Just did "Sphere of Influence" with my Rom, and I noticed that we are only offered an Obelisk Subspace Rift Warp Core, but no singularity warp core. Romulans can't even get 2 pieces of the set for the antiproton bonus. Even the Solanae has a singularity core for the Roms, and seeing how we wouldn't have the Obelisk carrier with out the New Romulus gate, I think we should get the option of choosing a Obelisk Subspace Rift Singularity Warp Core at the end of the mission.
Quite simply the 'Core" should never have been made useable in other ships! It's the Warp Core from the Ancient Obelisk Carrier, so it should be unique to that ship only!
What they should have done is add an Impulse Engine, a Deflector Dish or a Console to put with the Anti-Proton Weapon Set ...
The Obelisk uses a warp core, not a singularity core. Why oh why would a singularity core, something the carrier would have absolutely no use for, be a reward?
As for the AP bonus, what, isn't the huge spike you get when you decloak enough? Or would you prefer an "I win" button instead? That would be easier for you.
The Obelisk uses a warp core, not a singularity core. Why oh why would a singularity core, something the carrier would have absolutely no use for, be a reward?
As for the AP bonus, what, isn't the huge spike you get when you decloak enough? Or would you prefer an "I win" button instead? That would be easier for you.
maybe because we don't wanna just fly a carrier there is a thing for romulans called ROM SHIPS like the Ar'Kif tactical carrier warbird i runn ap weapons on it with the 360 ap beam do i have a ap warp core nnoo would i like one heck yeah so i have to agree there should be a option to chose one.
maybe because we don't wanna just fly a carrier there is a thing for romulans called ROM SHIPS like the Ar'Kif tactical carrier warbird i runn ap weapons on it with the 360 ap beam do i have a ap warp core nnoo would i like one heck yeah so i have to agree there should be a option to chose one.
The mission is based around getting items that are associated with the Obelisk. Not for use only on the Obelisk but also other ships that use simpatico technology. You're saying that whoever made the Obelisk should also have designed a singularity version, something they had no need for, just for you. Not having an Obelisk singularity core makes PERFECT sense.
Or maybe it's recognised that Romulan ships don't need that extra 10% damage boost in addition to of all the other huge boosts they receive when they decloak. No ship can spike like a Romulan ship. They don't need any extra. As I said, would you prefer just to have an "I win" button?
[...] whoever made the Obelisk should also have designed a singularity version, [...]
No, but Romulan engineers should be smart enough to adapt its subspace-rift-tech to their singularity warpcores, giving RR players the choice of an Obelisk-inspired singularity core as mission reward.
The mission is based around getting items that are associated with the Obelisk. Not for use only on the Obelisk but also other ships that use simpatico technology. You're saying that whoever made the Obelisk should also have designed a singularity version, something they had no need for, just for you. Not having an Obelisk singularity core makes PERFECT sense.
Actually it makes no sense whatsoever, that a race so technologically advanced, that they can create something like the Dyson Sphere, would have a Warp Core in one of their ships, so pathetically "low tech" as to be compatible with UFP and KDF Starships. It would most likely have neither a Matter/Anti-Matter Warp Core or a Singularity Warp Core ...
Ideally, It probably should have a unique type of Warp Core, that no one in the Alpha, Gamma or Delta Quadrants is capable of reverse engineering ... Call it a "Quantum Omega Warp Core" or something, and make it universal.
Or maybe it's recognized that Romulan ships don't need that extra 10% damage boost in addition to of all the other huge boosts they receive when they decloak. No ship can spike like a Romulan ship. They don't need any extra. As I said, would you prefer just to have an "I win" button?
Why do people insist on making this sweeping statement? It's total Bovine DooDoo!!!
All ships are capable of either being good or bad, It is NOT just Romulan Ships that are capable of Alpha Striking, nor are Romulan Ships the only ones to get Flanking Bonuses and De-cloaking Bonuses.
As for the AP bonus, what, isn't the huge spike you get when you decloak enough? Or would you prefer an "I win" button instead? That would be easier for you.
Didn't think of that. From what I have read on the forums, Romulans are OP, just not the way I play. I am not a very good player, and forget most of the time to cloak.
The Obelisk set was meant for the Obelisk Carrier. The M/AM warp core and omnibeam just isn't bound to only the Carrier because they're mission rewards. It's unreasonable to want them to work on more ships than that.
Actually it makes no sense whatsoever, that a race so technologically advanced, that they can create something like the Dyson Sphere, would have a Warp Core in one of their ships, so pathetically "low tech" as to be compatible with UFP and KDF Starships. It would most likely have neither a Matter/Anti-Matter Warp Core or a Singularity Warp Core ...
Ideally, It probably should have a unique type of Warp Core, that no one in the Alpha, Gamma or Delta Quadrants is capable of reverse engineering ... Call it a "Quantum Omega Warp Core" or something, and make it universal.
I see what you're saying, but then again maybe the warp core and the singularity core are just space versions of the wheel; designs that haven't needed to change because of the inherent perfection of the design. Besides making wheels out of different things that design hasn't changed in a loooong time.
Why do people insist on making this sweeping statement? It's total Bovine DooDoo!!!
All ships are capable of either being good or bad, It is NOT just Romulan Ships that are capable of Alpha Striking, nor are Romulan Ships the only ones to get Flanking Bonuses and De-cloaking Bonuses.
You're right that they're not the only race that gets bonuses, however they're the only race that can obtain a full crew with decloak alpha bonuses. They also are the only ones that get captain traits supporting that as well.
You're right in saying that it's a sweeping statement, but just because a comment is sweeping doesn't make it incorrect.
The Obelisk set was meant for the Obelisk Carrier. The M/AM warp core and omnibeam just isn't bound to only the Carrier because they're mission rewards. It's unreasonable to want them to work on more ships than that.
JMHO ^
The line of reasoning suggests they should be incompatible with any ship that is not the Obelisk at all. Where as the thing that should have been done. (and can still be retroactively put in.) is a choice for the AMR version or a Singularity version. No new powers singularity wise, just is the AP core that will fit in a warbird.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
The line of reasoning suggests they should be incompatible with any ship that is not the Obelisk at all. Where as the thing that should have been done. (and can still be retroactively put in.) is a choice for the AMR version or a Singularity version. No new powers singularity wise, just is the AP core that will fit in a warbird.
I vote no.
Also, seeing as it's Cryptic's trend to introduce new things and not change existing things, I think it we won't see a singularity version for at least a few years. By which time the power creep would have rendered them obsolete.
The line of reasoning suggests they should be incompatible with any ship that is not the Obelisk at all. Where as the thing that should have been done. (and can still be retroactively put in.) is a choice for the AMR version or a Singularity version. No new powers singularity wise, just is the AP core that will fit in a warbird.
And all the Warbird consoles should be usable on non-Warbirds, right?
The line of reasoning suggests they should be incompatible with any ship that is not the Obelisk at all.
I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm saying that those items were made for the Obelisk Carrier, but we were allowed two of the items to equip to other ships, and we should be lucky to even be able to do that.
And all the Warbird consoles should be usable on non-Warbirds, right?
This is the perfect counter to why the Obelisk core should NOT be made in to a singularity.
If the Obelisk core DOES get made in to a singularity then I'll be demanding that all of the warbird consoles can be fitted on all Fed and Klink ships. Why?
Because the Romulans have the biggest selection of Romulan only gear in the game. There has to be some gear that is non-Romulan.
This is the perfect counter to why the Obelisk core should NOT be made in to a singularity.
Not really perfect. Not completely wrong, but not perfect.
If the Obelisk core DOES get made in to a singularity then I'll be demanding that all of the warbird consoles can be fitted on all Fed and Klink ships. Why?
Because the Romulans have the biggest selection of Romulan only gear in the game. There has to be some gear that is non-Romulan.
The Solanae aren't a playable species. The core isn't from something you get in the C-store or Lobi Store -- nor is it from some kind of pre-order Solanae 'pack', it's a mission reward. Logically, if something is a mission reward for all 3 factions -- then retroactively there should be Singularity Core to match the Warp Core just like every other mission that offers a warp core as an end-of-mission reward.
You don't get any of the Romulan ship consoles from a mission reward. You don't get the option of singularity core without an equal option of a warp core for mission rewards.
I want my Tal Shiar Adapted Warp Core to come in Singularity flavor too, but I'm not going to demand I be able to purchase a Singularity equivelant from it from the dilithium store. I simply recognize that it's a lockbox/lobi ship with its own special set-up.
However, in terms of the Obilesk Warp Core -- it is available to all, freely, without a single dime (or piece of dilithium) needing be spent. But only usable for 2 of the 3 factions.
I want my Tal Shiar Adapted Warp Core to come in Singularity flavor too, but I'm not going to demand I be able to purchase a Singularity equivelant from it from the dilithium store. I simply recognize that it's a lockbox/lobi ship with its own special set-up.
However, in terms of the Obilesk Warp Core -- it is available to all, freely, without a single dime (or piece of dilithium) needing be spent. But only usable for 2 of the 3 factions.
You can't say the same for the Warbird consoles.
The Obelisk warp core is also part of a special set up. A set up that requires you to purchase a lobi ship to fully utilise it. The pieces were designed to function in a particular way, which they do.
Also, do you think that Cryptic just "forgot" to make it a singularity core? Especially considering how important a money maker the playable Romulans have been? no, you can be sure that there is a reason there isn't a singularity version.
All of this is irrelevant, anyway. Giving OP ships more offensive power is ridiculous, I'm pretty sure Cryptic is aware of this and all the complaining in the world isn't going to change the fact that the Obelisk core is working as intended.
Not really perfect. Not completely wrong, but not perfect.
The Solanae aren't a playable species. The core isn't from something you get in the C-store or Lobi Store -- nor is it from some kind of pre-order Solanae 'pack', it's a mission reward. Logically, if something is a mission reward for all 3 factions -- then retroactively there should be Singularity Core to match the Warp Core just like every other mission that offers a warp core as an end-of-mission reward.
You don't get any of the Romulan ship consoles from a mission reward. You don't get the option of singularity core without an equal option of a warp core for mission rewards.
I want my Tal Shiar Adapted Warp Core to come in Singularity flavor too, but I'm not going to demand I be able to purchase a Singularity equivelant from it from the dilithium store. I simply recognize that it's a lockbox/lobi ship with its own special set-up.
However, in terms of the Obilesk Warp Core -- it is available to all, freely, without a single dime (or piece of dilithium) needing be spent. But only usable for 2 of the 3 factions.
You can't say the same for the Warbird consoles.
<--- using obilesk warp core on his kdf rom.
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Heh/Meh, yeah - I've forgotten on a couple of occasions and been like...doh!
What they should have done is add an Impulse Engine, a Deflector Dish or a Console to put with the Anti-Proton Weapon Set ...
As for the AP bonus, what, isn't the huge spike you get when you decloak enough? Or would you prefer an "I win" button instead? That would be easier for you.
maybe because we don't wanna just fly a carrier there is a thing for romulans called ROM SHIPS like the Ar'Kif tactical carrier warbird i runn ap weapons on it with the 360 ap beam do i have a ap warp core nnoo would i like one heck yeah so i have to agree there should be a option to chose one.
Or the 2p antiproton boost shouldve been on a more universal set.
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
Ap is better
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
The mission is based around getting items that are associated with the Obelisk. Not for use only on the Obelisk but also other ships that use simpatico technology. You're saying that whoever made the Obelisk should also have designed a singularity version, something they had no need for, just for you. Not having an Obelisk singularity core makes PERFECT sense.
Or maybe it's recognised that Romulan ships don't need that extra 10% damage boost in addition to of all the other huge boosts they receive when they decloak. No ship can spike like a Romulan ship. They don't need any extra. As I said, would you prefer just to have an "I win" button?
Actually it makes no sense whatsoever, that a race so technologically advanced, that they can create something like the Dyson Sphere, would have a Warp Core in one of their ships, so pathetically "low tech" as to be compatible with UFP and KDF Starships. It would most likely have neither a Matter/Anti-Matter Warp Core or a Singularity Warp Core ...
Ideally, It probably should have a unique type of Warp Core, that no one in the Alpha, Gamma or Delta Quadrants is capable of reverse engineering ... Call it a "Quantum Omega Warp Core" or something, and make it universal.
Why do people insist on making this sweeping statement? It's total Bovine DooDoo!!!
All ships are capable of either being good or bad, It is NOT just Romulan Ships that are capable of Alpha Striking, nor are Romulan Ships the only ones to get Flanking Bonuses and De-cloaking Bonuses.
Didn't think of that. From what I have read on the forums, Romulans are OP, just not the way I play. I am not a very good player, and forget most of the time to cloak.
JMHO ^
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I see what you're saying, but then again maybe the warp core and the singularity core are just space versions of the wheel; designs that haven't needed to change because of the inherent perfection of the design. Besides making wheels out of different things that design hasn't changed in a loooong time.
You're right that they're not the only race that gets bonuses, however they're the only race that can obtain a full crew with decloak alpha bonuses. They also are the only ones that get captain traits supporting that as well.
You're right in saying that it's a sweeping statement, but just because a comment is sweeping doesn't make it incorrect.
The line of reasoning suggests they should be incompatible with any ship that is not the Obelisk at all. Where as the thing that should have been done. (and can still be retroactively put in.) is a choice for the AMR version or a Singularity version. No new powers singularity wise, just is the AP core that will fit in a warbird.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
I vote no.
Also, seeing as it's Cryptic's trend to introduce new things and not change existing things, I think it we won't see a singularity version for at least a few years. By which time the power creep would have rendered them obsolete.
And all the Warbird consoles should be usable on non-Warbirds, right?
Maybe because it's true?
It's so True, that like Accuracy...it even involves some True Overflow for extra CrtH and CrtD on how True it is!
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This is the perfect counter to why the Obelisk core should NOT be made in to a singularity.
If the Obelisk core DOES get made in to a singularity then I'll be demanding that all of the warbird consoles can be fitted on all Fed and Klink ships. Why?
Because the Romulans have the biggest selection of Romulan only gear in the game. There has to be some gear that is non-Romulan.
Not really perfect. Not completely wrong, but not perfect.
The Solanae aren't a playable species. The core isn't from something you get in the C-store or Lobi Store -- nor is it from some kind of pre-order Solanae 'pack', it's a mission reward. Logically, if something is a mission reward for all 3 factions -- then retroactively there should be Singularity Core to match the Warp Core just like every other mission that offers a warp core as an end-of-mission reward.
You don't get any of the Romulan ship consoles from a mission reward. You don't get the option of singularity core without an equal option of a warp core for mission rewards.
I want my Tal Shiar Adapted Warp Core to come in Singularity flavor too, but I'm not going to demand I be able to purchase a Singularity equivelant from it from the dilithium store. I simply recognize that it's a lockbox/lobi ship with its own special set-up.
However, in terms of the Obilesk Warp Core -- it is available to all, freely, without a single dime (or piece of dilithium) needing be spent. But only usable for 2 of the 3 factions.
You can't say the same for the Warbird consoles.
The Obelisk warp core is also part of a special set up. A set up that requires you to purchase a lobi ship to fully utilise it. The pieces were designed to function in a particular way, which they do.
Also, do you think that Cryptic just "forgot" to make it a singularity core? Especially considering how important a money maker the playable Romulans have been? no, you can be sure that there is a reason there isn't a singularity version.
All of this is irrelevant, anyway. Giving OP ships more offensive power is ridiculous, I'm pretty sure Cryptic is aware of this and all the complaining in the world isn't going to change the fact that the Obelisk core is working as intended.
<--- using obilesk warp core on his kdf rom.
if I stop posting it doesn't make you right it. just means I don't have enough rum to continue interacting with you.