 fighters, 2 shuttles and one BoP pe launch)
  • torvinecho25torvinecho25 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    woodwhity wrote: »
    You forgot JHAS and swarmers. And the firepower on Ferjai are pretty much limited with luck. If you are lucky and their torps and mines hit (or have time to hit) they are good, but if they dont hit, well, turrets arent number one in dmg^^



    I did not. Both JHAS and Swarmers routinely fall behind Fer'Jai in terms of raw numbers (at least for me, apparently). Believe it or not, I've actually found JHAS to do the least damage of every frigate in the game, and somewhat regret spending the EC to get them.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Did you try them 1Hangar vs 1Hangar (Ferjai vs. Swarmers) in an STF?
  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Does seem like some kind of bug... Though Fer'jai are very tough compared to other Frigates even.

    As for how good they are... eh... They are pretty solid and long lasting but they are not as deadly as Elite Scorps or even S'kuls.
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