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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Well, makes a bit sense, doesnt it. When firing on everything in sight, you'll hit it, but not necessarily where you want to hit it. Its a shame it makes sense, but only because its broken ^^
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    woodwhity wrote: »
    Well, makes a bit sense, doesnt it. When firing on everything in sight, you'll hit it, but not necessarily where you want to hit it. Its a shame it makes sense, but only because its broken ^^

    But that's the thing - you can still miss - the 100% to-hit and ignoring Accuracy Overflow only comes about because you've got a 100% chance to-hit the target for acquisition - not to do any damage.

    There are four targets in front of you, you have no target selected - triggering FAW means that two targets will be selected. Those two targets are selected (100% chance to-hit the target as the selected target). The shots are fired. They all miss.

    Sure, they're likely to hit - but they can miss if the target is moving, etc, etc, etc.

    It's literally just the targeting component that is autohit. It picks X as Target A, there's 100% chance that X will be Target A because X was picked to be Target A. Thus, Accuracy Overflow cannot come into play because there was the autohit component.

    Believe it's tied into the FX angle...can't remember - don't feel like hunting down the posts from the devs talking about it, meh...just wish they'd fix it.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Believe it's tied into the FX angle...can't remember - don't feel like hunting down the posts from the devs talking about it, meh...just wish they'd fix it.


    Well, seeing as one Dev said it would be magic too him I doubt it will be fixed soon, if ever.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    woodwhity wrote: »
    Well, seeing as one Dev said it would be magic too him I doubt it will be fixed soon, if ever.

    It's one of the reasons I wish they'd split FAW and provide all three directed attacks with three possible special attacks.

    CRF: +RoF/+Dmg
    CSV: +Targets/+Dmg

    HY: +Dmg/+Dmg
    TS: +Targets/+Dmg

    BO: +Dmg/+Dmg
    FAW: +RoF/+Targets/+Dmg

    I'd like a +Dmg/+Dmg for Cannons, +RoF/+Dmg for Torps, and FAW to be split into a +RoF/+Dmg and +Targets/+Dmg.

    Then one could do a Beam Rapid Fire of sorts with DBBs while not losing out on Accuracy Overflow.
  • sirokksirokk Member Posts: 990 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I.S.S. YOUKIDDINGRIGHT

    People keep asking me what i could do with a starcruiser/mirror starcruiser. so i threw the Green Knight build onto it and did a quick ISE.

    22.5k DPS without getting a GDF. It should hit 25-27k with a good GDF.

    Your all welcome. :cool:

    Hi, couldn't get to the log file. Did Dropbox drop the file? :)

    So are there other things to consider to make this build work, like special DOffs?

    I normally run Mk XI [acc]x2 Plasma beams and am looking to upgrade a bit. I see Romplas MkXII CrtDx2 VR's in the build, between Romulan Plasma and Fleet Plasma which are worth going for?
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Galaxy-R, Jena. Galaxy-R.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Galaxy-R, Jena. Galaxy-R.

    There can be no proof offered of the Gal-R being the least bit viable...the forums won't stand for it! ;)
  • sarcasmdetectorsarcasmdetector Member Posts: 1,176 Media Corps
    edited July 2014
    There can be no proof offered of the Gal-R being the least bit viable...the forums won't stand for it! ;)

    hmmm... tempting *evil smile*
  • sarcasmdetectorsarcasmdetector Member Posts: 1,176 Media Corps
    edited July 2014
    There can be no proof offered of the Gal-R being the least bit viable...the forums won't stand for it! ;)

    pfffft, i messed up the first run with the Gal-R and only got 18k DPS. it was a first run/shakedown so hopefully better results on the 2nd run.
  • artfulmerkageartfulmerkage Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Not bad, not bad.
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  • sarcasmdetectorsarcasmdetector Member Posts: 1,176 Media Corps
    edited July 2014
    pfffft, i messed up the first run with the Gal-R and only got 18k DPS. it was a first run/shakedown so hopefully better results on the 2nd run.

    2nd run... was at 28k then i popped. ended the run at 23k DPS.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    pfffft, i messed up the first run with the Gal-R and only got 18k DPS. it was a first run/shakedown so hopefully better results on the 2nd run.
    2nd run... was at 28k then i popped. ended the run at 23k DPS.

    No, no...it's a Gal-R...it's supposed to be 1.8k, 2.8k, then 2.3k. All the threads say so! :P
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    ACC overflow is broken for CSV and TS also.
    Really, on CSV, too? TS isn't really "broken", since Torp Spread is an auto-hit attack, and therefore does not use accuracy in any way, but CSV also?

    Question: Given that this ship carries no attack pattern, isn't it entirely dependent on parasiting off the rest of the group and cannot do much on its own?
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  • sarcasmdetectorsarcasmdetector Member Posts: 1,176 Media Corps
    edited July 2014
    Really, on CSV, too? TS isn't really "broken", since Torp Spread is an auto-hit attack, and therefore does not use accuracy in any way, but CSV also?

    Question: Given that this ship carries no attack pattern, isn't it entirely dependent on parasiting off the rest of the group and cannot do much on its own?

    if you fly a 20k ship in an ISE with a Recluse; the 5x APB3 from the Recluse will net you 2.5-3k extra DPS. it's a lot less if you do less than 20k DPS. if you do less than 10k DPS you won't even notice the difference between a run with a Recluse and a run without.

    so how much do you think you'd get from 1 copy of APB1?
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    so how much do you think you'd get from 1 copy of APB1?

    29.7% increase in damage while up - with standard 9 in SAP.

    35.3% with 9 SAP, 3x Inspirational, and Rom Engines.
  • lorngramlorngram Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Sooo, runing with 2 would be -> 59,4 and 70,6, with 3 -> 89,1 and 105,9 and so forth? Or do dimishing returns play there role here as well?

    Sorry for asking, just wanted claryfication. I know You probablly answered this more than fiew times on this forums.

    For quite some time I noticed that runs with multiple APB yeld a much higher dps for everyone in the team than runs with no APB or with people that use APO. That is why I am always so suprised that most people use APO over APB or even run without any AP.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    lorngram wrote: »
    That is why I am always so suprised that most people use APO over APB or even run without any AP.


    Its the same why dmg x3-weapons bring a lot of money, its more obvious what they do and so ppl think they are good. APO also features a long list of buffs, while APB does only one thing. So you can easily think, APO is far superior, when in fact, its not regarding dps.
  • ryakidrysryakidrys Member Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    People keep asking me what i could do with a starcruiser/mirror starcruiser.

    My fleetmates and I ran Infected normal with all mirandas once. It was tough, but we completed it and got the bonus. We decided that Infected elite might be too much. I understand there are low-level PVP groups so maybe this isn't totally, laughably wacko......

    What DPS could you get in a miranda? How about a constitution cruiser?
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